UK General Election 2024 #4

[kev1974]

On the topic of housing - as a leaseholder, service charge and ground rent is daylight robbery! Being charged for breathing is nuts and, turns out, insanely expensive!

Yes this is annoying, I have a leasehold flat and the Conservative government was steadily building towards leasehold reforms such as making it much easier/cheaper to extend a lease and and in some cases abolish them altogether. I hope the new government continues that work and actually gets it over the line (maybe even with further improvements). Personally I do not have a hideous ground rent but I know so many do. It's definitely a ticking timebomb that any government could and should reform for easy voter points.

 

[HelloStereo]

I understand this point of view but given the trajectory of elections over the last couple of decades I would say their parents and grandparents need the same lessons about clickbait and traditional media.

Yes, I know someone who voted Reform based on videos from Twitter / X.

 

[Rose28454]

did You have to turn anyone away for a lack of ID just out of interest?

No we had 2 people with queries - 1 with a shotgun licence but he actually had hos blue badge in his pocket and one who was mid divorce so her passport showed the wrong name but there were questions we could ask and 2 of us knew her personally. And we had 69.8% turnout !!

 

[thegirlscout]

David Cameron did very nicely out of this.

 

[Merpedy]

It’s just frustrating with teens where they tell you a story and you challenge it based on experience, wisdom, common sense and they are adamant it’s right because they saw it on YouTube.

Same with adults or elderly people who vote based on something they saw in the daily mail or generally online

Always interesting how the young gens have expectations to be informed about politics to be able to vote

Go join the army as soon as you finish your GCSEs but god forbid you get the right to vote

 

[emm]

I have to say in my opinion the odds of that happening are extremely slim.

So much of what's happened over the past decade seemed impossible though didn't it, both ibside and outside of politics, a slim chance doesn't seem that slim to me anymore

 

[IGiveUp22]

Always interesting how the young gens have expectations to be informed about politics to be able to vote

I know it wasn’t me you quoted but I did earlier suggest my thoughts that there should be something dedicated to it in schools if they’re lower in the age and I still stand by that. It might not make any difference as you’ve pointed it out but surely giving them the bare minimum and sign posts to recourses to go look at in their own time is much better than them having nothing at all other than social media/their parents. There has been posts since that schools do cover it but I never had it when I was at school and I didn’t know the first thing about politics when I turned voting age.

it’s only really this election (a little bit for the last) that I really got stuck and in and did more research etc.

I don’t think it’s a bad thing to want to help younger people understand what they’re voting for and I wish there was a way to deliverer something similar to grown adults. It might not make a difference but it’s a starting point

 

[kazizzle]

I think 16 and 17 year olds should be able to vote. If the issue is that they aren’t educated or mature enough, why is it all of a sudden different the moment they turn 18? I learned about politics in school - we did a mock election at one point. At not long turned 17 I was living over an hour away from home at university - fully responsible for myself and not a child incapable of making informed decisions.

If you gave young people the chance to vote instead of dismissing them all they might surprise you by actually going out and doing the research as a lot do actually care about their future and want to make a difference. 75% of 16-17 year olds voted in the Scottish independence referendum - and the stats show that they were engaged voters making up their own minds and not just blindly following what their parents told them to do.

 

[IGiveUp22]

Where are all these schools that taught politics?! Was mine just tit or am I that old that times have massively changed since I was there?

I’m for them voting btw, just think there does definitely need to have something covered but I’d also like them to have mortgages covered, interest rates, credit cards/debt etc also covered in school

 

[SaLou]

I think 16 and 17 year olds should be able to vote. If the issue is that they aren’t educated or mature enough, why is it all of a sudden different the moment they turn 18? I learned about politics in school - we did a mock election at one point. At not long turned 17 I was living over an hour away from home at university - fully responsible for myself and not a child incapable of making informed decisions.

If you gave young people the chance to vote instead of dismissing them all they might surprise you by actually going out and doing the research as a lot do actually care about their future and want to make a difference. 75% of 16-17 year olds voted in the Scottish independence referendum - and the stats show that they were engaged voters making up their own minds and not just blindly following what their parents told them to do.

It's not suddenly different but you could say that about anything that people are suddenly legally able to do at certain ages though. If 16 why not 15? And on we go.
Having it at the age where people are legally adults makes sense, to me anyway.

 

[pommobear]

On the topic of housing - as a leaseholder, service charge and ground rent is daylight robbery! Being charged for breathing is nuts and, turns out, insanely expensive!

So much of what's happened over the past decade seemed impossible though didn't it, both ibside and outside of politics, a slim chance doesn't seem that slim to me anymore

Did it? I can't think of anything that's particularly surprised me over the past decade.