I understand that. Honestly. It IS awful. But people trying to understand why or how doesn't mean they think it any less of an atrocity.
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I know that but I’m saying you can’t compare it to other crimes, it’s too brutal and horrific and too soon, and people are going to have strong views both ways. That’s why there are riots, because people are furious
I think we can probably all have a Reasonable discussion here and disagree with each other on various points but hopefully come to some common ground. This was an horrific crime and I think we all agree and disagree on various points and hopefully be able to express opposing views. I think part of the problem in this country is that opposing views are shut down as woke/far right and no one is actually having a conversation about the issues
Totally agree 🩷 tensions are so incredibly high at the moment. I think everyone is living in a high state of anxiety currently
That's your interpretation. I am not minimizing it. Because I think any murder is one too much. No one deserve to have their life taken away no matter their age or gender.
A woman coming back from work got stabbed a few months ago in London. Don't you think she got as afraid as any of those young girls? Don't you think her family and friends are as saddened as the families of the victims of Southport? We shouldn't put a hierarchy in term of pain when something like this happen. It's horrific in any case.
Sure, because attacking a mosque, the shop of a Sri Lankan (even though Sri Lanka people are not muslim) or police officers will solve anything? I want demonstrations to ask more funding for the police - Tories repeatedly cut the number of police officers the last 14 years - and for social services monitoring troubled people. Not demonstrations to threaten minorities, spread hatred and bring chaos.
People might think you’re ignorant? How do you know the attacker wasn’t racist?? How can you rule it out completely, you don’t have enough information
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I can’t even respond to that because we’ll argue. I completely disagree with near enough everything you’re saying. But you have your opinion I’ll have mine
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All the people on here that are saying that the butchering of children has nothing to do with the monsters race, ethnicity, cultural background, parents, anything whatsoever… etc, are also saying that the rioters are absolutely, 100%, rioting because of race, ethnicity, cultural background etc… it’s bull! how can you be so certain one way but not the other?!
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I think he must have, it's certainly not on a direct route from Banks into Southport town centre or even from Banks up to the out of town retail park at Meols Cop.
when there is any 'incident', one of my first thoughts is please don't let the perpetrator be Muslim/British/Asian/POC/Female/From my town- I think it is the 'yes, this person is the same '____' as me but let me distance myself'To lighten the mood, the Welsh debate is giving “if my grandmother had wheels she would have been a bike”(let’s all focus on the real story here that 3 beautiful girls lost their lives and many others have been injured! Where he’s from doesn’t actually matter in the grand scheme of it all!)
Those protesters who turned out in Southport...no decent Tattler is like them, yet being proud to be English is not a bad thing.
This is knowing you are a good person so don't want any link to be made between you and say a murderer-you don't want any association. I get that
Realistically non of us know the motive yet. But there have been rising tensions and I think trust in the police has broken down. They didn’t have any capacity so were running away in Leeds yet they managed to arrest a couple of 70 year old women for ‘leaflets’ the other day. I’m not saying I want them to go Dirty Harry on everyone but actually if you join the rozzers then you need to be aware you have to do a bit of physical work and put yourself in dangerous situations. I don’t have the answer of what they should do but it feels like the trust has been lost.
Leeds keeps being used as an example but the riot was never expected. Officers who did retreat were not riot trained and were not equipped to deal with the crowds and violence there.
At what level though, can a situation be deemed TOO dangerous and allow officers to retreat?
Officers face abuse on a daily basis - verbally abused, spat at, pushed, punched etc. They are fully aware that things get physical.
100’s of officers put themselves in such situations this week and how many were injured? Both human and animal.
The bigger picture to that is that already under staffed areas, are even more understaffed when there may be more protests/riots being planned.
Yeah, I’m not saying it is ok to assault police btw as I come from supportive police background in NI. So maybe I am just more used to police coming out on the streets in riot gear. It does feel like they are woefully underprepared if something does go seriously wrong in England.
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Severely understaffed. It’s scary and the last week or so has really proved so.
Is that this guy? https://www.sundayworld.com/crime/w...-and-private-plane-to-africa/a2011559685.htmlExactly this and that’s coming from a mixed race lad as wellgo on Sam la
Yeah that’s him
So he’s not inciting violence but is basically advising people to go smash up buildings and cars… make it make sense?!Exactly this and that’s coming from a mixed race lad as well
“Walker has spent many years in prison for a variety of crimes including violence, firearms and drug supply”
Not someone I would personally take advice from 🫠
What the duck is ‘la’?
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