My sister had her first child aged 17. Once she escaped the abusive house we all grew up in, she got married and they bought a tiny house when she got a part time job at the job centre. She helped tens of thousands of people to claim benefits and access training there. After she had been promoted a few times, she began training staff specifically in ways to help people. She then went on to help build a network of (not private sector) training networks to increase levels of literacy and numeracy - the reason why people can get free qualifications in Literacy and Numeracy, as well as GCSEs as adults is due to her hard work campaigning out of the public eye with others who felt the same, that people needed more than just money, they needed actual skills and qualifications to be able to have better lives.

Her house was lovely and very slowly went from bare essentials to beautiful items all carefully chosen and saved for. In her spare time, she'd raise money for assorted charities. Interestingly, she had no time at all for the people who earned money from wailing on TV as they weren't doing the actual work but were picking up thousands of pounds to stick up their noses spend on pretty much the shit that politicians would claim the benefits claimants were going to spend their money on. A suggestion of raising funds for TT was met with a 'rather not, it won't get to the people who need it and it's in their interests that nothing changes, as that's how they make a living'. For somebody who didn't have a bad bone in her body, she had nothing good to say for yet another permanently sniffing media type.


She started her latest fundraising recently. It's what she does, tries to actually help people. She died this morning of cancer, having not said a word to anybody outside her closest family, as she didn't want people to feel guilted into giving money they couldn't afford. It's her birthday next week, just under a fortnight after mine.


She achieved more over her lifetime than JM has done with half a million people paying her attention. She hadn't made a living of hundreds of thousands of pounds out of centring things around how she was pregnant, vulnerable and escaped neglect and abuse as a genuinely tiny and malnourished teenage girl. She got a job, she did it well, she improved her qualifications and she worked bloody hard to make it possible to not just improve the world for a few people, but for thousands. Without ever begging for money and attention, never being a cunt to others, never wanging on about how she'd managed to get from a shithole to a lovely house, just being herself.


I'm sad, obviously. It hurts that she's not around making the world that little bit nicer tonight. But her impact on other people's lives was huge.



My most recent memory of her was when somebody gave her a JM book. She was her usual lovely self, very appreciative and grateful for the kind gift. When I went into the kitchen after her friend had left, I found that my lovely, sweet, caring sister who genuinely had done so much for others and would never say a harsh word to anybody had taken that book, still half wrapped - and planted it squarely in the kitchen bin.
 
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Jay-cloth Cow

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Fraus...sorry to derail but I have MAJOR gossip (though I can't share too much sadly, she said I could share some but gotta redact a bit due to potential 🔺️) Am in the office today and was just having my morning grunk, one of my colleagues came over and said 'oh are you on tattle? I don't have an account but stalk a few essex based threads like Lauren Goodger...who do you look at?' Told her Jack and also to join us in F&D...her response - oh my **** knows her ex's brother well! Asked which ex....it's only Harold! His name is not in fact Harold which I was highly disappointed about. They met during the eyeshadow thirst trap period but not in AA, although he is teetotal. He is apparently a lovely but very naive man in his personal life (and she confirmed he is very tall) and was totally taken in by her, he is indeed not on social media and had no idea who she was before meeting. He does not work in a shop like she claimed, he works in the city in a rather high powered job and comes from a £££ family. He ended things with her as she was pure drama (no surprise there) and became overly reliant on him - apparently he is a simple man who wants a peaceful personal life as his work is so stressful. She continues to bombard him with abuse to the point he is considering changing his phone number. She told me more but alas it is too 🔺️ so I can't share. But basically she was lovely at first but when revealed her true colours he scarpered.
 
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Lucy Aeroplane

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Hello frauen! I probably won’t post that often but have created an account just to say PRAISE THE BABY JESUS that you all exist, because honestly it’s a weird life over here knowing for a fact that JM’s BS is BS and yet frequently seeing her promoted all over the media as some sort of expert, despite her demonstrable total fucking lack of expertise or even any media skill. I’ve done a bit of a grunk, and it does amaze me that all this info is already out there yet it seems no journos are actively poking around. These threads are spot on in their recognition and observations of her BS, and for any journos who might be scouting them, they’re also good in terms of evidence gathering to prove the BS is BS.

