annanuttall
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Read Beyond Belief by Jenna Miscavige Hill as it really sad but a fascinated read.
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Just watched Leah Remini's documentary on how & why she left this 'church'. Chilling stuff, indeed. Well worth a watch.
Leah interviewed an ex female member (who'd also managed to escape the clutches of Scientology) who said her 12 year-old son had sex with a 40 year-old woman while a member of this so-called church. Parents & children are separated, btw, and aren't allowed to have any communication, so parents have no idea what's happening to their kids. I think they're allowed so many hours communication per year.
The documentary was made in 2016 I think, don't know how long it took to be aired. But if true, this is rape and should be thoroughly investigated. How on earth is this cult (my own description, because that's what I believe it to be) being allowed to continue without proper investigation in supposedly civilised nations?
Just watching the members (Sea Orgs) on that documentary parading back & forth to classes, etc, as though in a trance, reminded me of of that film The Stepford Wives - although these people aren't actors, they're unfortunately real, much more scary, and far more dangerous.
Leah interviewed an ex female member (who'd also managed to escape the clutches of Scientology) who said her 12 year-old son had sex with a 40 year-old woman while a member of this so-called church. Parents & children are separated, btw, and aren't allowed to have any communication, so parents have no idea what's happening to their kids. I think they're allowed so many hours communication per year.
The documentary was made in 2016 I think, don't know how long it took to be aired. But if true, this is rape and should be thoroughly investigated. How on earth is this cult (my own description, because that's what I believe it to be) being allowed to continue without proper investigation in supposedly civilised nations?
Just watching the members (Sea Orgs) on that documentary parading back & forth to classes, etc, as though in a trance, reminded me of of that film The Stepford Wives - although these people aren't actors, they're unfortunately real, much more scary, and far more dangerous.
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lightninglass
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Watch the youtube channel called Growing up in scientology
I'm fascinated by it all! I listened to a few Louis Theroux podcasts and he mentioned in one that he received a letter from David Miscavage's personal lawyer who is based in Belfast. Due to a libel loophole in NI, he can stop certain Scientology shows going out on UK TV due to a defamation clause (though he wasn't able to stop the Louis doc going out as he had expert solicitors who made sure everything was carefully worded). I did a bit of google research on it as I'm local in NI and David is linked to two separate solicitors in Belfast.
https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/...el-laws-in-bid-to-ban-dads-book-34675807.html
Sky pulls Scientology show because of Northern Ireland libel laws
A hard-hitting Scientology documentary faces the axe from UK TV screens because of Northern Ireland's archaic libel laws.
Going to hazard a guess someone at each law firm either know's they're getting a big payday from Miscavage or they're in the cult themselves...found myself googling the lawyers at the firms and trying to figure out which one of them is the big Scientologist who hasn't a bit of sense between the ears!lol
Scientology is nothing more than a glorified money making cult.
Luckily it has been banned in many countries.
No proper religion should have membership fees or require their followers to cough up large sums, in order to be able to 'follow the faith'. Nor would they follow and h
How on earth the likes of Tom Cruise and John Travolta got mixed up with these bunch on loonies really baffles me.
I once had someone try and thrust a Scientology flyer in my face outside the UK HQ in London.
They were told in no uncertain terms to shove the propaganda relating to their cult, somewhere where the sun doesn't shine.
Luckily it has been banned in many countries.
No proper religion should have membership fees or require their followers to cough up large sums, in order to be able to 'follow the faith'. Nor would they follow and h
How on earth the likes of Tom Cruise and John Travolta got mixed up with these bunch on loonies really baffles me.
I once had someone try and thrust a Scientology flyer in my face outside the UK HQ in London.
They were told in no uncertain terms to shove the propaganda relating to their cult, somewhere where the sun doesn't shine.
Blurp
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Leah and Mike have a weekly podcast called Scientology: Fair Game. I listen to it through Stitcher but you should be able to get it on most podcast apps.
They get guests on, many of them have already been on the Aftermath TV series but they can talk in a lot more depth in an hour for one person.
Marc Headley's book Blown for Good: Behind the Iron Curtain of Scientology is very good reading too.
They get guests on, many of them have already been on the Aftermath TV series but they can talk in a lot more depth in an hour for one person.
Marc Headley's book Blown for Good: Behind the Iron Curtain of Scientology is very good reading too.
