Societal Collapse - thoughts?

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Do you think the lack of assimilation is a big problem now? I know people pride themselves on this country being multicultural and all cultures getting along but there have been so many painful examples of where that isn’t true. I can only see the divide getting bigger and bigger. Combined with wealth inequality and global warming it does seem that it’s a bit like a ticking time bomb.
The official line has always been that we are one big happy multicultural family. The most high profile examples, such as the England football team, paint this picture. But beneath the surface? I simply don’t know.

One of the most harrowing cases I was ever involved in was the murder of two Chinese “students” in Newcastle. Now I put the word student in quotation marks for a reason, that being that except for registration they never attended university once and spent their days involved in a betting scam. It was also unclear how the girl, who by all accounts couldn’t speak a word of English, had any hope in hell of following a course of higher education. But that is an issue for the UK Foreign Office visa team and I digress. To get back on topic what we quickly discovered was that we had no contact within the Chinese community, no knowledge of how they operated, and had no one willing to talk to us. That we eventually caught the killer was flat blind luck, and we discovered he had been illegally in the UK for over a decade, still could not speak a word and had done god knows what.

I think if society collapses it will be because the majority of needs can’t be met (food, power etc) likely to be related to climate change and or illnesses. For society to collapse the people “in charge” have to lose power - not by losing an election, by governments losing authority. If they can’t feed/house/look after the people then they will collapse. Bigger countries try to step in/invade. If the worlds larger economies like USA, India, China, Germany/EU, Russia all had overthrown governments society would collapse.
A few migrants making it across the channel is hardly the beginning of the end, plus over a million Europeans left London due to Brexit and the pandemic so I’m sure there’s plenty of room.
By mass migration I don’t mean a few people arriving by dinghy. Although I would point out that neither you, me, or indeed anyone reading this thread have any idea who these people are, what their intentions are, or what their backgrounds are. I would agree that most are just looking for a better life, but once again I would point out that desiring a better life economically isn’t, and never had been, a legitimate reason to claim political asylum by any legislation i’m aware of.

By mass migration I mean that an estimated 55 million people may be displaced by climate change and they will have to go somewhere. It’s a Malthusian issue.
 
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The official line has always been that we are one big happy multicultural family. The most high profile examples, such as the England football team, paint this picture. But beneath the surface? I simply don’t know.

One of the most harrowing cases I was ever involved in was the murder of two Chinese “students” in Newcastle. Now I put the word student in quotation marks for a reason, that being that except for registration they never attended university once and spent their days involved in a betting scam. It was also unclear how the girl, who by all accounts couldn’t speak a word of English, had any hope in hell of following a course of higher education. But that is an issue for the UK Foreign Office visa team and I digress. To get back on topic what we quickly discovered was that we had no contact within the Chinese community, no knowledge of how they operated, and had no one willing to talk to us. That we eventually caught the killer was flat blind luck, and we discovered he had been illegally in the UK for over a decade, still could not speak a word and had done god knows what.



By mass migration I don’t mean a few people arriving by dinghy. Although I would point out that neither you, me, or indeed anyone reading this thread have any idea who these people are, what their intentions are, or what their backgrounds are. I would agree that most are just looking for a better life, but once again I would point out that desiring a better life economically isn’t, and never had been, a legitimate reason to claim political asylum by any legislation i’m aware of.

By mass migration I mean that an estimated 55 million people may be displaced by climate change and they will have to go somewhere. It’s a Malthusian issue.
I’ve never heard of this case before! I looked it up and gosh, that was one brutal slaying. Could it be that as an organised gang they came over to help manufacture fake qualifications and such and did something to annoy the crime family they were involved in? Sorry for digressing.

In regards of the mass migration to U.K., some have said that it won’t cause an issue and contribute to a society collapse. But if there are around 800,000-1.2 million unauthorized immigrants in Britain (this was from a 2017 study, it’s the most up to data I could get) and up to 75% of babies are born to migrant mothers in parts of UK, 58% in London alone could this boom in population put a strain on the infrastructure? We already have a housing crisis and new build homes are notorious for being poorly built compared to older ones plus don’t make as much money in resale generally. We also need more school places, and access to the NHS which is already badly run and underfunded. We are the most overcrowded main nation in Europe, one of the most nature depleted countries in the world. Surely we can’t carry on like this and at some point, something is going to have to break?
 
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I’m not sure how “too many” immigrants coming to the UK or coming to carry out criminal activity would cause “societal collapse”? Besides if the water levels rise people will have to flee FROM the UK as most of it would be underwater...
If this thread is about societal collapse in the UK only I think it should be clearer in the thread title.
 
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Watching Al Jazeera News this morning, a good example of societal collapse just now is Afghanistan.
The Taliban are claiming to now control 85% of the country & most of the vital borders.
People are fleeing Kabul, big queues for passports & real fear that many freedoms gained by women & young folks will be destroyed. Simple things like coffee shops, music stores etc which prospered while UK/US troops were there are now deemed 'westernized'.
 