Special hello to Toffee, from a fellow native Southender. I don’t live in the ends any more and haven’t for [unspecified number of] years. But am in JM’s age range and, before I moved away, was involved in a couple of the social circles she always seemed to want to be central in but was only ever peripheral to, if even that.

Unlike some here (but I’m glad to see not all), I do feel very sorry for her. She has been excluded and ostracised socially for a very long time, in part because of her compulsive bullshitting, and yet she just can’t stop herself. Her life would be so much better if she actually did half the things she says she does, but she doesn’t. And as many have observed, she seems to have let her life be overtaken by a social media addiction. Her social media lying seems to be absolutely pathological at this stage - it’s SO frequent, and about such minor things that are easily disproved, in addition to the Big Lies. It’s hard not to have pity for someone whose life is so meaningless that this is what she chooses to do with it.

I actually grew up in a shitty bit of the town and went to shit schools, with kids from proper deprived households (some of whom were seriously mistreated by their parents too: not just “Mummy paid more attention to the other kids than me” as seems to be Jack’s idea of mistreatment). We all had shit prospects, and most of us didn’t do all that well after school, and many of my friends never escaped our neighbourhood even for a short while. My parents gave me a stable roof over my head (and at times we were able to take in my schoolfriends when their family situations were dangerous), but weren’t great parents other than that due to their own crappy upbringings. They also couldn’t afford to do anything more for me than the very basics most of the time. We had ONE holiday my entire childhood, and that was a week in a random bit of [another mainland UK country]. (My mum went abroad for the first time in her life a few years back, when she’d reached the tender age of 64.) Won’t give more info about my upbringing, etc. as could be a bit outing, but Jack’s povvo cosplay has nothing on me and my mates, who were actually from poor Southend families and didn’t have a fraction of the comfort or opportunity she’s had all her life, and who don’t have the type of parents who can pass on inheritances like she does. It’s so, SO fucking insulting to us actual poors for her to pretend she was poor. Never mind to now make a comfortable living from the platform she has as a result of her “I was poor once” backstory. Just, wow.

I know you frauen all know she lives somewhere nice, but unless you know Southend, you probably don’t really appreciate just how nice it is. It’s kind of like the St John’s Wood of Southend borough, basically - if well-off London enclaves are a useful reference point for anyone here. (With some parts of Leigh and Chalkwell being like the South Kensington of Southend!) Thorpe Bay, especially her bit, is really super naice. (To draw comparisons with other fairly well-known London neighbourhoods, the bit of town where I grew up isn’t massively far off somewhere like Broadwater Farm or the old Crossways/Devons estate. Except with much, MUCH less community spirit. It isn’t naice - it ain’t even nice, tbh - and it never will be. Any Southend frauen, you probably know exactly where I’m talking about, or at least will have it narrowed down to 2-3 small areas!) I’d happily walk round Jack’s bit of Thorpe Bay on my own after dark, even if I won’t walk round near my home patch after dark. It’s really lovely in her neighbourhood. Her parents’ road is also very nice indeed, although not as nice as the road where Jack’s SHITTY RENTED BUNGALOW is.

That said about my upbringing, and all the barriers I’ve faced and still face daily (because I’m autistic+ADHD, with actual proper diagnoses of both) - I’m a functional adult with great friends, lovely kids, and somehow I manage not to fib about things. I’m lucky, I managed to escape actual lifelong poverty, but in doing so had to relocate for training and work. Yep, I am LUCKY, because although I worked bloody hard to get where I am, I still got the type of lucky break that I see many, many hard workers never ever getting. And although I’ll still never own a property or inherit money, for example, my kids and I will do ok compared to where we started and that’s what matters. (Like … my kids have ISAs, but I never had anything like that because my family, and all the other people like my family, just don’t have things like that. Mainly cos we don’t know about them or think it’s not for the likes of us. I learnt about cooking and savings as an adult. Teaching poor people about this stuff IS a good idea, and I personally think Jack is awful for using her privileged position to say it isn’t a good idea. That’s how poor people are kept poor ffs, by remaining clueless about the alternatives.)

