2024 US Election #2

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I wasn’t aware of that. I’ve just googled to see if I could find what you’re referring to and couldn’t (there’s a lot of Trump stuff to wade through 😂). Do you have a link at all please?


Here’s one example. Trump used to say that success would be his revenge, but at some point the rhetoric changed.
 
This is a long podcast to listen to but it does cover some of the reasons for the Harris economy being better. I was neutral on Harris or Trump being better for the economy so I voted for a third candidate anyway but listening to this on Wednesday 7th over lunch at work was depressing.

 
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Politico has reported on it most recently. Apparently, Politico is described as ‘centrist’. No such thing as unbiased media in any situation of course. But I’m also sick of people screaming fake news.

Trump is nothing if not unpredictable but I tend to listen to what Americans have to say about this sort of thing and some of them say they feel they are being prepared for this to be normal president behaviour in the future. Perhaps in the future terms as well. Gentlemanly presidents in America have permanently given way to disrupters.
 
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Dr Sam Harris back in 2016 on Making Sense saying he'd made some analogy on Trump on the JRE so I thought Rogan wasn't necessarily pro Trump?
Rogan is like many people today - thought of themselves as liberal, progressive left-of centre. But as the Left has moved further towards the Far Left and progressivism actually became regressive (eg anti man, anti white people, anti-semitic, anti free speech, anti meritocracy etc etc) then people like Joe no longer identify as Left - and will vote for people like Trump because they oppose far leftist ideas
 
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Rogan is like many people today - thought of themselves as liberal, progressive left-of centre. But as the Left has moved further towards the Far Left and progressivism actually became regressive (eg anti man, anti white people, anti-semitic, anti free speech, anti meritocracy etc etc) then people like Joe no longer identify as Left - and will vote for people like Trump because they oppose far leftist ideas
So the left is right and the right is left?
 
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Treating people with respect is not ‘leftist’. I’m confused…. How is anti-white people a thing? For example, if you (or I) go for a job you’ll never not get it because you’re white.
 
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Rogan is like many people today - thought of themselves as liberal, progressive left-of centre. But as the Left has moved further towards the Far Left and progressivism actually became regressive (eg anti man, anti white people, anti-semitic, anti free speech, anti meritocracy etc etc) then people like Joe no longer identify as Left - and will vote for people like Trump because they oppose far leftist ideas
This is very well put. And the left now seems to think Rogan is far-right and that they (the left) need their own Rogan. But of course they HAD their own Rogan and his name was Rogan!
 
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Treating people with respect is not ‘leftist’.
Typical motte and bailey response




I’m confused…. How is anti-white people a thing? For example, if you (or I) go for a job you’ll never not get it because you’re white.
Actually, there's plenty of evidence to suggest that isn't true.

This is just one recent example of discrimination against white men https://news.sky.com/story/royal-ai...bid-to-boost-diversity-inquiry-finds-12911888


It's the same story in America with big corporations too - that's what Diversity Equity and Inclusion means = "we need to hire more women and people of colour, even if that means actively discriminating against white men"



You should also look up what ideas like "white privilege" and "white fragility" say about white people - all white people are inherently racist (which is itself a racist idea - except modern left wing "antiracism" has redefined racism to mean something only white people can do/be (which again is itself a racist idea!)
 
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It funny how white men (and their handmaids) tend to automatically assume they are the best person for a job and it must be discrimination if they don’t get it
 
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It funny how white men (and their handmaids) tend to automatically assume they are the best person for a job and it must be discrimination if they don’t get it
How do you know they automatically assume they are the best person for the job and it must be discrimination if they don’t get it? Can you see inside all of their minds?
 
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It funny how white men (and their handmaids) tend to automatically assume they are the best person for a job and it must be discrimination if they don’t get it
Au contraire - I assume it's discrimination when enquiries confirm it is discrimination as per the article I posted https://news.sky.com/story/royal-ai...bid-to-boost-diversity-inquiry-finds-12911888


"The Royal Air Force unlawfully discriminated against white men in a recruitment drive aimed at boosting diversity, an official inquiry has found.

Air Chief Marshal Sir Richard Knighton, the new head of the RAF, said he "apologised unreservedly" to all those affected, including the former head of recruitment who was forced to resign rather than implement an order she believed - correctly - to breach equality legislation.


Despite the damning findings, the chief of the air staff said that none of the RAF's senior leadership, including his predecessor Air Chief Marshal Sir Mike Wigston, on whose watch this happened, would face any kind of sanction.

Instead, he blamed the debacle on legal advice that incorrectly said a push in 2020 and 2021 to fast-track ethnic minority and female recruits into training slots was positive action - which is a legal way to improve diversity - when it was actually positive discrimination, which is unlawful."


If it doesn't happen then why is there an official term for it "positive discrimination"?



Why does one of the best selling books on "antiracism" say that the only way to fix past discrimination is to discriminate in the present and the future?

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“The only remedy to racist discrimination is antiracist discrimination. The only remedy to past discrimination is present discrimination. The only remedy to present discrimination is future discrimination. As President Lyndon B. Johnson said in 1965, “You do not take a person who, for years, has been hobbled by chains and liberate him, bring him up to the starting line of a race and then say, ‘You are free to compete with all the others,’ and still justly believe that you have been completely fair.” As U.S. Supreme Court Justice Harry Blackmun wrote in 1978, “In order to get beyond racism, we must first take account of race. There is no other way. And in order to treat some persons equally, we must treat them differently.”

― Ibram X. Kendi, How to Be an Antiracist "
 
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Who are these people?
The guy with the beard is Matt Walsh - a conservative commentator who works for the Daily Wire and who made the recent documentary "Am I racist" about the "anti racism" industry

The woman is one of the people he interviewed.

 
The guy with the beard is Matt Walsh - a conservative commentator who works for the Daily Wire and who made the recent documentary "Am I racist" about the "anti racism" industry

The woman is one of the people he interviewed.

So Matt Walsh is an example of a 'social justice warrior'?
 
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