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I think water wars are going to be a big issue of this current century.
Last year on Egypt & Ethiopia:
https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/egypt-nile-war-water-ethiopia-clash-dam-trump-a9390271.html
 
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There's only a very thin veneer of society that can quickly disappear.

I do believe the changing weather making large parts of the world inhabitable will make covid and Brexit look like a total sideshow
 
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A few years back Evangelical Christian leaders were calling the hurricanes in America God’s punishment for gays and their community. There are enough gay people gainfully employed, married, and or raising children to poke holes in the theory the religious right was propagating. I know people bemoan the divorce rates and declining marriage rates, but that, I think, is a by product of economic prosperity. Families are great but I don’t believe being single in the modern world is a crime.
Who's taking about gays, not me. Interesting that you assume we are talking about homosexually when I said over sexualised and hedonistic. I was more refering to porn, normality and visibility of extreme sex acts and a general over sexualisation of every aspect of society. I also don't think it's an issue to be single or to raise children in single parent families - but too many children are raised in households where there is a revolving door of partners.
 
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Who's taking about gays, not me. Interesting that you assume we are talking about homosexually when I said over sexualised and hedonistic. I was more refering to porn, normality and visibility of extreme sex acts and a general over sexualisation of every aspect of society. I also don't think it's an issue to be single or to raise children in single parent families - but too many children are raised in households where there is a revolving door of partners.
Invoking “immorality” automatically makes me think of the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah, which is the classic example of the breaking down and destruction of a society. It is cited regularly in homophobic rhetoric - that’s why I made the connection.

A revolving door of parents sounds unideal. I don’t generally experience the hyper-sexualization that you’re describing. The only example of hyper-sexualization I recall in the recent past is Cardi B’s performance of W.A.P. at an awards show. She pushed the envelope in some peoples eyes but that’s what artists do.
 
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Something big - bigger than all the protests currently happening around the world - is about to go down.

Suggest: stock up on milk powder, flour (if you can) and water (fill as many empty bottles as you can with tap water)
Also pet food if you have pets
Get cash out - as much as you can - and hide it in your home
If you have loved ones living alone, encourage them to come and stay with you

Be prepared as best you can, but don't bog yourself down with worry.

I was right about the internet shut down a few months back - before the first lot happened - I hope I'm right now too, but please prepare yourselves.
 
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Something big - bigger than all the protests currently happening around the world - is about to go down.

Suggest: stock up on milk powder, flour (if you can) and water (fill as many empty bottles as you can with tap water)
Also pet food if you have pets
Get cash out - as much as you can - and hide it in your home
If you have loved ones living alone, encourage them to come and stay with you

Be prepared as best you can, but don't bog yourself down with worry.

I was right about the internet shut down a few months back - before the first lot happened - I hope I'm right now too, but please prepare yourselves.
Elaborate please ?
 
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Something big - bigger than all the protests currently happening around the world - is about to go down.

Suggest: stock up on milk powder, flour (if you can) and water (fill as many empty bottles as you can with tap water)
Also pet food if you have pets
Get cash out - as much as you can - and hide it in your home
If you have loved ones living alone, encourage them to come and stay with you

Be prepared as best you can, but don't bog yourself down with worry.

I was right about the internet shut down a few months back - before the first lot happened - I hope I'm right now too, but please prepare yourselves.
Come on elaborate, or get on over to the conspiracy thread.
 
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Something big - bigger than all the protests currently happening around the world - is about to go down.

Suggest: stock up on milk powder, flour (if you can) and water (fill as many empty bottles as you can with tap water)
Also pet food if you have pets
Get cash out - as much as you can - and hide it in your home
If you have loved ones living alone, encourage them to come and stay with you

Be prepared as best you can, but don't bog yourself down with worry.

I was right about the internet shut down a few months back - before the first lot happened - I hope I'm right now too, but please prepare yourselves.
Posts like this literally petrify me.
 
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Posts like this literally petrify me.
Same, more for my children than myself but I have heard about this internet crash that will in effect crash the world economy. Honestly at this point I’m not writing anything off as a conspiracy theory, I’m not going to go out and start stock piling bottled water and flour but I’ll definitely be keeping an eye on any information I come across
 
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Same, more for my children than myself but I have heard about this internet crash that will in effect crash the world economy. Honestly at this point I’m not writing anything off as a conspiracy theory, I’m not going to go out and start stock piling bottled water and flour but I’ll definitely be keeping an eye on any information I come across
I've often talked with my missus about the internet & if it all came crashing down, via hackers, scammers or organised crime etc.
I just think about how easy it is to pick up your device & away we go on the web, day in day out, it's just taken for granted now.
Organised hackers will cause something major to happen one day, just my opinion anyway.
I believe the NHS were even compromised a little while back
 
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Wouldn’t the cyber polygon mean that you can’t use any electricity as well so why would you stock pile flour, you wouldn’t be able to bake anything? @1001 others
 
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