I’m a single parent, and unlike Jack I’m an actual Lone Parent and I work full-time. Youngest is younger than SB was during The Poverty so I really don’t get her excuses - yes working around kids is complicated but not impossible, and actually if you have support around you it’s totally doable. Jack always did and indeed does have family to share the weight. (My kids and I don’t live near my parents now, and sadly they wouldn’t be much use for childcare if we did because funnily enough poor people get disabled by poor health much earlier than rich people - so whereas her parents still live lovely rich full lives, and good on them for that, my parents have had serious health issues for years and one of my siblings lives with them to provide care.)

Jack’s mum and dad would never in a million years have let her and SB go cold or hungry, so the whole dynamic of The Poverty and her pretending she had no reliable sources of support during that time is weird as fuck. I don’t understand how her parents can be ok with Jack painting them as basically monsters who would have seen their daughter and grandson starve and freeze, and yet choosing never to defend themselves against all that. Maybe they’re quietly making their peace with the fact that their daughter has MH issues that result in her lying and playing perpetual victim. I don’t know what the other explanations might be for the fact they’ve never come out and said “erm, no, we’re not horrible people, and we didn’t actually want our daughter and grandson to starve”. It’s an odd one. They can’t be unaware of all the stuff she says on Twitter that they know isn’t true - the Jubilee gun nonsense indicated that they draw a line somewhere. They - very kindly IMO - choose to keep her in their lives, even though she’s trashed them to the world, and made them seem like really nasty people for letting her and her toddler starve and freeze. That’s very forgiving of them, and they’re clearly NOT horrible people at all. (As a parent, I’d hazard a guess that they probably want to keep their heads down so they can stay in her life and keep an eye out for her and look after her as much as they can.)

I sincerely believe that if Jack got the fuck off social media, she might actually be able to be productive, to make the difference she claims she wants to make, and she might even find some happiness in herself. That might mean she wouldn’t feel the need to lie about SO. MANY. POINTLESS. THINGS. (Or indeed hang around here to see what people are saying about her.) She wouldn’t be so keen for attention if she was actually happy and fulfilled. It’s genuinely a sad thing to see her choices and behaviours.

I’m torn between on one hand wanting to see a good piece of investigative journalism on Jack’s grift, and … well … on the other hand, wanting her to just stop fucking grifting, and wanting her to learn more about how to have tangible impact (and also wanting her for the love of god to learn how to properly interrogate and analyse a fucking basic dataset). If only she would take a nice big time out, to understand not only her immense privilege but what she ought to do with it, she could really use her platform for good. She could probably even do some meaningful and worthwhile work. But she mainly uses her platform for self-aggrandisement, hurling insults, and for pretending she’s doing meaningful work for poor people instead of actually going out and doing meaningful work. She could be way better. That Guardian bit the other day, I mean my god she could only aspire to be a fraction as effective as Kwajo has been, and he’s only 23. Amazing young bloke. He knows what’s up because he actually lives it, he doesn’t cosplay it. But she doesn’t know what she’s doing, and it shows so clearly nowadays.

I’m a bit disappointed that she won’t be able to bring that libel action against Lee Anderson, because I think it would be great for her to be forced to face up to all her BS in a formal (courtroom) setting. She IS profiting from people poorer than her: I don’t understand how she even thinks that comment can be challenged. But she won’t want to publish her Patreon or tip jar income, or info about all her other income streams, because people would be gobsmacked at the difference between how much money she has coming in vs her public struggling povvo pretentions, so the lawsuit can’t be allowed to happen. If she does have a good legal team, they’ll be advising her not to bother.

