It's the only realistic short term answer, until they can build more prisons.early prison release going ahead
Good luck finding the 1000 people willing and able to be probation officers on £33k.
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This also seems to be somewhat reasonable to me
I’m very interested to see what they do with the prisons in general. It seems that Starmer has selected people who have experience and passion for this subject which doesn’t seem to be at all similar to what Tories did
And work to put something in place to decrease the huge reoffending rates
I think so too. It’s a basic capacity issue. This was the logical outcome of making core sentences longer and longer. More people more spaces needed for longer. Their hands are really tied.
I wonder what will happen when one of the early released prisoners goes on to commit something very serious? For example murder. Which is inevitable. Because that’s what criminals do. They escalate.
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Seemed a bit of a political favourite of said Tories as well.
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I'm not sure there's that much evidence for that being widespread. Not saying it never happens, of course, but the reoffending rate in general is pretty low.
I thought the early release of prisoners only applied to lesser crimes, ie theft, break ins, and not to murderers or rapists.
It will. Initially. But the thing with criminals is they have a tendency to seek ….. promotion.
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Also are they low or huge, you appear to have liked both scenarios?
It was already happening under the Tory government - unofficially - keeping people in the blind on the issue.
Reoffending is multifactorial. There is more success to prevent reoffending when the judiciary system is actively working towards reahabilitation. I doubt that the UK have the means or the mindset to take this path. Moreover, what should be the key to fight crime is prevention. The less people commit crime the less the question of recidive is a problem.
It's also difficult to fight actively against crime when the Tories decimated the police forces. There is more impunity as a consequence.
To be honest the whole situation is so messed up. Everything has been underfunded to the bone that it's either barely functionning or on the way to collapse. Also private companies received huge amount of money to solve issues on the behalf of the government - they have been at best unefficient if it wasn't just a rip off. I am not sure if people get the extent of the problem.
Punishment of crime is not a priority in a liberal society so I'm not surprised prisoners are being released early. But why is it never the single mothers and pensioners with unpaid debts and unpaid TV licences that are never released? Lawbreakers who aren't a danger to society should be dealt with without jail sentences. I'm absolutely sure that would create more space in prisons. But sure release some murderers on the innocent public 
Half the poltical class / establishment should be in jail, lets be honest. White-collar crime is just not punished. Just stick all the plebs and working-class in jail ... job's a good'un innit.Punishment of crime is not a priority in a liberal society so I'm not surprised prisoners are being released early. But why is it never the single mothers and pensioners with unpaid debts and unpaid TV licences that are never released? Lawbreakers who aren't a danger to society should be dealt with without jail sentences. I'm absolutely sure that would create more space in prisons. But sure release some murderers on the innocent public
They will be among those released, it just doesn't make headlines because they are the kind of people who everyone assumes aren't in prison.
And no murderers are being released under this scheme.
I don’t understand the criticism here as Labour are just doing exactly what the Tory government would do at this point (and already had done). What is a sensible alternative policy at this point in time? I’d love to know what some of the negative (everything and everyone is tit!) snipers on this thread think should happen instead
They do need to do something to ease prison overcrowding but I do feel slightly uncomfortable about early release, mostly because we have a shortage of probation officers to keep tabs on people.
Apparently more than half of prisoners on remand were charged with non-violent offences https://prisonreformtrust.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/Prison-the-facts-2022.pdf - so perhaps bail with strict conditions/tagging or remand to a nominated address or a hostel would be more appropriate for these cases. Especially as there are delays in cases being heard by the courts.
They could also get rid of committal to prison for things like non payment of council tax/tv licence/fines etc. Committal to prison for non payment of c-tax is a ball ache (and not to mention expensive) for local councils to administer.
The main problem is that there is no real network of support out there thanks to Tory cuts. A friend of mine is a prison officer and a lot of the men they deal with are addicts, homeless or mentally unwell (sometimes all three).
An option to could be to decriminalise drug possession for personal use and provide hubs for addicts to use drugs safely - https://news.sky.com/story/safe-pla...hould-be-piloted-in-uk-mps-recommend-12951170.
During Covid, councils were able to get all rough sleepers into temp accommodation - the govt have already put a lot of focus on housing but they also need to include supported accommodation within that to help those who are homeless that may also need mental health/addiction support. Right now a lot of this accommodation is provided by charities and like everything - there is a shortage of it, so sadly some homeless people go on to commit offences so that they get a bed and a meal for the night - whether that is in a police or prison cell.
