William and Kate #8

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I think extramarital affair in those circles is still seen as normal. Just because the normal people don’t to late it doesn’t mean it’s not still normal at that level. Knowsome posh onesfrom university, the affair stuff still very normal, expectation marry, baby carry on as married is still there.

think Harry wouldn’t tolerate it base on his book but I don’t know about William as we only have tv interviews and newspapers to give a insight into his mind. Based on the rumours we can speculate but I wouldn’t be surprised, Kate mellowed him but I still think he is brat who was never told no.
Absolute nonsense. In the past it was more tolerated in aristocratic circles because marriage was tied to inheritance, status, dynastic expectations and divorce carried huge stigma. Keeping the marriage intact publicly mattered more than personal happiness.

That doesn’t mean affairs are still “normal” today just because you knew a few posh people at university doing it. Anecdotes aren’t proof of how an entire social class behaves.

And with William specifically, we actually know very little beyond gossip, rumours and tabloid speculation. Saying Kate “mellowed him” but he’s still a brat who was never told no feels more like projecting a narrative onto him than anything based on actual evidence.
 
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I for one is happy that Catherine is now well enough to travel overseas to do her work. The downside for me is that she won’t be attending the state opening of parliament on Wednesday 😢.
 
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I would believe it if there was some evidence - but there is none.
based on royal autobiographies/biographies. Various stories it sounds like the boys were both brats and used to having their own way with Charles not wanting to upset them.men that grow up in those circles often see women as cheap (Harry and the girls he bight home with fiends in Spare) the stories o what they were like as younger boys in school/university.see the child see the man.
think after the gag order on the rose h stories I believe William had an affair, I can’t see Kate tolerating it when it’s too close to home.
 
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based on royal autobiographies/biographies. Various stories it sounds like the boys were both brats and used to having their own way with Charles not wanting to upset them.men that grow up in those circles often see women as cheap (Harry and the girls he bight home with fiends in Spare) the stories o what they were like as younger boys in school/university.see the child see the man.
think after the gag order on the rose h stories I believe William had an affair, I can’t see Kate tolerating it when it’s too close to home.
A lot of this just comes down to people treating royal biographies and gossip cycles as if they’re confirmed fact, when in reality they’re often a mix of anecdote, interpretation, and speculation.

It’s also a huge leap to take isolated stories about behaviour in school or early adulthood and turn that into a fixed assumption about how someone behaves in their marriage decades later.

What is it with some people who are so desperate to push the idea that William had an affair?

That rumour is from around 2019, and we are now 7 years further down the line, yet people are still going on about that internet rumour without any evidence. After those rumours, Catherine invited Rose and her husband to her birthday with close friends and family. Rose and her husband were even seen walking with Catherine’s parents—do people really think her parents would be walking with his alleged mistress? Catherine was also seen dining and socialising with Rose at her home after those rumours.

Rose has had lawyers involved to deny it, and Catherine’s very close sister named her daughter Rose—something she would hardly do if there was any truth to that rumour.

Just because people keep repeating it—and let’s be honest, it’s often fans of a certain couple or anti-monarchists—doesn’t mean there is any truth to it.
 
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based on royal autobiographies/biographies. Various stories it sounds like the boys were both brats and used to having their own way with Charles not wanting to upset them.men that grow up in those circles often see women as cheap (Harry and the girls he bight home with fiends in Spare) the stories o what they were like as younger boys in school/university.see the child see the man.
think after the gag order on the rose h stories I believe William had an affair, I can’t see Kate tolerating it when it’s too close to home.
That is all unfounded.
 
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The fact that Pippa chose the name Rose after the rumours broke convinced me it was rit.

I would number my child rather than use the same name of a woman that caused hurt to my sister.
 
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The fact that Pippa chose the name Rose after the rumours broke convinced me it was rit.

I would number my child rather than use the same name of a woman that caused hurt to my sister.
Whereas I wouldn't give it a second thought.
 
