The Archie Battersbee case #4

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The hospital estimated it was about 40 minutes or an hour before he had an adequate oxygen. Imagine that damage when it's around 4 minutes before you sustain permanent brain damage. He hasn't got a hope of making any recovery never did he was dead that night in April when he was found.
Is this Archie you’re referencing? So where was the mother for all that time? Their house surely isn’t so large that she’d be in the same house and not realise he had thrown himself over the banister and was hanging? So she must have been out?
 
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Don’t quote me but I also read that Archie was once given ear drops instead of eye drops which she used (without reading the bottle???)and then threatened legal action. Also years ago when her eldest child was a toddler he fell onto some glass from a smashed BT phone box and this made all the newspapers with the fuss she kicked up. The story says he wasn’t hurt but she enhanced it to claim he could have slit his throat etc. TBH if you see broken glass on the floor why do you let your toddler anywhere near it? Because there’s publicity to get out of it I suppose. I think there seems to be a pattern of attention seeking and like you said ‘fighting authority’… 🤔
Yes she’s a prolific compo con artist!
 
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People claiming to have ocd because of being clean and organised make my blood boil ! I have ocd and it’s not just about cleaning (it can be ) I’m terrified of my house catching fire it stops me at times leaving the house because I can not stop checking all the plugs are off and no fire hazards are left ! And when I go out and smell fire I go straight home because I have a thing in my head that tells me it’s my house that’s on fire
Me too! Takes me ages to leave the house. It’s taps as well for me. Alongside loads of other things constantly. But yeah, taps and plugs are the bane of my life. It’s easier to stay at home sometimes. But then when I’m at home I’m checking the front and back doors are locked everytime I get up.
Actually l be fair I’m ok with smelling smoke but if I leave and I haven’t checked something ‘right’ I have to go back
 
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If the decaying was showing on the outside of his body,of what it is inside.This would have been over a long time ago.(I know it's a horrible thing to say)
I don’t know if I’m allowed to print this example so apologies if not and I’ll delete it but it’s worth a Google as this mother was as bad as Hollie Dance. The girls name was Jahi McMath and what happened to her was beyond belief. I think towards the end her mother put her sunglasses on because of decomposition… 😢. I only came across it because of what happened to our son, I was Googling examples..
 
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Is this Archie you’re referencing? So where was the mother for all that time? Their house surely isn’t so large that she’d be in the same house and not realise he had thrown himself over the banister and was hanging? So she must have been out?
She’s told so many lies, even she doesn’t know the truth anymore.
 
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Hollie herself escaped a 3 month jail term for GBH against two women. Ended up with community service instead, she’s no stranger to standing up for herself in court.
I found it very amusing that in the article I saw, her defence in the GBH incident was basically 'but they fought back!'.

Coming back to the main topic though, at this point I'm just tired of hearing her nonsense. 'We've not been shown any care or consideration' and 'we've not been given any time' - despite the fact it's been around four months - and around three months since they initially declared him braindead? 'We've been dragged through the courts' - no dear, the only person dragging this through the courts is yourself. 'They're not respecting Archies rights', while simultaneously claiming that their opinion and their 'rights' are all that matters. 'We were left not knowing what will happen' - when the hospital has given them the clearest timetable anyone could ever hope for as to what would happen and when, at every step of the way.

It looks like the media are finally beginning to push back a little, but they need to do more. Part of me hopes that she continues after it's all over, just to see what happens once she's no longer protected by the fear of public backlash for criticising a 'grieving mother'. At the very least, I hope the hospital does proceed with legal action for the harassment and abuse they've been subjected to these last few months; their staff deserve that.

Edit \\ Removed redundant phrasing. It's been a tiring day.
 
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The comments are largely in favour of the court in the Daily Mail today, only a few are in support of the family now.
 
