i think we need to start thinking of him as a real person who seems to ve VERY powerful with money etc, people are actually fearing for their lives because of him, he needs to goOooh I’m off to watch Tatis video and then I’ll be back, I’ve missed all of this tonight and I’ve been waiting for it for days! I actually really liked Shane but I’ve been completely shocked at these old videos, in particularly the one with the cousin! What’s everyone’s thoughts on Jeffree? I tend to think if him as a character not a real person so don’t always get as mad with him as I perhaps should if that makes sense as he’s definitely all over this whole situation
well I’ve watched it now - holy shit!!i think it speaks volumes how guilty she has felt for a literal YEAR, yet jeffree and shane have carried on as normal, no emotion in their apologys compared to tati.. its obvious who is truthful here. jefree so obviously wants to tear every other person who gets big in the 'beauty community' he needs to fuck off back into his hole
i think we need to start thinking of him as a real person who seems to ve VERY powerful with money etc, people are actually fearing for their lives because of him, he needs to go
Ok I take this back now, after seeing these tweets it seems clear he’s chosen a side, the side that will eventually lose but that’s his problem. Either that or Shane has manipulated him so far that he feels forced to stick up for him. Either way I’ve lost a lot of respect for Ryland, based on this he clearly knew about what Shane is like when he began associating with him. I can’t sympathise with someone who isn’t protecting an incredibly twisted man who’s put out horrifically prejudice content into the world. I’m sure most parents wouldn’t allow their own children to just carry on saying everyone else is in the wrong and continue supporting them without at least making them address their past actions.I honestly feel so sorry for Ryland, he clearly really loves/d Shane but I honestly don’t think it’s the same from Shane. Even he’s losing subscribers too and for years received hate from Shane stans saying he’s using Shane for money and clout and now it seems like he might have been used by Shane to hide his negative past actions. I think he fell in love with him and his heart overpowered his head so he probably dismissed his controversial actions, as many of Shane’s stans did and, now is paying for it. I think he should end it with Shane and move back to Colorado with his family and work on himself, because it must be quite damaging to his mental well-being for him to be constantly shamed almost for being skinny by his fiancée and constantly have to pick Shane, never being able to focus on himself.
Even not thinking about the tears or body language, I don't think she'd make such a video if she was outright lying and had no receipts at the advice of a legal team, so at least the main points are probably things that are true and she has receipts for because if not she could be liable for a defamation suit against her from both Shane and Jeffree who are rich and angry enough to take this to court as opposed to other minor youtubers. So it'd be an extremely dumb move from her to make this video if it was just lies. However, there might be things that are not explained or omitted. At this point I really don't know.i think it speaks volumes how guilty she has felt for a literal YEAR, yet jeffree and shane have carried on as normal, no emotion in their apologys compared to tati.. its obvious who is truthful here. jefree so obviously wants to tear every other person who gets big in the 'beauty community' he needs to fuck off back into his hole
i think we need to start thinking of him as a real person who seems to ve VERY powerful with money etc, people are actually fearing for their lives because of him, he needs to go
Is it me or is Nick Snyder getting out of the "payroll", or is it just because he was called out?well I’ve watched it now - holy shit!!
yes I think you’re right, jeffree is super problematic and probably should take a back seat now but I think he’ll go off as Tati said.
Ryalnds tweets!! Jeez I didn’t think he had it in him! And Morgan unfollowed Jeffree this week and Jeffree hasn’t stood up for Shane in all the other drama, it’s just a mess!!
im off to check out what rich Liz, Ashley kyle, teaspill, petty page and nick Snyder have to say on this latest development!
Nick is definitely disassociating massively, I’ve thought of for a while. Have you watched his video tonight? He believes Tati! Dustin Daly did a video earlier before TatiS video staying the times Jeffree has lied to him and also disassociating! Poor Rich Is so desperate to be Jeffrees friend this will push him over the edge, he’ll have to do a video though as there’s too much money at stake not tooEven not thinking about the tears or body language, I don't think she'd make such a video if she was outright lying and had no receipts at the advice of a legal team, so at least the main points are probably things that are true and she has receipts for because if not she could be liable for a defamation suit against her from both Shane and Jeffree who are rich and angry enough to take this to court as opposed to other minor youtubers. So it'd be an extremely dumb move from her to make this video if it was just lies. However, there might be things that are not explained or omitted. At this point I really don't know.
Also, I feel that Jeffree could possibly have something on her. She seemed to be preparing for the eventuality of Jeffree attacking, she referred the fact that Jeffree has dirt on everyone to blackmail and silence and that he will probably attack at all force.