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I am still baffled by all the people who believe the affair happened. There is zero evidence other than the words of that idiot Coren. Who everyone seems to universally loathe until he says something that some sad souls want desperately to believe.
In addition to that, other than people repeating it endlessly - where is the proof there is any kind of super injunction preventing talk of an affair?
 
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Giles Coren literally wrote in The Times calling the affair story “fake news.” If there had actually been a super injunction, he would not have been able to openly discuss the rumours in a national newspaper at all. The whole point of a super injunction is that you cannot report either the allegation or even the existence of the injunction itself.

There has never been any actual evidence of a super injunction connected to this story, just like there has never been any actual evidence for the affair rumour itself. Both have basically become internet claims that people repeat so often they start treating them as fact.

At the end of the day, it was a reprehensible joke that spiralled online and has affected two families with six children between them for the past seven years, and continues to do so to this day.
 
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It's just a fact. Being sisters doesn't mean you are automatically besties or that you're guaranteed a fabulous one.
True, but then I guess there is no evidence of any bad blood between Catherine and Pippa. By all accounts they are very close.
 
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Giles Coren literally wrote in The Times calling the affair story “fake news.” If there had actually been a super injunction, he would not have been able to openly discuss the rumours in a national newspaper at all. The whole point of a super injunction is that you cannot report either the allegation or even the existence of the injunction itself.

There has never been any actual evidence of a super injunction connected to this story
, just like there has never been any actual evidence for the affair rumour itself. Both have basically become internet claims that people repeat so often they start treating them as fact.

At the end of the day, it was a reprehensible joke that spiralled online and has affected two families with six children between them for the past seven years, and continues to do so to this day.
Not saying that an affair happened but you explained yourself why there's no evidence of a super injunction
 
Not saying that an affair happened but you explained yourself why there's no evidence of a super injunction
Yeah she’s saying if there was one Giles wouldn’t have been able to write about his stupid joke, so the fact he did means there was no injunction. If there had been any truth in the affair then pretty sure there would have been one.
 
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A lot of this just comes down to people treating royal biographies and gossip cycles as if they’re confirmed fact, when in reality they’re often a mix of anecdote, interpretation, and speculation.

It’s also a huge leap to take isolated stories about behaviour in school or early adulthood and turn that into a fixed assumption about how someone behaves in their marriage decades later.

What is it with some people who are so desperate to push the idea that William had an affair?

That rumour is from around 2019, and we are now 7 years further down the line, yet people are still going on about that internet rumour without any evidence. After those rumours, Catherine invited Rose and her husband to her birthday with close friends and family. Rose and her husband were even seen walking with Catherine’s parents—do people really think her parents would be walking with his alleged mistress? Catherine was also seen dining and socialising with Rose at her home after those rumours.

Rose has had lawyers involved to deny it, and Catherine’s very close sister named her daughter Rose—something she would hardly do if there was any truth to that rumour.

Just because people keep repeating it—and let’s be honest, it’s often fans of a certain couple or anti-monarchists—doesn’t mean there is any truth to it.
thanks for calling me a Meghan lover, I don’t actually like the woman but I do feel sorry for her based on the press coverage she received while here and directly after they left before setting up home. Now I just think she is a train wreck. Harry has and always will be a stupid brat who the palace protected but now no PR we are seeing the idiot in truth. However violence from the famous dog bowl incident should not been tolerated regardless of who it is.

i used the rose story as an example. I worked with children previously and remember my friends children’s behaviours. The child is often a smaller less able to get away with it version of an adult. This is my basis for both my feelings of the wales boys being brats (W&H).
I still think the upper class have a very loose ruling on extramarital affairs having known some from university and having read various biographies/articles with anecdotal accounts (trust them more than a palace PR article).
i could see Kate being told to play nice to squash a rumour and having seen articles saying she closed down her circle and keeps a very small group of friends, I could see her having lost some for toadying or trying to get at William.
the niece named rose I don‘t see as evidence as if you like the name you use it, if rose had broken the marriage/or been there forever like Camilla I totally see that However I see and here lots of baby name stories with the common consensus being you don’t own a name nowadays shows it wouldn’t matter.

