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Wee Nora

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The problem is though that the police have deliberately concealed identities of people and things have gone unreported so I can understand why people are annoyed. Were they right to go out rioting? Of course not. But they could have just said that they thought it was a minor and that would be the end of it.
But that’s exactly what they did do. They said a 17 year old male had been arrested. It wasn’t enough. Certain people needed all the details and when those details didn’t come they filled in the blanks by saying his name is Ali Apartment, he’s Muslim, arrived illegally by boat last year, he’s on an MI6 watch list 🤦🏼‍♀️
I guess MI6 wouldn’t be doing their job very well if every Karen on X had access to their “watch list”.
 
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Haveyouanywool

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Nigel Farage disgracefully shared false information about the perpetrator at the very start of this mayhem.
If Police officers are to be held to a higher standard, then MPs should be too.
He woefully failed in that regard.
 
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Tippingpoint23

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The problem is though that the police have deliberately concealed identities of people and things have gone unreported so I can understand why people are annoyed. Were they right to go out rioting? Of course not. But they could have just said that they thought it was a minor and that would be the end of it.
The police haven’t done anything wrong, there are very strict laws about what can be said about criminals or suspected criminals under 18 years old and the police have to follow these laws. They can’t just come out and start saying stuff to prevent morons from jumping to conclusions and rioting!!!
 
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monga

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Starmer should be holding a civic reception for this OAP instead of cutting off his heating allowance 😂
 
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Pavement1979

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Is it just me who finds articles like this a bit weird? Has she been paid for this story?? Why’s she making it all about her and her daughter?
THANK YOU. I was feeling a right wrong un but I saw them on the news and it was an uncomfortable watch. A bit of mourn porn tied up with grifting your child about for attention. Parenting capacity seems off to me.
 
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Miss polar

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Not normally a defender of the police, but they were absolutely under attack last night from these dickheads. They didn’t seem to have the kit to defend themselves sufficiently, and I felt sorry for them!
I hope these dumb fucks out rioting are identified by their employers and sacked!
 
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Jas19/2

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This thread is actually barbaric and distasteful to even be covering this subject. This will be the last time I post on this thread. How can people on anonymous public forum accuse people of racism far right you don’t know anyone on this thread individually you can’t judge people on an opinion absolutely unbelievable. I’m a mixed race woman from toxteth
I don’t agree with Riots
But people are allowed to protest, no matter what ethnic group they belong to. It’s can’t be different rules for different ethnic groups
The police need to stop using two tier policing and treating everyone the same no matter what colour I also don’t agree with illegal integration after all we don’t know who these people are could be anyone because they come in undocumented
I also think immigrant that immigrants to Britain should respect our values and not rubbish them and I do not think it’s kicked off because of the Southport riots. I think it’s been bubbling under the Service for a long time. It’s because of a mixture of things
I wouldn’t say my opinions were racist and to the person who called me far right how fucking dare you? You haven’t got a clue who I am. You don’t know myself individually.
 
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juy7nhio

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We are more horrified because they are little, vulnerable, tiny little girls they are CHILDREN!!! Tiny little girls terrified knifed to death by a fucking deranged monster, without their mums or dads to protect them, fuxking terrified can you imagine the absolute pain and horror! It goes against every fuckkng fibre of human nature! Why the actual fuck are you even trying to minimise & compare it!
Trying to minimise and trying to understand the reason and background are 2 different things...
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I’m 3 generation immigrant my grandfather is from Jamaica and I can see where that section of society are coming from so am I far right bear in mind I’m of mixed race heritage I am married to a black man of Jamaican heritage and have mixed race children
Yes he was born her but he is second generation immigrant due to his Rwandan parentage so it all leads back to the same issue
Your coming across as trying to hard to disagree allow it period
How on earth does this 'lead back to the same issue'? He is not an immigrant he was born here! You can't even explain why his parents coming from Rwanda has anything to do with him being a murderer.

How about the Dunblane massacre, he was a white guy. Plymouth mass murderer was a white guy. But no one riots then. No one riots for all the women who are victims of male violence.
 
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miss n thropy

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There’s visa routes for economic migrants, you can’t claim asylum for economic reasons.
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These weren’t agency staff they were straight off the boat as the article stated.
Nor can you claim asylum before you arrive if you are fleeing war or political or religious persecution.

I am going to leave this topic here now, but I still don’t know what the issue of immigration, illegal or otherwise, nor asylum seeking has to do with the innocent girls and their poor families apart from the fact that the usual grifters have used the issue of race to influence a small, hateful and not very bright percentage of the population, who are nothing but scum, into violence and disorder.
 
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Sloth

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Just to clarify - people are protesting because of the Southport murders by taking police resources away from preventing and detecting said crimes?
 
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Gym&Tonic

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I love how they all talk about the burden immigrants place on public services like the NHS, when most of them look like heart attacks, stokes, cirrhosis and type 2 diabetes waiting to happen🙄
 
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Ashlgr

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I've just sat and watched some of the footage from on County Road tonight and I actually can't help but cry, there's actual children there smashing up and looting shops, throwing fireworks at the police, screaming and causing chaos. How does this have anything to do with those poor murdered little girls anymore 😥
 
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JSquared

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Yeah SM is a car crash . Lastnight I watched a live stream ( TikTok) of youths trashing people’s homes (egged on by grown men) that’s where we are now 🙄
I may sound like my Nan but life was definitely better when SM such as twitter, instagram etc did not exist.
I fear for my little boy when he is older to what the world will be like.
 
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Alansbigplate

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Those wearing t shirts with the girls’ faces on are so disrespectful it must add so much more distress to the families I was sickened
 
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Liverpool city centre AGAIN.
Screaming save our kids but our kids are having to sit shit scared in their houses because these scum are carrying on like this. I wanted to take my kids on the ferry today while the weathers lovely but you can’t enter town because of this on the Docks 😡
 

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Moth

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It is easy to dismiss the rioters as knuckle dragging oafs but there must be a reason why they feel the way they do.
Generally working class areas are deprived to start with, and the influx of migrants from other deprived/war-torn parts of the world does not improve the situation for the original inhabitants ...
It's easy because the rioters (those attacking random black and brown people, destroying property, looting and those just along for the ride, filming it on their phones) are "knuckle dragging oafs". The vast majority are racists but there are also those who welcome any opportunity for violence and thieving.

If they weren't "knuckle dragging oafs" they might be inclined to ask why "generally working class are are deprived to start with" but most of them 'feel the way they do' because for 50 years or more they and their parents have been told that the reason is because of black and brown people.

In the early days the people that told them this were unashamed facists, racists and far right Nazis - Combat 18, the National Front, BNP etc. The humiliation of Nick Griffin on Question Time made them realise that they had to change strategy if they ever wanted to gain real power. So over the years they have become more 'respectable', cloaking their aims behind mainstream political issues and increasingly supported by people motivated by opportunities that a right wing, authoritarian government would bring for their personal gain.

The rioters are simply the foot soldiers for those that want to achieve this, 'thick as mince' cannon fodder that can mobilised to destroy democracy and their own lives simply by someone pointing at somebody who looks different to them. It's not a new tactic, it's was used by the same sort of people 90 odd years ago and for hundreds of years before that. Unfortunately there are still too many people too stupid to learn the lessons of history and to the realise that yet again they are being played.
 
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