Phil I Buster

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If you look at the comments, all the blue ticks are up his arse “love this for you” “yessss” “powerful”. The usual nonsense. It’s all so Emperor’s New Clothes where everyone knows it’s ridiculous but nobody will say it.
 
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plinky2

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If Sam Smith had a hot skinny bod and was a mega dancer would it be an issue?

He seems to have reinvented himself and is embracing his identity, am not a fan of the song but like Unholy a lot, I live his Bond choon too!

From his IG he seems happy now possibly in some sort of relationship. I do hope he has people to keep him grounded besides the usual hangers on / yes people.
I think it’s just for me the pure cringe of the poses and outfits not the size. I’m a chunk myself. I am not sure what kind of unique reinvention this is, I have gay friends go to gay bars and pride etc and this look or act isn’t unusual, it’s performative and very kink driven, which is fine but let’s just call it what it is. SS is openly into kink now and bringing kink into his music which is quite niche and not for everyone. Drinking piss and BDSM references just appear to be Sam indulging in a vanity project tbh, they just released another song about sex and made a video entirely about sex. It’s not really that deep.

Sam is a non binary version of cardi B now. At least cardi b is funny. Sam’s SM feed is now the same 1,000 of himself with the one same face doing the one same pose.

At least when Sam was songwriting before it was more emotion based and I quite liked it but I think he’s lost a bit of a fan base who just find this entire thing cringy. I also was a kid of the late 80’s and 90’s so men wearing make up or dresses was edgy and made them cool - this is not something that’s cringe in itself, I think it’s just Sam isn’t pulling it off
 
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Pinchme

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If you identify as non binary, can you be gay? Someone please educate me. My understanding is that if you identify as non binary, you don’t align with any sex, so if you’re sexless can you be homosexual? I’m old and confused 🫤
I truely believe those that say they are non binary haven't a clue themselves, it's just a fad for attention.
Why they just don't say I'm gay, which the majority of NB seem to be.

I had an argument with a women that was a lesbian but insisted she wasn't a women and that she was non binary and a they /them, and they think we're the mad gender phobics, nutters the lot of them.
 
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RachRN86

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I think they would annoy me regardless of what they are wearing. It's the smug face. Also, it annoys me when people think queer = overtly sexual. You do you babes but there's more to being queer than rubbing your nips down a back alley in London for tiktok
 
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Tui

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I don't feel anyone would have an issue with that as you're trying, as you say. I think the problem is when people get the pronouns wrong thinking it's funny, as have quite a few on here and social media over the last few days re Sam. That's quite pathetic.

And re the whole non-binary thing - there are many different ways to be non-binary. For example, I'm male but don't identify with many "traditional" male things - i.e. I bloody hate football. I guess that would make me a "brainwashed loon" to some...
No, you’re a man. Liking pink things and wearing a skirt or anything else doesn’t change that.
 
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Belle Amie

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The more I see of Sam Smith the more I believe in the illuminati controlling the entertainment industry and putting him through a humiliation ritual right now
 
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Cocobaby09

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It’s an insult to utter his name with George Michael’s.
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Drives me bonkers when he tries to force the comparison. Homie, you’re not the George Michael of your generation. He didn’t rely on these horrific tactics to gain respect in the industry.
Indeed. He had huge talent, was gorgeous and quietly charitable. I’m still gutted he’s gone. 💔
 
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Blockster

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Sam Smith is a gay man but he knows he's a gay, white man and now the woke nutters have got bored with straight, white men they've moved onto the gay community, so he has to pretend he's non binary so that he can be put in the victimised minority group.
 
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Pinchme

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I do wonder how you and some others would react to a son or daughter of theirs telling them that they wish to be referred to using pronouns. Would you take the piss out of them?
If one of my kids decided to change their pronouns I would say, don't be so bloody stupid, and grow up. I will never use pronouns to anyone, I think they are complete nonsense I see a male or a female, a he or her, have your pronouns but don't expect people to just except them, they are beyond ridiculous, find another way for attention.
 
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Tabitha D

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He doesn’t look very happy does he. Not like he’s enjoying wearing that outfit. Where’s the fun?