As for Mental Health services.... they're pretty much non existent except for some telephone talking therapy (which is a valuable service - it just isn't appropriate for those with serious mental health disorders).
Crime prevention is multi-faceted. There is no quick solution. It will take time.
Apparently more than half of prisoners on remand were charged with non-violent offences https://prisonreformtrust.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/Prison-the-facts-2022.pdf - so perhaps bail with strict conditions/tagging or remand to a nominated address or a hostel would be more appropriate for these cases. Especially as there are delays in cases being heard by the courts.
They could also get rid of committal to prison for things like non payment of council tax/tv licence/fines etc. Committal to prison for non payment of c-tax is a ball ache (and not to mention expensive) for local councils to administer.
The main problem is that there is no real network of support out there thanks to Tory cuts. A friend of mine is a prison officer and a lot of the men they deal with are addicts, homeless or mentally unwell (sometimes all three).
An option to could be to decriminalise drug possession for personal use and provide hubs for addicts to use drugs safely - https://news.sky.com/story/safe-pla...hould-be-piloted-in-uk-mps-recommend-12951170.
During Covid, councils were able to get all rough sleepers into temp accommodation - the govt have already put a lot of focus on housing but they also need to include supported accommodation within that to help those who are homeless that may also need mental health/addiction support. Right now a lot of this accommodation is provided by charities and like everything - there is a shortage of it, so sadly some homeless people go on to commit offences so that they get a bed and a meal for the night - whether that is in a police or prison cell.
As for Mental Health services.... they're pretty much non existent except for some telephone talking therapy (which is a valuable service - it just isn't appropriate for those with serious mental health disorders).
Crime prevention is multi-faceted. There is no quick solution. It will take time.
He's got years of experience working to rehabilitate criminals, it's an extremely good appointmentI wonder what will happen when one of the early released prisoners goes on to commit something very serious? For example murder. Which is inevitable. Because that’s what criminals do. They escalate.
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The current Prison Minister’s most famous role was as CEO of a key cutting company.
James Timpson, Baron Timpson - Wikipedia
Seemed a bit of a political favourite of said Tories as well.
remand is a huge issue here, and our reopening rates are high due to a lack of support for those who go to prison. James Timpson is an excellent appointment and I look forward to seeing what he does with rehabilitation.
It is absolute balls that liberals want to let criminals run free, we need to look at the roots of problems rather than providing sticking plaster solutions such as just building more prisons.
Many people in prison could do with a different type of punishment, prisons without rehabilitation are a breeding ground for people making connections to lead them further into crime. Youth centres are tit, with little education and actual help for these young people, so what happens when they get out? They end up back inside.
We have to stop this and invest in rehabilitation and other methods of punishment.
It is absolute balls that liberals want to let criminals run free, we need to look at the roots of problems rather than providing sticking plaster solutions such as just building more prisons.
Many people in prison could do with a different type of punishment, prisons without rehabilitation are a breeding ground for people making connections to lead them further into crime. Youth centres are tit, with little education and actual help for these young people, so what happens when they get out? They end up back inside.
We have to stop this and invest in rehabilitation and other methods of punishment.
Prison isn't the only form of crime prevention.
That doesn't mean ZERO punishment, but it doesn't have to be prison.
Plus, there are things that can be done to stop crime happening in the first place.
As for reoffending, James Timpson is one man running a company that has shown how reoffending rates can be reduced. It's not impossible. A lot of reoffending happens because once criminals leave prison, there's no support system and some of them prefer to be in prison for the shelter, discipline and food.
That doesn't mean ZERO punishment, but it doesn't have to be prison.
Plus, there are things that can be done to stop crime happening in the first place.
As for reoffending, James Timpson is one man running a company that has shown how reoffending rates can be reduced. It's not impossible. A lot of reoffending happens because once criminals leave prison, there's no support system and some of them prefer to be in prison for the shelter, discipline and food.
I read somewhere that prisons will reach full capacity on August 1.
We either release non violent criminals early or let violent criminals walk free when prisons are at capacity.
You can't build a new prison in less than 20 days.
We either release non violent criminals early or let violent criminals walk free when prisons are at capacity.
You can't build a new prison in less than 20 days.
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