Don't try to make his comments more palatable by saying they are just "inappropriate". It's straight up racism however you try to dress it.He makes a lot of inappropriate comments but I want to point out that he has since made comments supporting the Asian American community (referring mostly to East Asians in the U.S. vs. South Asians in the UK) and he also backed the appeal for Students for Fair Admissions, who are against racial discrimination against Asian and white students for college admissions as a result of their skin color (essentially whites and Asians had to score better than everyone else in standardized testing to gain access to the same opportunities). He also signed a bill this year, calling for sanctions against those who abuse the Uighur Muslim community in China.
No doubt he is not a perfect man, but this election isn't about choosing the perfect person. It's about the best possible choice given circumstances.
I think it should be made clearer that someone can be against a certain regime and their actions (what country hasn’t had its share of questionable leadership?) vs. racism/hatred for a group of people. The Chinese people are not to blame for what happened, given they are just living the best way they can under the regime that is there and Trump has clearly stated that Asian Americans shouldn’t be attacked. I do think Trump should be more careful with his choice of words but I think his focus is more so on the policies and actions of the government than the people.I thought he called it the China virus, which is correct as it originated in Wuhan, which is in China!!
Regarding Muslims, Trump is the only president who has highlighted the plight of the 13 million Uyghur Muslims, who have been subjected to the most horrific abuse that includes slave labourer, forced organ harvesting, and re-education camps. Donald Trump is also the only president to stand up to China by clamping down on Chinese owned businesses such as TikTok and We Chat. This is because all Chinese companies are tied to the PRC, and report to them. Additionally, Chinese companies are well known for stealing intellectual property rights of American (and other countries) companies, and then copying and registering them in China. And Trump is the only president to call them out for this. Biden has a very different agenda with the PRC, and wants to cosy up to Xi. !!
As you can see, I have posted a link to the Washington Post poll article. I just need to add that I find the tone of your posts so confrontational and really pissy to those who don’t agree with you. Several other posters have also commented on this. So, with that being said, I’m out of this discussion, and would appreciate if you don’t reply. PeaceIf it’s a fact where is your proof? You’re so quick to point out a lack of links to other people.
I didn't want to resort to this given I think it's more important to focus on people's actions rather than words and on someone's achievements instead of attacking the opposition, but what do you think of Biden saying "poor kids are just as bright as white kids?" If we really want to get into a discussion about awkward racist comments made by these two candidates, we can be here all day.Don't try to make his comments more palatable by saying they are just "inappropriate". It's straight up racism however you try to dress it.
He also refused to rent to black tenants: https://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/28/us/politics/donald-trump-housing-race.html2
How about we go into my points about Trump avoiding renting to black people, proposing a ban on muslims entering the US and calling Coronavirus Kung Flu (so a mixture of actions and words really). Then we can talk about Biden?I didn't want to resort to this given I think it's more important to focus on people's actions rather than words and on someone's achievements instead of attacking the opposition, but what do you think of Biden saying "poor kids are just as bright as white kids?" If we really want to get into a discussion about awkward racist comments made by these two candidates, we can be here all day.
Here is the NY Times, a Dem leaning publication, with proof of this happening:
Joe Biden Says ‘Poor Kids’ Are Just as Bright as ‘White Kids’ (Published 2019)
Mr. Biden was speaking at a town hall hosted by the Asian & Latino Coalition in Des Moines when he made the remark, which he quickly sought to recover from.www.nytimes.com
I agree, it’s the Chinese Communist Party that are responsible for the persecution of the uyghur muslims, and not the Chinese people. Also, it’s not that well known or reported, but the Chinese Government were recently throwing black Africans out of their homes and businesses in China, as the government believed that they were spreading the virus. Trump addressed this, and was outraged, but as I said, it wasn’t really reported on...I think it should be made clearer that someone can be against a certain regime and their actions (what country hasn’t had its share of questionable leadership?) vs. racism/hatred for a group of people. The Chinese people are not to blame for what happened, given they are just living the best way they can under the regime that is there and Trump has clearly stated that Asian Americans shouldn’t be attacked. I do think Trump should be more careful with his choice of words but I think his focus is more so on the policies and actions of the government than the people.
I've already made my point regarding the Muslim community and Kung Flu, and you told me it's straight up racism, while I said it was clearly inappropriate but his actions have somewhat redeemed himself in my eyes by supporting the Asian and Muslim communities through legal channels. We have clearly reached an impasse there so I'm not sure what else you want me to say. I'm afraid I don't know enough about the rest of the things you mentioned to make an informed comment there but the First Step Act that I mentioned in a previous comment is "aimed to lessen the overincarceration of black people and the racially disparate impact of federal criminal justice practices by reducing some mandatory minimum sentences. The Bureau of Prisons was instructed to improve and expand inmate rehabilitation programs and prohibit the shackling of pregnant prisoners" according to the Washington Post.How about we go into my points about Trump avoiding renting to black people, proposing a ban on muslims entering the US and calling Coronavirus Kung Flu (so a mixture of actions and words really). Then we can talk about Biden?