It's also very glaring to me that she's not the first person to say that she fears for her life by positioning against Jeffree. Kam Lester also referenced being afraid for his life. Even Blair White seemed extremely scared though in my opinion she felt right into Jeffree's trap and manipulation. This Voldemort has something that terrifies so many people.
Is it me or is Nick Snyder getting out of the "payroll", or is it just because he was called out?
I'm also curious to see Bias Lux ignoring all this on his drama videos lol And want to watch Sebastian Williams' video too.
actually Rich has done a video since I last looked, off to watch it now!!Nick is definitely disassociating massively, I’ve thought of for a while. Have you watched his video tonight? He believes Tati! Dustin Daly did a video earlier before TatiS video staying the times Jeffree has lied to him and also disassociating! Poor Rich Is so desperate to be Jeffrees friend this will push him over the edge, he’ll have to do a video though as there’s too much money at stake not tooNothing from Sebastian or any of the others on yet that I can see!
I haven't watched Nick or Dustin almost since dramagedon 2 because of their hypocrisy and bias, but watched a couple videos of Nick Snyder in the past few days and he seemed not so bias of Jafar. And I thought he was living with Bias Lux in Houston but apparently not anymore. I also didn't know Dustin was turning against Jafar... but he's a flip flop, so what's new? lolNick is definitely disassociating massively, I’ve thought of for a while. Have you watched his video tonight? He believes Tati! Dustin Daly did a video earlier before TatiS video staying the times Jeffree has lied to him and also disassociating! Poor Rich Is so desperate to be Jeffrees friend this will push him over the edge, he’ll have to do a video though as there’s too much money at stake not tooNothing from Sebastian or any of the others on yet that I can see!
actually Rich has done a video since I last looked, off to watch it now!!
I think Shane is jealous of James Charles success in Mainstream Media and on youtube. because one he was on Ellen before his started his youtube channel, I don't think Shane has ever been on Ellen and I don't think he ever will be on Ellen with everything that is going on right now.I haven't watched Nick or Dustin almost since dramagedon 2 because of their hypocrisy and bias, but watched a couple videos of Nick Snyder in the past few days and he seemed not so bias of Jafar. And I thought he was living with Bias Lux in Houston but apparently not anymore. I also didn't know Dustin was turning against Jafar... but he's a flip flop, so what's new? lol
Also, I've been thinking about Shane's implication in this. Let's assume Tati was lying. From a tactical point of view it would make sense to attack and blame Jafar, but she has no reason to go for Shane. When Kam Lester said he had heard Shane cursing James, I actually had my doubts believing him and I always thought that Shane's involvement in dramagedon was just theories or that at most he just had gone with the rumor mill. Jeffree I had no doubt he had probably his hand in convincing Tati to make the video, but Shane I still gave him the benefit of the doubt. But she directly implicated Shane in this. So for me this seals the deal that Shane was really directly involved in the drama.
To this day I still don't understand Shane's hate towards James. Yes, I understand Jafar's jealousy and hate and wanting to throw someone he sae as competition down... but Shane being at the epicenter of this drama to destroy James and a year later still talking so low about James, even on his 4 page statement... make it make sense.
Also I'm curious to see how Jafar will react. He'll snap. I'm waiting for his rant snap chat. If I think he manipulated Blair White and she felt for his trap, I don't think Jafar antecipated this... he was moving too confident. Which goes back to my suspicion that Jafar probably has/had something on Tati and she's now protecting herself by releasing this video and taking legal action and not falling for the intimidation/silencing tactics anymore.
You might be right. Shane always wanted to be on mainstream hollywood as a director (or maybe also an actor?) but he never got to mainstream outside of youtube. James being so young and as a newcomer to youtube was already on mainstream media, being invited to the Met gala, having mainstream celebrities on his videos, he was in Ellen as you said, etc.I think Shane is jealous of James Charles success in Mainstream Media and on youtube. because one he was on Ellen before his started his youtube channel, I don't think Shane has ever been on Ellen and I don't think he ever will be on Ellen with everything that is going on right now.
I agree you are right about the MET Gala (sp?)You might be right. Shane always wanted to be on mainstream hollywood as a director (or maybe also an actor?) but he never got to mainstream outside of youtube. James being so young and as a newcomer to youtube was already on mainstream media, being invited to the Met gala, having mainstream celebrities on his videos, he was in Ellen as you said, etc.
Another funny meme someone posted on reddit:
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