annanuttall
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Read Beyond Belief by Jenna Miscavige Hill as it really sad but a fascinated read.
I'm fascinated by it all! I listened to a few Louis Theroux podcasts and he mentioned in one that he received a letter from David Miscavage's personal lawyer who is based in Belfast. Due to a libel loophole in NI, he can stop certain Scientology shows going out on UK TV due to a defamation clause (though he wasn't able to stop the Louis doc going out as he had expert solicitors who made sure everything was carefully worded). I did a bit of google research on it as I'm local in NI and David is linked to two separate solicitors in Belfast.I'm not sure if there is a difference between UK and USA scientology. I dont know why their base in N.Ireland shut down (I mean its probably cus they couldn't recruit) I dont know who 'runs' the UK of scientology.
Theres an early (2012 I think) about scientology and you see mike rinder in it while he was still miscavige right hand man, then watch all the aftermath stuff with mike having left it. I'm completely obsessed with it all and theres going to be no more aftermath shows either!
I think L Ron only made it up to make money... I highly doubt he believed any of it as he was a very well educated man.I'd love to go in to one of their buildings but would be scared of getting kidnapped I mean, ok Ron Hubbard made the whole thing up and admitted there was no money in writing science fiction but theres money in religion (evidently!!) But miscavige took it to a whole other level. Hubbard might have been bat shit crazy but miscavige is cruel, nasty and violent. I've ran out of scientology things to watch. I rewatched all the aftermath programmes.
Weve a church in a town outside of belfast called green pastures, it's basically an extreme 'Christian' cult (personally I believe all religions are cults) but green pastures has been built in a real deprived area and millions has been pumped in to it.
Some people are just a bit mental
I feel like his wife is dead. Anyone else? She hasn't been seen for years. I have a book called Beyond Belief by Miscavage's niece that I need to watch. I wouldn't be surprised if scientology keep an eye on threads like this too.What are the main differences between it in American and UK?
I need more documentaryās to watch but I think Iāve watched them all!
Whats the deal with miscaviges wife?
I have soooooo many questions!!! Itās honestly the biggest cultout there.
I would totally wanna go to saint manor but equally be scared they would latch on to me lol
They have a real knack for making the followers feel well and truly trapped - especially if they've cut off contact with former friends and family ... the Scientologists will have them feeling like their way of life is the only option. This is true with other religions also - look up 'Gloriavale' if you want to go down another rabbit hole.Iāve read both Leah remi and jenna miscavages books and I can honestly see why it took so long for them to get out. Itās not a case of simply getting up and leaving. It took jenna years and years! Even when she knew things were wrong. And even when she decided to leave things were made so difficult for her. If he has Shelly in the mountains somewhere hidden away she doesnāt stand a chance of getting away from him and it.
I was just driving home thinking oh christ there is going to be mike rinder like people on my doorstep waiting for meI feel like his wife is dead. Anyone else? She hasn't been seen for years. I have a book called Beyond Belief by Miscavage's niece that I need to watch. I wouldn't be surprised if scientology keep an eye on threads like this too.
Miscavige is not a paedophile. He's an evil, money-grubbing, ruthless, physically abusive, imprisoning bastard, but he's not a paedophile. Hubbard, on the other hand... he once wrote about how seven-year-old girls should not have any issue with being passionately kissed by older men, and he also said that anyone who has a problem with child abuse is covering up for the fact that they were probably an abuser themselves in a past life.This site gives some insight into their beliefs and practices. Operation Clambake
This link here gives you an idea of what they are taught as 'gospel'. Worth a look, it's hilariously bad science fiction.
The Xenu Legend
How any grown adult can fall for the above story truly baffles me.
A lot of the survivors talk about systemic sexual abuse of children.
L Ron Hubbard was a drug addled pervert and a conman. The present leader David Miscavige is also named as a paedophile by survivors.
Shelly is alive, by all accounts, and a prisoner in the mountains, but she's not in The Hole. The Hole was an office-turned-prison at Scientology's HQ in California where Miscavige had scores of Scientology executives locked up for, in some cases, several years. They slept on the floor in there, had meals (usually slop) delivered to them, and had to literally beat confessions of 'crimes' against Scientology out of each other.I was just driving home thinking oh christ there is going to be mike rinder like people on my doorstep waiting for me
Yes i have just started her book!
I reckon Shelly is alive but locked up in that mountain dungeon.. The Hole i think they called it? He prob pops in to bash her up & have a quickie then leaves her for months again!
Whats so weird His dad Ron left & has spoken out against him... So how can that be passed of as bull as well as the other 1000s of people?
3 seasons of scientology the aftermath. Then louis theroux has one and then theres another called scientology going clear. (I'd recommend the 2 documentaries n then the aftermath shows)Can anyone recommended any good docs to watch about all this Iām so interested
Just seen this after I commented the same, I've been watching every night (despite it being in the middle of the night here in the UK). I have had issues on a personal level with Scientology so I'm thoroughly enjoying watching the locations being protested.Has anyone been watching the protests on Tik Tok? Theyāve basically shut one of the recruiting centres down.
But everything is so creepy - they hide things in plain sight like a tutoring academy for children that indoctrinates them.
They've finally managed to service Miscavidge after months and months of trying. I hope this brings an onslaught of lawsuits from people who've been harmed.I think the Masterson verdict along with Leah Reminiās lawsuit will see the beginning of the end for Scientology. This verdict has shown that they are not untouchable.
I am so happy that Leah Remini and Mike Rinder have relaunched their podcast (albeit via Youtube)
I donāt read at all.. But I'm so obsessed about all this i cant stop.. She is David Miscavviageā niece so i know i will love it!I'd love leah to come over. She'd eat n shit UK scientologists if you convert I promise to try to find you and bring you back to your senses!!
Oh I rarely read but I'll look into that 1!
Iād imagine itās partly that people get involved when theyāre relatively unknown and then once they get famous the Church has so much dirt on them that itās impossible for them to disentangle themselves without risking everything. I did also once read an article somewhere that one of the reasons celebrities like Scientology is that, unlike most religions that say weāre all equal, Scientology teaches very clearly that there are different levels of human achievement and some people are most definitely ābetterā than others. That (and the ego massage that goes with it) appeals to a lot of celebrities. The ācelebrityā experience in Scientology is generally very different from that of ordinary people, someone like Tom Cruise isnāt cleaning toilets and working for nothing, heās literally treated like a God. So when celebrities cone out in support of Scientology itās probably part fear, part ego and a big dollop of not really experiencing the worst of the organisation.How on earth the likes of Tom Cruise and John Travolta got mixed up with these bunch on loonies really baffles me.