The Manosphere

[qqwertyy]

I’m sick of hearing about it now to be honest. Lonely women have always been laughed at and called cat ladies - nobody cares about a female loneliness epidemic because we don’t turn into violent incels.

Women have been talking about these issues and male VAWG for years, and now Stephen Graham and Louis Theroux (don’t get me wrong, I love them both) have mentioned it, it’s all over the news and on the school curriculum.

Men are lonely, we get it. Go to therapy and leave women out of it. It’s only come to light because women are raising their standards and refusing to engage with losers and they have realised they don’t like it.

 

[qqwertyy]

The men leading the manosphere don’t care about other men’s mental health though, they just want to make money. If it was harmless online nonsense we could just laugh and move on, but women are literally killed because of misogyny. I couldn’t care less if they locked themselves in their parents’ basements for life and just wanked over making money and trading crypto and buying cars, but it’s always about ‘empowering’ men at the expense of women.

 

[Jen667]

I watched it last night. I thought the film was a real return to form for Theroux, who has felt like he's been dialling it in on some of his more recent stuff. He's such an expert at saying little and just letting the idiots he interviewed trip themselves up with their own words.

I struggle to have any sympathy for anyone that falls for their scams and gives these meatheads money. If your definition of 'success' is a six pack and dating a porn star then you get what you deserve. I find the whole psychology behind it fascinating. A lot of them coming from troubled /fatherless homes. I imagine most of them faced a lot of rejection from women before they embraced the manosphere too.

 

[qqwertyy]

I really like HS I like how he speaks the truth in a lot of what he says. The lefties like Louis and Piers couldn’t deal with it because they’re usually talking to people that are full of shit

Do you know how ridiculous this sounds? What ‘truth’ is a grifter tiktoker saying that nobody else is?

Yay for sexism, homophobia and anti semitism because these libtards are getting owned

 

[byefeliciax]

Piers Morgan absolute lefty

I’d have never put ‘Piers Morgan’ and ‘absolute lefty’ in the same sentence

 

[Jen667]

I thought Ed Matty came across as a violent, coked up moron. I can't see how following any of these men will do anything to benefit anyone's mental wellbeing

 

[byefeliciax]

My take-home from Inside The Manosphere was that society needs more emotionally and physically available fathers.

The men drawn into this red pill bullshit have a common theme in their lives: absent or abusive fathers. We’ve framed “daddy issues” (hate that term, but I’ll use it because we all know what it means) inherently as a woman’s problem but it’s abundantly clear that a lack of positive masculine influence affects boys and girls equally as negatively. I look at these manosphere men and think how on earth could a woman be happy to settle for one-sided monogamy, humiliation, abuse, breadcrumbing and disloyalty just as long as there’s cash, and then I realise, many of them probably have absent and abusive fathers too. It’s just appears perpetual cycle of men with daddy issues exploiting women with daddy issues, ad infinitum.

We need to reframe what it is to be “masculine”: proud, protective, providing, with softness, accountability, and emotional integrity. Masculinity isn’t bullying, berating and blindly chasing billions of dollars at any cost.

 

[TheArtisticMouse]

It really is the male equivalent of an MLM. I thought it interesting the men don’t seem to fully believe what they were saying, yet they manage to brainwash so many impressionable young men. I fear this is the culmination of decades of decline for the white working class, where white working class boys have been the worst performing demographic in schools for years. They’ve lost all the traditions employment routes in many areas, and many gave up on education. Then reality tv shows like love island came along and that appeared to be the most attractive way for these young men to become “successful”. These influencers are exploiting that. They are basically the Gen Z version of reform.

I actually do agree with them that something in the system is holding these men back, but it’s just late stage capitalism. They use feminism as the blame in the same way the far right blames multiculturalism. They’re two sides of the same very scary coin.

 

[Blueblue123]

I hate lefties lol!!

At the expense of women? There are so many sensible, intelligent non-left people who don't encourage disrespect towards women.