I don't support Biden either, I'm not in the US and I don't have an opinion on him. Proposing a ban on Muslims coming to the US is proposing action, it's not just a gaffe. He did one good thing bringing about the First Step Act legislature (mainly prompted by his advisers), and you seem to imply it absolves him of all past transgressions.I've already made my point regarding the Muslim community and Kung Flu, and you told me it's straight up racism, while I said it was clearly inappropriate but his actions have somewhat redeemed himself in my eyes by supporting the Asian and Muslim communities through legal channels. We have clearly reached an impasse there so I'm not sure what else you want me to say. I'm afraid I don't know enough about the rest of events to make an informed comment there but the First Step Act that I mentioned in a previous comment is "aimed to lessen the overincarceration of black people and the racially disparate impact of federal criminal justice practices by reducing some mandatory minimum sentences. The Bureau of Prisons was instructed to improve and expand inmate rehabilitation programs and prohibit the shackling of pregnant prisoners" according to the Washington Post.
And instead of focusing on the gaffes both candidates have clearly made, why isn't anyone on the Democrat side making some points about why Biden would be a good leader? I've written long and exhaustive posts backed up with actual data and factual events of things Trump has achieved in his four years in office. We can't have an informed discussion otherwise.
I think it is absolutely a step in the right direction and shows that he does care for people unlike himself, given the US incarcerated population is overwhelmingly African American.I don't support Biden either, I'm not in the US and I don't have an opinion on him. Proposing a ban on Muslims coming to the US is proposing action, it's not just a gaffe. He did one good thing bringing about the First Step Act legislature (mainly prompted by his advisers), and you seem to imply it absolves him of all past transgressions.
Why are Saudi Arabia allowed, despite the weapons, America sells to them, goes to ISIS.I think it is absolutely a step in the right direction and shows that he does care for people unlike himself, given the US incarcerated population is overwhelmingly African American.
Executive Order 13769 ("Muslim Ban") lowered the number of refugees to be admitted into the United States in 2017 to 50,000, suspended the U.S. Refugee Admissions Program (USRAP) for 120 days, suspended the entry of Syrian refugees indefinitely, directed some cabinet secretaries to suspend entry of those whose countries do not meet adjudication standards under U.S. immigration law for 90 days, and included exceptions on a case-by-case basis. The Department of Homeland Security lists these countries as Iran, Iraq, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Syria, and Yemen. More than 700 travelers were detained, and up to 60,000 visas were "provisionally revoked."
The majority of these countries were added as countries of concern by Secretary of Homeland Security Jeh Johnson during the Obama administration so it wasn't a policy that was uniquely Trump or came out of nowhere. He just took it a step further.
If you're in Europe, I think the past decade has proven that it's smart to be cautious about admitting refugees, particularly from regions with more political/religious extremism. While many refugees are good people who genuinely need a safe haven, not every single asylum seeker has good intentions and it's not unreasonable to filter carefully. We have seen a lot of unrest and crime (both petty and serious) spiking in many nations who did not do their due diligence. Safety will always be paramount to a nation and its people.
Why are Saudi Arabia allowed, despite the weapons, America sells to them, goes to ISIS.
So, Trump denied black people access to rental, but he isn't racist?
So Saudi Arabia, sell Americans weapon to ISIS, but Trump doesn't block them from coming into the country?U.S. Security Cooperation With Saudi Arabia - United States Department of State
The United States and Saudi Arabia are working collectively toward the common goal of a stable, secure, and prosperous Middle East. Saudi Arabia is a vital U.S. partner on a wide range of regional security issues, and a founding member of the Global Coalition to Defeat ISIS. Saudi Arabia...www.state.gov
Hopefully the above article may answer some of your questions re: arms sales to Saudi, and potentially ending up in the hands of terroist organisations.
I also think that even though you’ve had some answers to your other questions, nothing anyone says will be good enough for you, so rather than asking the same questions time after time, perhaps you could educate us on why Biden winning the presidency would be (in your opinion) a good thing?
NO, he called it the “China Virus” MANY more times!!No, he called it Kung Flu.
He also tried to ban Muslims coming into the US. You can bring up injustices whilst still being prejudiced against them.
he also called it the Kung Flu virus, you're ignoring that.NO, he called it the “China Virus” MANY more times!!
Trump sparks anger by calling coronavirus the 'Chinese virus'
China’s foreign ministry says US president should ‘stop this despicable practice’www.theguardian.com
Also, if you can answer this question. Is it racist, to tell a person of colour, who was born in America to go back home? Try and not resort back to Biden to avoid answering.NO, he called it the “China Virus” MANY more times!!
Trump sparks anger by calling coronavirus the 'Chinese virus'
China’s foreign ministry says US president should ‘stop this despicable practice’www.theguardian.com
He also called it the “China Virus” many more times. Would you like me to post every single article on this??he also called it the Kung Flu virus, you're ignoring that.
Also, if you can answer this question. Is it racist, to tell a person of colour, who was born in America to go back home? Try and not resort back to Biden to avoid answering.
Ducking the question again. Can you answer this simple question? Is it okay to say to someone, born in a America, a person of colour, to go back home, saying they aren't American based on the colour of the skin.He also called it the “China Virus” many more times. Would you like me to post every single article on this??. Have fun arguing with yourself, I’m out!! Peace.
You can actually answer a question to begin with, instead of ducking and dodging.He also called it the “China Virus” many more times. Would you like me to post every single article on this??. Have fun arguing with yourself, I’m out!! Peace.
Hmmmm, that isn't really what he said though was it?Trump told people of colour to go back home, despite being born in the America, that's racism. Did he say these words or not?
Quoting myself because we’re still waiting for this.And instead of focusing on the gaffes both candidates have clearly made, why isn't anyone on the Democrat side making some points about why Biden would be a good leader? I've written long and exhaustive posts backed up with actual data and factual events of things Trump has achieved in his four years in office. We can't have an informed discussion otherwise.
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