Jack, we know you read these threads and pay attention to them. Please take some advice from someone who doesn’t actually hate you but who really hates what you choose to do. Go on hiatus, get off social media for an extended period of time, get out and do actual meaningful work quietly and for no praise (like, QUIETLY volunteer for the foodbanks perhaps, meet more of the wide range of Southend povvos and maybe not be OMG amazed that many of us actually have brains and work ethics and have even had proper jobs and shit), and get yourself into some good quality talking therapy. You’d probably benefit more from DBT than anything else, but it can be very hard to access on the NHS - though I reckon a little of your Patreon income could pay for a couple of DBT sessions a month. Just, please, get good therapy with someone who will challenge you; work through why you’ve developed this need to lie (about tiny pointless things as well as big things), and why you need to attack people who point out you’re not being honest and truthful. Work out why the life choice you’ve made is to make a grift off the back of an origin story that is easily proven to be BS, instead of choosing to do something real and meaningful with your life. Therapy will be probably really uncomfortable for you, but it’s the only way you’re going to change for the better. You could move in with your folks for a couple of years and go low-profile while you get your head straight and plan a proper path.

If you carry on the way you are, it’ll be so much worse for you when your grift is eventually publicised. And it will be, cos more of us are confident calling it out now, we’re just so fed up of your BS. You’re simply not a credible spokesperson for people in crushing poverty, having never actually experienced it. You don’t actually know the feeling of total lack of opportunity and how stifling it is. You don’t actually understand about what it feels like to struggle your whole life because you know you’ll never, ever, ever have any money. You’ll never live like Common People - your dad owns multiple properties ffs (and your mum is a decent lady who for any faults has always had your back in practical terms) - so give up on the weird play-acting. Sort yourself out, actually take the time to get good at something, and you could do something real with your life instead of just spouting words and making empty gestures. You have another 50-60 years of your life to live yet; please don’t waste them all being shit forever.
 
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MancBee

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Jumping forward (again) to say...

My friend died last week, his brother is a famous UK TV chef. I would say one of the top 10 most famous TV chefs of recent years. I have just come off the phone with said famous chef regarding funeral arrangements etc.

I haven't seen said chef for a few years and we got chatting about all sorts in an attempt to make the call not all about the funeral...needless to say Jack's name came up.

Let's just say, that WhatsApp group that we all joke about may not be too far off the mark. A lot was said in confidence, but nothing was complimentary. It was hinted that Nigella's part to play in this is also being questioned. I wish I could say more, but was asked not to.

One thing is for sure, Jack might be pretending all is well, but the industry isn't.

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Just a polite request to post any condolences in F&D, thanks all.
 
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Moxie_Mama

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Another squig is claiming to have given over £600 to Jack (but no receipts given so may be a complete fabrication). They claim they received 4 postcards, did any of the rewards go out? I was under the impression nothing was ever posted.

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Receipts necessary but an interesting look at the current detractors.

Edit: worth mention, it is a very small account. 1 follower, joined in August, bit suspect.
I am said squig, I was on the train on the way home from work, I live in Australia. I can only go back to 2019 on my patreon dashboard but have included screenshots taken just now. Also attached was the tier I was on. I went through my statements and added that and paypal up to get to the 600.
I got a sh!t-house drawing of an onion, a bowl being held in her hands with some slop in and another couple of 'arty' pictures. I rejoined twitter to support AM, but have been lurking in here for ages.
 

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jenny2603

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When you say had, does that mean the treatment was successful? Hope so as that's a nice thing for others to read if they are concerned.

I've had a couple of things I've been worried about over the years. A period that lasted months without stopping so had to have various tests. Intestinal scans to see if there were lumps there. All were non cancerous issues. I wouldn't have even thought to describe them as scares. They are just health issues until they have a name. Don't get me wrong I was concerned.
Sadly no, I have Stage 4 Cancer so it's not curable but it is treatable so I've hopefully a good while to go before it gets me. I finished chemo about a month ago and feel pretty good- certainly better than I have in the last year. I'm having hormone treatment and immunotherapy which will hopefully keep the grim reaper at bay for a while.
 
