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I'm going to be VERY unpopular here (business as usual to be fair).. Whilst it is pathetic to boo anyone, particularly children, I do feel it's important for the royal children to recognise that not everyone supports the monarchy and they cannot expect unlimited sycophancy their whole lives. I'm sure Kate will have discussed it with them anyway.
 
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Falkor

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George has been boarding occasionally at his current school and Eton has exeat weekends as well as half term etc. (though being Eton they're not called that), so I guess they've tried it out and found it works for him.

One thing I was reading made a point I hadn't thought of - at Eton he won't stand out. There will be boys who come from far richer families, there will be boys who come from far more aristocratic families, and there will be boys who are princes from other countries. It's the closest thing to feeling just like one of the others that he'll probably ever get.
 
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corron

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I'm going to be VERY unpopular here (business as usual to be fair).. Whilst it is pathetic to boo anyone, particularly children, I do feel it's important for the royal children to recognise that not everyone supports the monarchy and they cannot expect unlimited sycophancy their whole lives. I'm sure Kate will have discussed it with them anyway.
People absolutely have the right to protest, and the royal children will no doubt understand that not everyone supports the monarchy. That's part of living in a democracy.

However, I do think it is rather pathetic to boo children. They haven't chosen the family they were born into, and they are not responsible for constitutional debates.

The media can be equally ridiculous. There were around 20 protesters, yet the coverage often made it appear as though there were huge crowds of anti-monarchists. Through selective camera angles and endless reporting, a very small group can seem far larger and more significant than it actually is.

Protest by all means. Criticise the institution if you wish. But booing children achieves nothing and says far more about the adults doing it than the children themselves.
 
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corron

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I think Eugenie and Beatrice looked lovely at the wedding. I feel sorry for them being under the spotlight because of their father’s behaviour.
Why do people feel sorry for them? The media often refer to them as "the girls," as though they are still young children who don't know any better. It's similar to how Harry is endlessly portrayed as the boy who walked behind his mother's coffin, despite the fact that he is now a grown man responsible for his own choices.

Beatrice and Eugenie are adults. Beatrice was reportedly heavily involved in arranging her father's Newsnight interview. Both sisters visited Jeffrey Epstein after he had already been convicted and released from prison, when they were adults. They have also faced criticism over accepting money/gifts and maintaining relationships with questionable individuals.

They also frequently use their Princess titles while carrying out private business activities, particularly in the Middle East, and continue to benefit from living in royal residences without paying a penny.

At some point, people have to be judged on their own actions rather than being treated as perpetual victims of their parents' behaviour. You can acknowledge that Andrew's scandal cast a shadow over them while also recognising that they are responsible for the decisions they make as adults.
 
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FenellaTheWitch

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That poster is a huge Meghan and Harry fan, probably a paid up member of the Sussex Squad, I muted her long ago as she is just incredibly biased and will find any excuse to bash the RF.
Reading the comments I can see that.

Regardless of your political opinions, booing kids is a bit pathetic.
 
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Tiggy23

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Reading the comments I can see that.

Regardless of your political opinions, booing kids is a bit pathetic.
The' Abolish The Monarchy' brigade, always turn up whenever there is a royal event or walkabout with their yellow placards, there are usually about 40, maybe 50 of them who always who turn up in their yellow tops. Their signs get bigger and they try to make as much noise as they can but their numbers don't seem to increase. They are just a pathetic bunch in my opinion and booing children they just sink lower.
 
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corron

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I can only speak for myself but I feel sorry for them because I grew up with a girl who was in a similar situation to them.

Her family was very wealthy and her parents were "pillars of the community" until they weren't. The mum and dad controlled everything about what she and her brother did, it was all about maintaining an image; from the way they dressed to who they were friends with, hobbies they had etc.

When she was late teens/early twenties stuff started coming out about people around the parents and what they were getting up to, mainly that they were crooks and were defrauding people. She and her brother were still forced to attend events by her parents because they controlled the money and they needed their cash for uni. They threatened to cut both of them off if they didn't comply.

