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I think Eugenie and Beatrice looked lovely at the wedding. I feel sorry for them being under the spotlight because of their father’s behaviour.
 
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I think Eugenie and Beatrice looked lovely at the wedding. I feel sorry for them being under the spotlight because of their father’s behaviour.
Why do people feel sorry for them? The media often refer to them as "the girls," as though they are still young children who don't know any better. It's similar to how Harry is endlessly portrayed as the boy who walked behind his mother's coffin, despite the fact that he is now a grown man responsible for his own choices.

Beatrice and Eugenie are adults. Beatrice was reportedly heavily involved in arranging her father's Newsnight interview. Both sisters visited Jeffrey Epstein after he had already been convicted and released from prison, when they were adults. They have also faced criticism over accepting money/gifts and maintaining relationships with questionable individuals.

They also frequently use their Princess titles while carrying out private business activities, particularly in the Middle East, and continue to benefit from living in royal residences without paying a penny.

At some point, people have to be judged on their own actions rather than being treated as perpetual victims of their parents' behaviour. You can acknowledge that Andrew's scandal cast a shadow over them while also recognising that they are responsible for the decisions they make as adults.
 
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E and B always get a raw deal re what they wear after their choice of outfits at W and C's wedding. E's not in the same league as the willowy, elegant Kate and she takes after her mother in terms of her build but she's heavily pregnant and no doubt wanted comfort rather than style at the wedding. They both must feel like pariahs in terms of public opinion though. Only they know how involved or not they were re Epstein. Can't be easy reentering the Royal fray in public.
 
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Why do people feel sorry for them? The media often refer to them as "the girls," as though they are still young children who don't know any better. It's similar to how Harry is endlessly portrayed as the boy who walked behind his mother's coffin, despite the fact that he is now a grown man responsible for his own choices.

Beatrice and Eugenie are adults. Beatrice was reportedly heavily involved in arranging her father's Newsnight interview. Both sisters visited Jeffrey Epstein after he had already been convicted and released from prison, when they were adults. They have also faced criticism over accepting money/gifts and maintaining relationships with questionable individuals.

They also frequently use their Princess titles while carrying out private business activities, particularly in the Middle East, and continue to benefit from living in royal residences without paying a penny.

At some point, people have to be judged on their own actions rather than being treated as perpetual victims of their parents' behaviour. You can acknowledge that Andrew's scandal cast a shadow over them while also recognising that they are responsible for the decisions they make as adults.
I can only speak for myself but I feel sorry for them because I grew up with a girl who was in a similar situation to them.

Her family was very wealthy and her parents were "pillars of the community" until they weren't. The mum and dad controlled everything about what she and her brother did, it was all about maintaining an image; from the way they dressed to who they were friends with, hobbies they had etc.

When she was late teens/early twenties stuff started coming out about people around the parents and what they were getting up to, mainly that they were crooks and were defrauding people. She and her brother were still forced to attend events by her parents because they controlled the money and they needed their cash for uni. They threatened to cut both of them off if they didn't comply.

To cut a very long story short, her parents were found to be stealing from their church and she and her brother ended up getting tarred with the same brush by some parts of the community.

Both children were absolutely lovely, were thoroughly ashamed of what their parents did and had nothing whatsoever to do with their schemes. Everyone that knew them tried to make it clear that there was no way they were involved but some people wouldn't listen and hounded them. It made both of their lives hell for a long time and the end they both had to leave to get any normal life.

I just see the parallels with what Beatrice and Eugenie are going through, although they're on a much wider stage and much more in the public eye.
 
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I can only speak for myself but I feel sorry for them because I grew up with a girl who was in a similar situation to them.

Her family was very wealthy and her parents were "pillars of the community" until they weren't. The mum and dad controlled everything about what she and her brother did, it was all about maintaining an image; from the way they dressed to who they were friends with, hobbies they had etc.

When she was late teens/early twenties stuff started coming out about people around the parents and what they were getting up to, mainly that they were crooks and were defrauding people. She and her brother were still forced to attend events by her parents because they controlled the money and they needed their cash for uni. They threatened to cut both of them off if they didn't comply.

To cut a very long story short, her parents were found to be stealing from their church and she and her brother ended up getting tarred with the same brush by some parts of the community.

Both children were absolutely lovely, were thoroughly ashamed of what their parents did and had nothing whatsoever to do with their schemes. Everyone that knew them tried to make it clear that there was no way they were involved but some people wouldn't listen and hounded them. It made both of their lives hell for a long time and the end they both had to leave to get any normal life.

I just see the parallels with what Beatrice and Eugenie are going through, although they're on a much wider stage and much more in the public eye.
I understand why your friend's experience would make you sympathetic towards Beatrice and Eugenie, and I agree that children should not be blamed for the actions of their parents. Nobody chooses the family they are born into, and it must be incredibly difficult to have a parent's mistakes follow you around.

Where I differ is that Beatrice and Eugenie are no longer children. They're women in their thirties and have had many years to establish their own identities and make their own decisions. I don't think they should be condemned simply because of Andrew, but I also don't think they should be treated as though they have no agency.

Your friend and her brother were innocent victims of their parents' wrongdoing. In the York sisters' case, some of the criticism directed at them relates not to Andrew's behaviour, but to choices they themselves have made as adults. So, for me, the situations aren't entirely comparable.

I can have sympathy for the position they were born into while still believing they should be accountable for their own actions, just like any other adults.
 
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There was a cool video on how Beatrice headband was made, someone from the kings foundation? I can't find it now.

I liked how they all dressed in spring colours. The blues, tan, yellow.

Except Eugenie but I mean a pass for being pregnant.

Hated her shoes and Sophie's bag tho.
 
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Mia looks suddenly more grown up at twelve, coming up thirteen. She's not in little girl clothes any more, was wearing heels and has had her ears pierced (seen at Christmas at Sandringham). It'll be interesting to see how Princess Charlotte follows; apparently they're close friends despite an age gap of nearly two years and Charlotte is eleven now.
 
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Someone has posted a video on X of a line of police walking alongside the PoW in her carriage with the children, and the same happened in reverse - only her carriage. Is there a security threat or does that always happen?
 
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It was the Funeral of Pamela Hicks today.
Im a bit curious to know why the Hicks family chose today when they knew the Royals would be attending Trooping the Colour.
I fully expected the Royals would go to her funeral.
 
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Someone has posted a video on X of a line of police walking alongside the PoW in her carriage with the children, and the same happened in reverse - only her carriage. Is there a security threat or does that always happen?
I’m not sure but I always feel on edge watching them in the open carriages as they seem so exposed.
 
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According to her daughter India her Ma didn't want a big fuss but cheerful hyms? I read that in Hello magazine. I guess with Royal Ascot etc there's never a blank page in ones diary?
 
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What do you all think of this? The comments on the post aren’t very supportive of the Royals. I’m not sure if I see anger, confusion or being uncomfortable. To me it seems like the children aren’t 100% sure if they should wave to protesters and Kate is watching them. If she waved or looked away then that would have been wrong.

 
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It was the Funeral of Pamela Hicks today.
Im a bit curious to know why the Hicks family chose today when they knew the Royals would be attending Trooping the Colour.
I fully expected the Royals would go to her funeral.
I think that’s the reason they chose the day. There might be a memorial at a later date for the Royals to attend but for the family it would be less stressful having the Royals there as that would include a lot of security, cameras, etc
 
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I think that’s the reason they chose the day. There might be a memorial at a later date for the Royals to attend but for the family it would be less stressful having the Royals there as that would include a lot of security, cameras, etc
Good point.
 
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