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Smellycat18

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Coming from the past to thank you nefarious ninnies. My dad died very suddenly this morning (not sad fishing, honest) and reading through some of the last couple of threads took my mind off it for a bit & made me laugh on a day when I didn’t think that would be possible ❤

I think my two favourites were Andy’s review and the bizarre thread argument totally unrelated to Jack (the one that had somebody working in the bakery at Asda & “remember when I pulled your brothers pants over ya”)
 
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threetintender

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Today I learned something. I seriously didn’t know about the terrible Ivan Cameron tweet, I have no idea how she buried that but she had me on side after that event….had I known, it would have been very different. There are people here in this online community who will have lost children, just like I did. My little son was called Gabriel and I will never get over his loss. Having been someone who would have said I wouldn’t piss on a Tory if they were on fire, I wrote to David and Samantha Cameron after Ivan died because I had a pretty good idea how they were feeling. How this charlatan, this bogus, wicked chancer got away with not being cancelled for all time after that is just beyond me. And it was after this, in ignorance of this (mea culpa) that I GAVE HER SOME MONEY. This makes me want to vomit from the pelvis upwards. I’m so sorry.
 
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Anglesx

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I think there is a science park/exploratory by there too (replacing the one at Temple Meads yonks ago)
Do you mean we the curious? (formally @bristol). There was a fire in the summer and it's currently closed for repair until January, but there's always so much to do. We do something different every week with our kids.
It's the last weekend the zoo is open in its current, historical location, she could come for the weekend and take him there on Saturday. There's Aerospace Bristol, so many museums and cinemas, climbing walls, bowling alleys etc and there are several cool exhibitions on right now like Wake the Tiger and the Van Gough interactive experience.


I've been trying to catch up for at least 15 threads now! I wanted to pop in when someone asked about what the tipping point for new people was. Hi, I'm a new person. And my tipping point was actually years ago, but I've been keeping my distance from the Jack topic on purpose because I am a twitterite.

I'm the same age as Jack and work in publishing, so I've been aware of her since the blog days. Like many a 20-something in publishing, I was a big blogger/Tumblr girl. I found Jack's blog while researching recipes for a cookbook I was working on for my company (we came for your niche 10 years ago Jack, we did a whole series on one pot, one pan, cheap eats!). I cottoned on that things weren't always entirely truthful, every blog post seemed to have contradictory statements, and as someone who did actually grow up in poverty, I was pretty offended by her cosplay. Everything she described was a laughable parody of what middle-class people thought poor people looked like, so for quite a long time I was convinced she was a Tory stooge. Look guys, you can survive on £10 a week you ungrateful, greedy, lazy scroungers! So I've kept tabs and popped off on Twitter from time to time.

I'm part of a cookery writers group (unfortunately not the famous whatsapp group, one for just us poor folk who actually do invent and test recipes or edit books for the famouses). Sometime at the start of the year, we all collectively agreed we'd had enough- sometime around Patreon/VBI/some decry that she's the only person cooking in the whole wide world, that we decided to email the Daily Mail and suggest they investigate.

Yes, sorry for it being the Daily Mail, but we decided they were our best bet since the other media outlets seem to revere her as some sort of working class diety, and also the Mail published quite extensive criticism of her after the Cameron tweets. We put together a little memorandum, a bit like the AwfullyMolly one, with screenshots and bullet points of her most egregious grifts and suggested they take a closer look. Nothing ever came of it. So when the AwfullyMolly thing came out there was some spiderman style finger pointing, but it wasn't any of us. But we think we know who it is because there are other groups like ours! it was only after this kicked off that I decided I couldn't take Twitter nonsense any more and came here. It's a much nicer place to be that the twitter hellscape, thanks for lots of laughs fraus!
 
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Hi team, first time poster. I'm the squig who seemingly went 'awful quiet' but actually just has to go to work to earn my money like a normal poor. She remarkably hasn't blocked me yet, which I think means she's gearing up for another feeble attempt at a pile-on. If so, I'll disappear off here again - know the rules about interaction, and she's bloody well asking for it.

She'll declare me a troll or a bully, but I'm just what she hates the most - just a normal person who has seen through her bullshit! I actually never respond to anything on Twitter and instead just use it to passively observe but she is so rude, dishonest and hypocritical that she's worn me down. She isn't fit for a career in the spotlight because she evidently can't cope with it. That's fine - neither could I.

Anyway - love your work x
 
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binkbonk

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The following video contains graphic depictions of slop, which some ninnies may find disturbing. Viewer discretion is advised.
 
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