ETA: There are other artists that would wear the hell of that outfit. Yes it would still look daft, but a bit of humour goes a long way. Sam’s miserable slapped-arse face just says “they MADE me wear this”.
 
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plinky2

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I do have kids actually a 13 and 8 yo. My husband and I grew up very worldly, from poor and disrupted childhoods so we’ve both seen and sadly experienced a lot. Our goal with our kids isn’t to shield them from the world or hide things from them, the world is a shit place and every generation had their own “porn, sex, internet” hysteria. In our opinion the younger you’re exposed to the darkness of the world the less negatively impacted or likely to be influenced you are.

we encourage our kids to critically think about what they see and consume, we are open with them and in turn they feel free to ask us questions and we have chats about everything you’ve mentioned. We give them privacy while monitoring and tbh we’ve never found anything worrying so we must be doing something right. They have iPhones and social media just like their friends but they don’t mindlessly and secretly consume content, which is where I think the problem is. Some of daughters friends are really left to their own devices by their parents or overly sheltered and they are the ones dressing inappropriately or even talking to boys

and all the people I mentioned have at some point been widely praised for their antics or still are. Cardi b is still seen by many in the media and fans as a feminist icon of sorts. People suddenly calling it dark and demonic are the same people that called others conspiracy theorists for pointing out the same things back in 2010s

and yes I agree, my initial post literally said no one has to like, understand or support them but everyone going out of their way to humiliate them and make them feel like shit is very weird.
I had no internet as a child I am from the 80’s. I literally had never seen it until I was in my 20’s! How can you compare us with this new generation from 2000’s on? If my parents didn’t like us watching any dodgy stuff they would just turn over the one of the 4 channels. The stuff you are talking about is men wearing make up on top of the pops once a week. It was not being streamed everywhere, all the time like it is now. It is almost impossible to not see this stuff. I don’t even use social media that much at all but I have seen more of Sam smiths nipples than I have seen my own lately.

When my kids were growing up the level of access you are constantly monitoring is mind-blowing. It is interesting you have relatively young kids, wait until you have 15 and 16 year olds - it gets harder! Of course you can shield a young child from these things with much more ease, you just block it but once they gain independence, you as parents are overpowered by all of the external influences and all you can do is hope you did enough. That’s not to say there is no responsibility for anyone else in the world to not bringing fetish porn mainstream. I don’t think we need it in mainstream society, it’s not art, it’s fetish porn.

Cardi B has a huge fan base and also a huge backlash. She is so overly sexualised and she has to be more and more risqué to stand out - that’s the point. You can’t be seen to be ‘boring’ and ‘normal’ anymore because society wants to see drama, outrage, sex, violence, and people are now desensitised to this so much, it’s allowing all kinds of things to pass that shouldn’t really.

Desensitisation of society is a bad thing. We should be ok with being shocked by things and not liking them. We do not have to accept everything we see and like it. Society shouldn’t be pushing us all to accept everything in front of us, I have my boundary and it’s no one else’s right to tell me I’m wrong and they are right just because it isn’t seen as woke enough. This veers into the debate about women being erased from society and I agree that they are. Even mothers now aren’t allowed to have an opinion on how society might harm their kids. Guess what, if mainstream fetish porn harms our kids it’s all the fault of mothers!
 
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ranchdistressing

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The issue with is really not his size/shape, identity/sexual preference, outlandish "style" or anything else....it's purely that he looks UNCOMFORTABLE.

Just standing there he looks so awkward. When he's dancing it's even worse, it's like watching some first week Strictly dropout with a back brace and caliper boots on! 😆


He's so stiff and just "odd" looking. It's unpleasant to look at. I think maybe his recently increased habitus isn't helping matters, since he's carrying a bit of timber, but he's not a pop star. He's a guy with a good voice, who sits on a stool and whines about failed romances, he's not designed nor meant to be on stage wiggling his junk around like fuckin' Beyonce!


That and the fact he absolutely stinks of over inflated ego and privilege. The press need to stop giving him attention and let him fade out of our collective consciousnesses until he comes to his senses and stops making a show of himself.
 
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