 

[TheArtisticMouse]

I wouldn’t feed the troll guys

 

[Gossipgal.x]

I really like HS I like how he speaks the truth in a lot of what he says. The lefties like Louis and Piers couldn’t deal with it because they’re usually talking to people that are full of shit

 

[TheArtisticMouse]

Men don’t talk to each other properly - women chat about everything but men friendships (at least judging by my husband) seem limited to sport, cinema, music etc, or it’s a game of oneupmanship. They don’t let themselves be vulnerable with each other.

 

[ItsmeImtheproblemitsme]

I’m sick of hearing about it now to be honest. Lonely women have always been laughed at and called cat ladies - nobody cares about a female loneliness epidemic because we don’t turn into violent incels.

Women have been talking about these issues and male VAWG for years, and now Stephen Graham and Louis Theroux (don’t get me wrong, I love them both) have mentioned it, it’s all over the news and on the school curriculum.

Men are lonely, we get it. Go to therapy and leave women out of it. It’s only come to light because women are raising their standards and refusing to engage with losers and they have realised they don’t like it.

incels be incelling

 

[byefeliciax]

I think alot of the rise of incels and this manosphere along with increasing violence against women is due to the fact that men now feel demasculated by women, most women are now better educated than men and independent and the majority no longer need to depend on a man. This is men trying to reassert their dominance because they feel threatened by women.

I do agree this is a factor, but I also believe too many men (whether consciously or subconsciously) blame women for their feeling emasculated when in actual fact the real culprits are economic turbulence and capitalism.

I think about all of the positive masculine traits I see in the good men in my life (past and present) and it’s all the things like ‘providing for your family’ and ‘teaching the next generation life skills’. We now face an economic crisis whereby too many men cannot solely provide for their families anymore and a woman’s work is no longer a choice and bonus salary but a necessity. Capitalism has restructured our priorities, and I can’t think of many young men with practical skills I could call upon to help hang a shelf or change a tyre anymore (let alone teach their own kids how) and so I’d either YouTube how to do it myself or call a “proper dad”.

I feel like women have levelled up through the generations and found strength in redefining femininity. We can earn our own money, we can hang our own shelves, we can wear trousers, we can do all of this whilst still carrying and raising babies and managing a home, and meanwhile too many men have regressed back to being emotionally stunted cavemen who refuse to redefine their masculinity and still see it as some pissing contest. With progression of women’s rights, the world could have benefited, but instead of working with women, too many men are choosing to work against them. They seem to want a trad wife, but economic turbulence and capitalism won’t allow them to be a trad husband, and so then they blame LeFtiEs aNd FeMiNiStS instead of billionaires, unrealistic lifestyle influencers and… themselves. It’s time to accept that “trad” doesn’t work anymore, pull together, and grow level the fuck up.

I want “masculine pride” to mean more dads on school runs, more men feeling like safe spaces to women and children, more men in therapy, more men believing women when they say his mate gr*aped her, more men calling out misogyny, more men doing their own cleaning. Unresolved anger and fragile ego is not the definition of masculinity.

 

[Ekathrina]

Piers Morgan is most definitely not ‘left’. At one point most people would have described him as fairly right wing and conservative, but he seems to be a bit more of a centrist these days.

 

[youRjokingHunz]

Was brilliant watching . LT was great to watch as he let these silly immature men make themselves look like tits..

HS has some vile opinions on women and he revealed himself as ignorant and clearly running a pyramid store scheme to get money off even more stupid men

 

[Gossipgal.x]

Who is Piers?

Piers Morgan absolute lefty

 

[Tangerine Dream]

I've not watched it yet but I've seen on Tattle posts from mothers despairing that their young son(s) swallow the Andrew Tate type stuff and I can't imagine how heartbreaking that must be as a parent.

Some has gone desperately wrong and I don't what it is or if it can be fixed.

 

[Jen667]

I really like HS I like how he speaks the truth in a lot of what he says. The lefties like Louis and Piers couldn’t deal with it because they’re usually talking to people that are full of shit

What truth does he speak?

 

[WitchyGrab]

I have always been envious of ‚lefties‘. I am right handed but as a child, I really wanted to be left handed and tried my best to swap sides. That is what you meant, right? Are you subscribing to the archaic religious view that the left hand is connected to the divil and that is the reason for the hate?


(I am taking the piss, as I am a socialist)