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I agree we have gone off on a tangent and this is perhaps separate to the main issue of the attacks but people are upset and annoyed at everything being labelled far right. There are some planned to protest today in NI and it has already been described as a riot and not a protest and that is before anyone has even shown up.
It’s sad that people now know that it’s going to turn into a riot before anything else. I’m all for getting your voice across and being heard IF it’s in a respectful manner which can be done by protest. These people are seeking revenge against people who aren’t white with a great Britain flag tattooed on their fod. I couldn’t imagine wanting to hurt your own police officers, burn out cars of people you know, ruin your streets where you live knowing you won’t be heard because you’ve made yourself look a absolute tosser
 
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Horrific scenes in Sunderland and Liverpool. I genuinely want to know how looting shops is making a stand against immigration? It is frightening what is happening. Watched a few of the TikTok lives and people just seemed to be out for a jolly.
 
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I just think the government are rubbing their hands in glee at the distraction. We are all eating each other alive while our supports and services collapse around us.
 
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Horrific scenes in Sunderland and Liverpool. I genuinely want to know how looting shops is making a stand against immigration? It is frightening what is happening. Watched a few of the TikTok lives and people just seemed to be out for a jolly.
Because there's no one to stop them. It also happened a lot during the George Floyd 'protests/riots' in America. They're breaking the law anyway so why not rob a few things while there's the opportunity. It's not right as it's their community they're destroying but then they probably don't care enough
 
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They said ‘seemingly’ that has been asked which is different to people actually asking it. I have no doubt there will be people out who will cause distruction over the coming days but that doesn’t mean anyone who goes against a narrative is far right. And i would say the majority who go out to march are just working class people who probably don’t have the luxury to chat tit on tattle. I don’t want to see anyone hurt and hopefully it all dies down.
I’m a bit lost by the line that these people are working class who don’t have the luxury to chat on tattle. What exactly do you mean by that?
 
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I’m a bit lost by the line that these people are working class who don’t have the luxury to chat on tattle. What exactly do you mean by that?
I probably didn’t word it very well but the point I was trying to get across was that it is easy for us to talk about what is happening but they are just being dismissed as far right when they could just be hard working people who are upset.
 
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hard working people who are upset.
I'll tell you who's 'upset' - the families who lost 3 little girls at the start of the week, and those of the others who are still in hospital. The mother of one who had to almost immediately take time out of her grieving process to plead with people not to do exactly what they went ahead and did. Perhaps instead of forefronting the 'feelings' of these thugs causing damage, fear and chaos up and down the country, we could respect the wishes of the actual victims here.
 
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Dismissing the criminality because ‘they’re just upset’ is hypocrisy at its finest
 
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I am not far right nor racist. However, if the basic infrastructure of a country is struggling, or girls are being groomed and grape, or knife attacks are on the increase, or mental health crises are going unmonitored, you should be allowed to drill down and start to find the causes so you can treat the problems, without being labelled at all.
Yep really drilling down, finding the cause and treating problems 🤦🏼‍♀️

Basic infrastructure is struggling - riots making things 100x worse ✅
Girls being groomed and grape - blame all immigrants when these crimes are also committed by white British men on a daily basis ✅
Knife attacks on the increase - go out and harm police officers and dogs with bricks ✅
Mental health crises going unmonitored - clog up NHS resources with with idiots bricking their mates in the balls ✅
 
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I'll tell you who's 'upset' - the families who lost 3 little girls at the start of the week, and those of the others who are still in hospital. The mother of one who had to almost immediately take time out of her grieving process to plead with people not to do exactly what they went ahead and did. Perhaps instead of forefronting the 'feelings' of these thugs causing damage, fear and chaos up and down the country, we could respect the wishes of the actual victims here.
I'm my opinion, you are using this as an excuse to shut people up. People who are quite rightly concerned, affected by, and yes, some victims too, of the on going, unchartered immigration happening in our country.
 
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I'm my opinion, you are using this as an excuse to shut people up. People who are quite rightly concerned, affected by, and yes, some victims too, of the on going, unchartered immigration happening in our country.
Was the mother who asked for it to stop 'using' her daughter's death to 'shut people up'?
 
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Dismissing the criminality because ‘they’re just upset’ is hypocrisy at its finest
I’m not dismissing criminality and I probably don’t put my posts across eloquently enough. There were many on that protest who aren’t criminals.
 
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... you should be allowed to drill down and start to find the causes so you can treat the problems, without being labelled at all...
"Drilling down" implies a level of intellectual ability not possessed by the people promoting or taking part in the riots, calling for a general strike or insurrection until they get their way on social media or hiding behind their 'legitimate concerns' to excuse criminals. The problem with all these people is that they don't need to 'drill down' to understand the problem because they are sure they know the cause. Actually they don't want to 'drill down' (even if they were capable) because they don't want anybody or anything to challenge their belief that it's all the fault of immigrants. The people that are on the streets rioting, attacking people who are not white and attacking, burning and looting their property and places of worship and the people who have posted on tattle about 'rounding people up' are not 'concerned citizens', not interested in 'drilling down' to explore the causes of society's problems; they are racists and far-right morons.
 
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"Drilling down" implies a level of intellectual ability not possessed by the people promoting or taking part in the riots, calling for a general strike or insurrection until they get their way on social media or hiding behind their 'legitimate concerns' to excuse criminals. The problem with all these people is that they don't need to 'drill down' to understand the problem because they are sure they know the cause. Actually they don't want to 'drill down' (even if they were capable) because they don't want anybody or anything to challenge their belief that it's all the fault of immigrants. The people that are on the streets rioting, attacking people who are not white and attacking, burning and looting their property and places of worship and the people who have posted on tattle about 'rounding people up' are not 'concerned citizens', not interested in 'drilling down' to explore the causes of society's problems; they are racists and far-right morons.
What’s your thoughts on the George Floyd riots?
 
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I'm my opinion, you are using this as an excuse to shut people up. People who are quite rightly concerned, affected by, and yes, some victims too, of the on going, unchartered immigration happening in our country.
Why are they wearing the girls faces on T-shirts? Hijacking their murders to peddle their own agendas.
 
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