How will sites get round this?
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I doubt they will, but it has "will only be enforced when something grim happens" written all over it.
Grim things are happening!
https://news.sky.com/story/molly-ru...m-speaks-out-over-online-safety-bill-12758062Molly Russell: Friend of 14-year-old who died from self-harm speaks out over Online Safety Bill
Indeed, the issue is that laws are always passed based on the previous bad thing, and tend to miss the next bad thing.
Unless people keep pushing, which seems to be happening.
It's so odd how it's being reported. It's concentrating on one death linked to someone being served harmful content by an algorithm. Of course people want this to not happen again. But the bill is so big and unwieldy this is only the tip of the iceberg of what it contains and in the bigger picture it wouldn't even solve this one issue as harmful content would be circulated in private encrypted places. This idea you can make the internet safe with a law is such a fallacy. There needs to be steps into tightening platforms, not this pretence that it can simply be solved overnight.
https://news.sky.com/story/facing-p...set-to-toughen-up-online-safety-bill-12788447Facing pressure from Tory rebels, PM set to toughen up Online Safety Bill
Live debate going on atm
The irony
The irony
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Telegraph is leading with this today, what does it mean for the likes of discussion forums?
It's so hard to keep up with the messy ramifications of this disaster of a bill.
Latest is signal to quit the UK if they're asked to put in a backdoor. It's kinda unbelievable that such an unworkable bill is progressing and apparently in the final stages
Latest is signal to quit the UK if they're asked to put in a backdoor. It's kinda unbelievable that such an unworkable bill is progressing and apparently in the final stages
Signal would 'walk' from UK if Online Safety Bill undermined encryption
Bosses of the messaging app fear the Online Safety Bill could force it to weaken its users' security.
www.bbc.co.uk
Facebook fined a billion for misuse of data
Meta: Facebook owner fined €1.2bn for mishandling data
The dispute is over Facebook's transfer of European data to US servers.
www.bbc.co.uk
I'm quite confused as to the state of this. Women's hour had someone on talking about another amendment was needed to make it safe for women and girls online. Sure, of course no one would argue with that statement. But how?
It's turned into an ever growing list of problems online rather than any actionable solutions, or even small steps to go in the right direction.
It's turned into an ever growing list of problems online rather than any actionable solutions, or even small steps to go in the right direction.
Not the British bill but added to the new hate speech bill we may only be able to talk about the weather lol
The bill’s just been passed. Does that mean anything for Tattle - any ramifications?
Interesting to see how this plays out over the coming weeks and months.
news.sky.com
Interesting to see how this plays out over the coming weeks and months.
Online Safety Bill to become law in crackdown on harmful social media content
Peers have passed a controversial new bill aimed at making social media companies more responsible for the content shared on their platforms.
news.sky.com
I don't think so, apart from tattle is an American site the bill protects freedom of speech and takes aim at stuff like self harm and terrorism.
If tattle was about saying influencers should come to harm then it might be affected, but our rules already cover that. Saying an influencers curtains are tit is not hateful or harmful but freedom of expression about a business.
Will be interesting to see how it plays out as it's a total unworkable mess. Apple, Facebook and Google said they'd pull services if it passed.
Now if only they'd put in some proper rules around influencers and inforce them. Child labour rules would be a start.
The bill isn't about policing negative opinions on a business.
I think if it ever got that far Etsy sellers would be able to bring criminal proceedings against anyone that left a negative review, or restaurant owners similar for any negative reviews online. Of course it's not going to reach any of these extreme examples. But it's interesting to think as it's so poorly constructed.
If anything influencers should worry that they'll face criminal proceedings for damaging and harmful behaviour.
It's certainly not the law to ban any negative opinions like some influencers have been trying make out. As ever they want their cake and to eat it too.
I think if it ever got that far Etsy sellers would be able to bring criminal proceedings against anyone that left a negative review, or restaurant owners similar for any negative reviews online. Of course it's not going to reach any of these extreme examples. But it's interesting to think as it's so poorly constructed.
If anything influencers should worry that they'll face criminal proceedings for damaging and harmful behaviour.
It's certainly not the law to ban any negative opinions like some influencers have been trying make out. As ever they want their cake and to eat it too.
Who’s going to track down everyone that uses forums like this ? They wouldn’t have the manpower, unless the influencer can find out info themselves I couldn’t see (the very stretched )police force being interested in what people have to say on forums about people that choose to put themselves / exploit their kids online .
There’s a thread on here, part time working mommy, or similar. Her husband was a police officer who was dismissed, seemingly trying to use police database to trace people who called out her questionable behaviour online
Yeah that's definitely a myth. Always assumed it was an in joke rather than anything serious. Police can't access tattle data and even if they could unless you use an email address that identifys yourself it's near impossible to track anyone.
But anyway this whole extreme hypothetical scenario is irrelevant too as the bill hasn't really got anything to do with influencers. Sadly as there does need to be more laws to reign them in. Just a bit of a confusing bill with the impossible mission of making the internet safe for everyone.
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From the BBC article, this is what it's about;
Peers have passed a controversial new law aimed at making social media firms more responsible for users' safety on their platforms.
Platforms will also need to show they are committed to removing illegal content including:
child sexual abuse
controlling or coercive behaviour
extreme sexual violence
illegal immigration and people smuggling
promoting or facilitating suicide
promoting self-harm
animal cruelty
selling illegal drugs or weapons
terrorism
New offences have also been included in the bill, including cyber-flashing and the sharing of "deepfake" pornography.
Online Safety Bill: Crackdown on harmful social media content agreed
The law aims to force firms to remove illegal content and protect children from some legal but harmful material.
www.google.com
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