To cut a very long story short, her parents were found to be stealing from their church and she and her brother ended up getting tarred with the same brush by some parts of the community.

Both children were absolutely lovely, were thoroughly ashamed of what their parents did and had nothing whatsoever to do with their schemes. Everyone that knew them tried to make it clear that there was no way they were involved but some people wouldn't listen and hounded them. It made both of their lives hell for a long time and the end they both had to leave to get any normal life.

I just see the parallels with what Beatrice and Eugenie are going through, although they're on a much wider stage and much more in the public eye.
I understand why your friend's experience would make you sympathetic towards Beatrice and Eugenie, and I agree that children should not be blamed for the actions of their parents. Nobody chooses the family they are born into, and it must be incredibly difficult to have a parent's mistakes follow you around.

Where I differ is that Beatrice and Eugenie are no longer children. They're women in their thirties and have had many years to establish their own identities and make their own decisions. I don't think they should be condemned simply because of Andrew, but I also don't think they should be treated as though they have no agency.

Your friend and her brother were innocent victims of their parents' wrongdoing. In the York sisters' case, some of the criticism directed at them relates not to Andrew's behaviour, but to choices they themselves have made as adults. So, for me, the situations aren't entirely comparable.

I can have sympathy for the position they were born into while still believing they should be accountable for their own actions, just like any other adults.
 
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neroli

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Lady Pamela expressed her wishes clearly. She wanted a small private funeral attended by those closest to her, nothing more.
Good for her. She got what she wanted.
 
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I'm going to be VERY unpopular here (business as usual to be fair).. Whilst it is pathetic to boo anyone, particularly children, I do feel it's important for the royal children to recognise that not everyone supports the monarchy and they cannot expect unlimited sycophancy their whole lives. I'm sure Kate will have discussed it with them anyway.
No I agree. People have the right to protest the Royals.
 
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MrsDimSum

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I have to laugh, though. He is their king whether they like it or not.
They can chant and wave their banners all they want. It won't change a thing.
He’s probably pretty glad the don’t want him as their king. I wouldn’t want to be associated with folks who spend their Saturday shouting, jeering and intimidating 3 kids aged 12 and below
 
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Miss Begotten

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Yeah, you could be right, it could be a personal safety issue. It also could absolutely be a vengeful ex as well :) (not that I care about the reason, I care about the poor woman who was nearly killed!)
If it is just a vengeful ex I don’t know how she can live with herself.
If it hadn’t been for the bus driver swerving the victim could well have been killed.
This guy deserves a lot of credit.
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Glaschelle

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Nice to see that not all Royal sex offenders can get their mummy to buy them out of trouble.
His mum is knee deep in the Epstein scandal so maybe not the best role model.

Plus they've been trying to get him a lighter sentence cos his mum is ill.

And personally I feel 4yrs for rape isn't much of a sentence.
 
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Chita

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It was the Funeral of Pamela Hicks today.
Im a bit curious to know why the Hicks family chose today when they knew the Royals would be attending Trooping the Colour.
I fully expected the Royals would go to her funeral.
 
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Miss Begotten

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I'm not sure, but I think that there is no onus on anyone to actually offer information or help the police in any way. I think it's regarded as being different to actually concealing a weapon (for instance) on behalf of somebody else, or lying to cover for them - that sort of thing. I think if she could claim some sot of deniability ("I didn't realise until recently when he said . . . " etc she wouldn't be prosecutable.

I could well be wrong - IANAL - but I have a feeling that there is a fine distinction in law. Also, she may have offered the information on condition that she herself wasn't charged.
I think legally you’re probably absolutely right.
But I find it virtually impossible to believe that she didnt recognise him immediately when the cctv footage was released. I think she’s almost certainly known all along, although her reasons for keeping quiet are impossible to guess. If you’re in a relationship with the kind of person who would do something like this perhaps she was concerned about her own safety. Who knows.
 
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Chita

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Saw this pic taken at Ascot and thought I would share. It's lovely...
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