I do feel that certain people on this thread don’t like a different point of view. Yes Kate is ill and some genuine concern about her weight is ok but if You question if the photo is posed and staged or say anything where you don’t go along with palace PR of them being so in love you get soundly told your rubbish and shouldn’t speak.
I came on here genuinely curious about what I was reading on another thread and asked if you all had an opinion any ideas only to be told I was a Sussex squad member and the devil for asking and anything I said to give context for why I thought it was genuine was shot down.

i think people need to remember your opinion is as valid as mine but don’t attack me. I haven’t called anyone’s post rubbish or told them to stop/you have no evidence/your being disrespectful etc.
can we have conversations without this or the thread title should be changed to William & Kate love only.
 
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thanks for calling me a Meghan lover, I don’t actually like the woman but I do feel sorry for her based on the press coverage she received while here and directly after they left before setting up home. Now I just think she is a train wreck. Harry has and always will be a stupid brat who the palace protected but now no PR we are seeing the idiot in truth. However violence from the famous dog bowl incident should not been tolerated regardless of who it is.

i used the rose story as an example. I worked with children previously and remember my friends children’s behaviours. The child is often a smaller less able to get away with it version of an adult. This is my basis for both my feelings of the wales boys being brats (W&H).
I still think the upper class have a very loose ruling on extramarital affairs having known some from university and having read various biographies/articles with anecdotal accounts (trust them more than a palace PR article).
i could see Kate being told to play nice to squash a rumour and having seen articles saying she closed down her circle and keeps a very small group of friends, I could see her having lost some for toadying or trying to get at William.
the niece named rose I don‘t see as evidence as if you like the name you use it, if rose had broken the marriage/or been there forever like Camilla I totally see that However I see and here lots of baby name stories with the common consensus being you don’t own a name nowadays shows it wouldn’t matter.

I do feel that certain people on this thread don’t like a different point of view. Yes Kate is ill and some genuine concern about her weight is ok but if You question if the photo is posed and staged or say anything where you don’t go along with palace PR of them being so in love you get soundly told your rubbish and shouldn’t speak.
I came on here genuinely curious about what I was reading on another thread and asked if you all had an opinion any ideas only to be told I was a Sussex squad member and the devil for asking and anything I said to give context for why I thought it was genuine was shot down.

i think people need to remember your opinion is as valid as mine but don’t attack me. I haven’t called anyone’s post rubbish or told them to stop/you have no evidence/your being disrespectful etc.
can we have conversations without this or the thread title should be changed to William & Kate love only.
I don’t think it is fair for you to psychoanalyse people without any reason / basis for doing so.
Pretty much all of what you say, is how you see people behaving (based on stereotypes).

I am not a royalist - so not actually bothered if the RF thrive or not. I do see them as real people though, and it must be difficult to live your live with this sort of made up speculation / rumour (unless it’s not rumour - than they need to face up to any wrongdoings).

I am all for a good gossip though. If there is any tea on the RF I want to hear all about it.
My issue with the William & Kate stuff is that it has no foundation.
I want real gossip with the details. I feel this may as well be Freddie Starr ate my hamster.
 
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No wonder William said recently they won’t let the kids have mobile phones. They must be dreading the day their kids can read all the crap written about their parents and other family members online.
 
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It’s the super obsessive royalists that would concern me more, they should have restraining orders against certain people…!
 
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I'm firmly of the opinion all opinions should have equally value on here. However more than once people have stated the affair as a fact and that's where I get irritated.

It isn't fact. Some say he is workshy. Ok that is possible but again there is that part of me which thinks KC3 has never liked sharing the limelight and could it be he is limiting PoW in their visits and work? Who knows. I try not to let my dislike of Charles colour my opinions but again even if they do, I'm still not trying to make them facts to suit me.
 
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