JodieGreen123

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I’m not paranoid about other women/him cheating but if I find out he had a Greg’s/McDonald’s/kfc etc without me then I’m livid!
 
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restingbtcface

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My cousins grandma recently passed away and her grave is near Azaylias. She went to visit the grave on Mother’s Day. There was a party at azaylias grave, cars blocking the drive way in, chairs everywhere, loud music playing. My friend was understandably annoyed. They think they’re so famous people won’t mind.
 
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gigilouxx

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I really don’t think where a babies buried or cremated is anything we should be discussing. It’s tasteless and no one else’s business.
 
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Mumofgirls

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Ashley definitely influenced Saf massively when it came to dealing with her grief…so what if she wanted to spend time in bed…feeling all of her emotions…her precious baby girl had died!
i know if I lost one of my daughters I would not be in the right frame of mind to get up everyday and go the gym or go on a bike ride! It used to make
really sad when she used to feel the need to explain herself in her stories! Since they have split you can see a difference in her…l think Ashley used to make her feel bad or ashamed for not wanting to get up everyday and go on a 10 mile run! Her 1st Mother’s Day without her little girl was always going to be so so hard…I wouldn’t have been able to even get out of bed…she should have had so much support around her that day! Don’t get me wrong I do think they both did some very wrong things in the last weeks of their babies life,and did get products and money off the back of that…but it’s obvious Ashley completely alienated her from mum so he had control over her..I think she went along with everything because he was her biggest connection to Azaylia…I hope she finds herself again now she is away from him..I do think he hasn’t dealt with his own grief and it will hit him like a ton of bricks one day…you can only keep going like that for so long
 
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gigilouxx

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I hope I don’t sound sick but they need to let Azaylia rest now. It’s too much.

Ashley can shout all he wants that Azaylia wanted him to do this that and the other but it’s self satisfying nonsense, she was 8 months old, all she would’ve wanted was kisses, cuddles, food and play. The editing of pictures, the merchandise and the “orange army” stuff in my opinion has done is just turn that sweet little babies life into nothing but a self absorbed pantomime with the routine narcissistic chanting. It needs to stop.

Sorry if I sound like a sicko I don’t mean to but I can’t get over all of it. All the photos of her edited onto lions and fucking mountains, it’s just defacing her photo.
 
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BellaP

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I'm going to be brutally honest here.

Saf and Ash have gone through nothing different to others who have ill children. I'd say they've had a much easier journey,however, I am not minimising their grief. Most parents don't have the luxury of being sent deliveroo meals and free coffees during the day. Most aren't sent fancy hair curlers and clothes when their baby's are are ill and if they were, they'd likely be trying to sell them to raise funds. Many parents have to rush back to work, and the sympathy of employers runs out sooner or later.

Personally, I found it massively insensitive that Saf was so concerned with having a great hairstyle when many in the ward, including her own child, were losing theirs! It was so weird that they were then able to pose in the bathroom with new clothes.

The saddest part about this, is that the public raised all that money in just 24 hours. That exact same money is now sitting in their bank accounts and parents have to submit forms, jump through hoops to be considered for just a tiny portion of that money - it's really bloody foul.

We don't need to be made aware of childhood cancer, we know it exists. What we want is to to make the lives of those children a little more happy and to alleviate the worries of those parents by perhaps covering the odd bill here and there for them so that they can feel that tiny bit more lighter.

For Saf and Ash, this really isn't about A. They have completely dehumanised her by turning her into a commodity. She was a tiny baby who was probably often sad because of all her pain, that likely enjoyed hugs, cuddles, love, warm and stimulation. That's it. By by calling her brave, fearless, a champ etc is bulshit. She was likely petrified of all the pain and that's human, anyone would be scared and in pain.

I really wish they'd stop using her name to make money and let her rest in peace. They should change the name to 'the Ash foundation'.
 
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paradigm9

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I stumbled across this website and I hope you don’t mind me adding in my comments especially if these things have already been discussed.

I’m absolutely certain nobody anywhere in the world would not have sympathy for anyone losing a child, that goes without saying. It must be an unimaginable grief that you will never truly get over.

However, people donated in good faith to a specific cause, for treatment to save their baby. Sadly when their baby died the money was no longer needed for the reason it was donated. Therefore in my opinion if they keep that money they have an absolute duty to explain IN DETAIL how that money is now going to be used.

These are everyday people who donated, people who have also lost children and despite their grief they have to get on with everyday life as they simply cannot afford to lay around in bed or go running all day.

So with that in mind, what I completely disagree with is the lack of transparency about how this PUBLIC money is now being used. What are the rules of a Foundation versus Charity? What expenses are allowable? What proportion of funds are actually being used for research? etc etc?

You just can’t take peoples money and then ignore the difficult questions. Isn’t that like me blocking my boss because they asked me how I’m getting on with a project that I am being paid to deliver?!
 
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Sweetcorn

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Hey tattlers, thanks again for all your well wishes!

I decided to go with number three so I haven’t contacted him and removed him. Thought the best way was to just play cool and look completely unbothered so that’s what I’ve done. I’m okay, I’m not going to cry over him, it’s so not worth it. More than anything it just makes you feel so embarrassed because like I’ve already said, now I need to explain to my family and friends, when I just told them about him 🤦🏼‍♀️

At this point I’m just frustrated in general with men and dating. I hate to generalise but from this thread it appears so many men act this way (or worse) and I’m just left wondering how many more times will I be screwed over? Part of me wants to give up with dating apps but then I’d have no way of meeting guys, even more so now with covid, but even if covid wasn’t a factor it would still be hard for me to meet guys (I also work in a very female dominated environment). I’m kinda losing hope that guys won’t always be assholes.

As well guys are just so hard to read and they change their minds in the blink of an eye. Like in this instance, I think he just got spooked by how intense things were getting and maybe thought he wanted something more casual instead, which is mega frustrating because HE was the one to make it so intense. I imagine this happens with many guys, they are all in then suddenly get cold feet but.. why? Don’t go in so intense if it’s going to freak you out! Haha it’s really not that hard.

Should we as women be more assertive about what we expect? But then I feel like most guys would think you were a bit ‘crazy’ (yep their favourite word) and back off straight away. But then you think we’ll that guy really wasn’t worth the time then but ughhh they are just impossible 😂

But yeah maybe we should get a dating advice thread? Where we can share stories and advice (If there isn’t already one?) because it appears so many of us go through this stuff and I really enjoyed this girl chat with you all 💘
 
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LaurieLaurie

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It actually sounds like love bombing and alarm bells are ringing. I hate to be harsh but he sounded full of shit from the word go.
 
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Lucyxxxx

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Sorry to lower the tone but couldn't imagine looking at Ashley Cain and thinking phwoarrrr! If that man tried to move to me I think I would call the non emergency police line!
 
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luciepd

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Call me old fashioned but I don’t think kids should have the burden of knowing about childhood cancer and knowing about a baby they don’t know from Adam dieing
Yes I do agree with this. My daughter has been battling leukaemia for nearly 6 years and I still don’t use the words cancer to describe her journey. She doesn’t need to know. But I do feel more awareness is needed.
 
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