Things everyone loves but you hate! #9

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ElectricDreams

ElectricDreams

I got a job in a nursery once and only found out 2 months into the role when Ofsted came knocking that they hadn't received my reference from my previous employer (a school!) The manager had me go scraping around for someone, anyone, to give me a reference so it would be on my file and Ofsted wouldn't pull them for it. Fortunately I had been a childminder before that and had dozens of parents to call on for a reference but don't know what more I could have done if I hadn't?!

Alarm bells should have rung in that job much sooner when they were keen for me work before my DBS had come through!
 
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catsandsoup

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DiscoBiscuit said:
I lost a job over my previous employer not supplying a reference. The new job said passing probation was subject to references, they requested 3 times, she ignored them. So despite the fact I was actually doing a bloody good job, they let me go because it was company policy.

I'd seen reference requests be ignored by her in the past, purely because she couldn't be arsed, and I'd never given her any reason not to give me a good reference. So I lost a job due to someone's laziness and a ridiculous policy.
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I had a previous employer who refused references, luckily, her company was known for it locally, so we used to provide ones for each other from whoever was next senior (e.g. manager won't, so head nursery nurse did). Also worked at a school where my line manager refused, you had to send a signed letter to HR saying you gave permission for them to provide the dates you were there, they wouldn't do anymore, even if you'd been there a decade.

Education is getting silly, now, though, I think some say that due to safeguarding, they want literally every job you've ever had, not just the last ten years or so. Good luck getting hold of Primark's paper records from 1999 or finding some nursery that went out of business! :rolleyes:
 
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Phil Anne Throw Pee

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hehehe said:
I think employers are only expected to confirm you worked with them for the time period you stated on your CV, they can't comment on whether you were a good employee or not or whether you were fired or disciplined. That's where disclosures and other vetting checks come in.
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That's not true at all and is a common myth. Referees can say anything, even if negative, as long as they can back up their statement as fact, i.e. 'Jane was subject to a disciplinary procedure for swearing and acting aggressively towards a colleague'. They would then need to show documentation of this event on their files to substantiate it and if they could, fine, if not, could be subject to a lawsuit. Some companies have a policy of providing confirmation of dates of employment only but it is not true that references cannot be bad against a person - they can,as long as that information can be formally verified.
 
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Rosie34567-2

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Phil Anne Throw Pee said:
That's not true at all and is a common myth. Referees can say anything, even if negative, as long as they can back up their statement as fact, i.e. 'Jane was subject to a disciplinary procedure for swearing and acting aggressively towards a colleague'. They would then need to show documentation of this event on their files to substantiate it and if they could, fine, if not, could be subject to a lawsuit. Some companies have a policy of providing confirmation of dates of employment only but it is not true that references cannot be bad against a person - they can,as long as that information can be formally verified.
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Yeah I agree. It also depends on where you live (and in the US it can also vary from state to state). Plus people break the law all the time. It’s one of those things where, even if it’s illegal, it still happens.

Also employers sometimes do “backdoor references,” where they happen to know someone at the applicant’s company. If it’s unofficial they can technically say whatever they want.
 
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hehehe

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Ballet flats.

Mainly because they look good on everyone except me with my shapeless Hobbit feet.
 
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ClockworkDolly

ClockworkDolly

hehehe said:
Ballet flats.

Mainly because they look good on everyone except me with my shapeless Hobbit feet.
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My toes are always exposed with them, ridiculous things they are. There should be more coverage on the toe part of the shoe. I might as well wear sandals!
 
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ClockworkDolly

ClockworkDolly

GinaLianosdeckofcards said:
And fags . My maths teachers were the worst. The woman had grey teeth offset by heather shimmer lipstick lol,if you're a woman of a certain age, you'll know the shade I mean 😂
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My Maths teacher stunk of fags and I made the mistake several times of asking her how to do such-and-such sum and her looming over me filling the air with her ashtray stench! 🤢 Everybody remembers her for stinking of fags. 😆
 
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ClockworkDolly

ClockworkDolly

MrsSlocombe said:
Charity shopping. The thought of looking through and touching other people's stuff almost makes me feel physically ill.
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I will buy old tables and chairs, but clothes, that’s a big NO. I was given hand-me-downs and charity shop clothes a lot when I was a child and I can now never wear clothes worn by other people. If I buy something new, the first thing I do is wash it, as people would have tried in on in the shop.
 
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ClockworkDolly

ClockworkDolly

GamerLlama87 said:
Tribute acts. Especially when it's a particularly naff one at a local free event. Paul from down the road shoving on a very slightly sticky fake 'tache off Temu and warbling out We Wil Rock You omg just stop 🤢 embarrassing just typing it out
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I dislike them too. It’s the Temu version of the real thing.
 
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Weefa

hehehe said:
Ballet flats.

Mainly because they look good on everyone except me with my shapeless Hobbit feet.
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Ballet flats and loafers

They look ridiculous on me.

And I can't walk properly in them, it always feels like they are going to drop off.
 
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klarakluckbag

klarakluckbag

DiscoBiscuit said:
I lost a job over my previous employer not supplying a reference. The new job said passing probation was subject to references, they requested 3 times, she ignored them. So despite the fact I was actually doing a bloody good job, they let me go because it was company policy.

I'd seen reference requests be ignored by her in the past, purely because she couldn't be arsed, and I'd never given her any reason not to give me a good reference. So I lost a job due to someone's laziness and a ridiculous policy.
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Me too 😡. I applied for a job in the hospital where I already worked, in a same wage band role but in a different department. My line manager needed to give "approval" for the move, and they also wanted a reference, albeit an informal one, just to confirm that I was punctual, not a skiver, etc, etc. My line manager had the request on her desk for 3 weeks, she reckons she "completely forgot" about it, despite me reminding her weekly, and the nurse in charge of the new ward also calling her. She had previously encouraged me to apply for the role, so god knows why she didn't do the paperwork, she wasn't lazy, but she was very disorganised. She did apologise, but it was the last straw for me, I ended up applying for a job somewhere completely different.
(I've been here for almost 20 years now, so I guess she did me a favour in the end)
 
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