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We’ve unfortunately experienced this with our son and I wouldn’t wish it on anyone but when we saw the brain stem test we knew our son was gone. Clearly Hollie was and still is in denial, but you can’t bury your head in the sand and hope it goes away. Nobody wants to accept their child has gone and I hope no one feels the pain of walking out of the hospital without them but the doctors and nurses in the critical care units work tirelessly to save lives. They don’t want a child to die and believe me they feel your pain, they were in tears along with us and then they do it again the next day. My son’s organs saved four peoples lives including a baby girl and little boy and it brings me comfort knowing they are still alive over four years later because of my son. Sadly this won’t be a possibility for Archie now because of the deterioration of his body. Another thing cases like this bring up is did we not fight hard enough for our child? Did we not love him as much as Hollie does because we let him go. It’s hard but our son died looking the same as he did when he went out that night not a shadow of his true self as I would imagine Archie looks like now…. And just to add this all happened on Christmas Eve as well just to add to the heartbreak….. 💔
I am so sorry for the loss of your beautiful son. What a hero he is even in death to have saved all of those lives meaning his legacy lives on in them 4 people. I am in awe of you and your family. What amazing, selfless parents you are. You should be so proud of yourselves for how you conducted yourself at what was the worst period of your life. Absolutely gorgeous parents. He would be so proud of you ❤
 
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Can someone update whats happening now after the hearing? Is there a new day/time or appeal?
 
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We’ve unfortunately experienced this with our son and I wouldn’t wish it on anyone but when we saw the brain stem test we knew our son was gone. Clearly Hollie was and still is in denial, but you can’t bury your head in the sand and hope it goes away. Nobody wants to accept their child has gone and I hope no one feels the pain of walking out of the hospital without them but the doctors and nurses in the critical care units work tirelessly to save lives. They don’t want a child to die and believe me they feel your pain, they were in tears along with us and then they do it again the next day. My son’s organs saved four peoples lives including a baby girl and little boy and it brings me comfort knowing they are still alive over four years later because of my son. Sadly this won’t be a possibility for Archie now because of the deterioration of his body. Another thing cases like this bring up is did we not fight hard enough for our child? Did we not love him as much as Hollie does because we let him go. It’s hard but our son died looking the same as he did when he went out that night not a shadow of his true self as I would imagine Archie looks like now…. And just to add this all happened on Christmas Eve as well just to add to the heartbreak….. 💔
Thank you for sharing his story with us. I know the feeling of walking down the long hospital corridors to leave your child behind for the last time, feeling empty but yet so heavy with the absolute pain of heartbreak. You loved him so, so much and that is clear from what is written above. ❤
 
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What’s the likelihood of the Supreme Court allowing the appeal tomorrow morning?
 
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Do we know that Archie had MH struggles? And reached out for help and was denied / missed / left waiting etc?

I just feel we need to be a little careful as I worry that once he is gone, mum will want someone else to blame so then some poor MH professional / social worker / GP / anyone will get dragged through an ordeal, when maybe he was never noted to be “in need” of MH care? Only clues could have been his online accounts.

I’m probably way off, but have seen too many people clutching at straws to blame anyone and everyone, ie reading school reports and social notes trying to find an interaction from 7 years ago that may have missed suicidal ideation etc.
 
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People claiming to have ocd because of being clean and organised make my blood boil ! I have ocd and it’s not just about cleaning (it can be ) I’m terrified of my house catching fire it stops me at times leaving the house because I can not stop checking all the plugs are off and no fire hazards are left ! And when I go out and smell fire I go straight home because I have a thing in my head that tells me it’s my house that’s on fire
My ocd is very similar. So I can empathise.
 
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What time and where is she speaking to Jeremy Kyle?

he's the last person I'd want fighting my corner for sympathy and support.
 
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My ocd is very similar. So I can empathise.
Same. Mine was triggered by a house fire and for years I took my straighteners and iron to work with me otherwise I would have never been able to leave the house for checking that they were off.
 
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