Just watched a 2 hour long documentary on Sky about this last night. Wow. How scary is it that so many otherwise decent & sensible people can be brainwashed so easily. At least some of them came to their senses and are speaking out, even admitting how they lied to interviewers, the press, etc, beforehand. The way that creep David Miscavige sends his lackeys to the homes of those who either leave or speak out - to intimidate and threaten them - is quite terrifying.
What I took from it was, that they prod and encourage newcomers to admit to their failings, divulge past secrets, shameful behaviour (which, as human beings most of us all have) then they document/record it, exaggerate it, lie about it, and use it against you if you want to leave by threatening to expose all to the press in the hope of destroying them.
How sad that complete families are being destroyed by one person coming to their senses and then find themselves being completely shunned & ostracized for life by their very own spouse/parents/children/grandchildren, etc.
And Creepy Miscavige is the epitome of Napoleon Complex.
This 'religion' is like Stockholm Syndrome on steroids.
What I took from it was, that they prod and encourage newcomers to admit to their failings, divulge past secrets, shameful behaviour (which, as human beings most of us all have) then they document/record it, exaggerate it, lie about it, and use it against you if you want to leave by threatening to expose all to the press in the hope of destroying them.
How sad that complete families are being destroyed by one person coming to their senses and then find themselves being completely shunned & ostracized for life by their very own spouse/parents/children/grandchildren, etc.
And Creepy Miscavige is the epitome of Napoleon Complex.
This 'religion' is like Stockholm Syndrome on steroids.
tabbycatmum_xo
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I think the Masterson verdict along with Leah Remini’s lawsuit will see the beginning of the end for Scientology. This verdict has shown that they are not untouchable.
I am so happy that Leah Remini and Mike Rinder have relaunched their podcast (albeit via Youtube)
I am so happy that Leah Remini and Mike Rinder have relaunched their podcast (albeit via Youtube)
Cheezychips
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Has anyone been keeping up with the streamers protesting for the past few months?
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La Poubelle can't sustain this much longer, surely? And I know the test centre in hollywood is due to reopen soon, but they'll be right back outside the minute it happens. The protest of the new Ideal Org in Texas was fantastic, one of the protesters has an incredibly loud voice and was shouting over the top of Miscavidge speech.
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Just seen this after I commented the same, I've been watching every night (despite it being in the middle of the night here in the UK). I have had issues on a personal level with Scientology so I'm thoroughly enjoying watching the locations being protested.
La Poubelle can't sustain this much longer, surely? And I know the test centre in hollywood is due to reopen soon, but they'll be right back outside the minute it happens. The protest of the new Ideal Org in Texas was fantastic, one of the protesters has an incredibly loud voice and was shouting over the top of Miscavidge speech.
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They've finally managed to service Miscavidge after months and months of trying. I hope this brings an onslaught of lawsuits from people who've been harmed.
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I think L Ron only made it up to make money... I highly doubt he believed any of it as he was a very well educated man.I'd love to go in to one of their buildings but would be scared of getting kidnappedI mean, ok Ron Hubbard made the whole thing up and admitted there was no money in writing science fiction but theres money in religion (evidently!!) But miscavige took it to a whole other level. Hubbard might have been bat shit crazy but miscavige is cruel, nasty and violent. I've ran out of scientology things to watch. I rewatched all the aftermath programmes.
Weve a church in a town outside of belfast called green pastures, it's basically an extreme 'Christian' cult (personally I believe all religions are cults) but green pastures has been built in a real deprived area and millions has been pumped in to it.
Some people are just a bit mental
But Miscavviage on the other hand loves the power he gets from it... I dont even know if its about the money for him (clearly to a certain extent) but it think he likes being Hitler.. I was shocked the amount of abuse even his close crew members get..
Im going to make my fiance come with me to Saint Hill Manor this weekend to have a nose... Apparently its just had a $16 million renovation! And its now more of a museum! It has this on it Wiki page "Following the completion of the renovations, the Church of Scientology purchased seven brand new 29-seater ADL Enviro200 midibuses to transport the 400 staff members between the manor and the town of Crowborough, fourteen miles away"
Lets get in contact with Leah Remini to investigate in the UK and we can help her ! Haha!
bubbletea123
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I feel like his wife is dead. Anyone else? She hasn't been seen for years. I have a book called Beyond Belief by Miscavage's niece that I need to watch. I wouldn't be surprised if scientology keep an eye on threads like this too.
OMG Dalty! No way! I have too int he passed & closed my twitter down in the end as i was terrified of being fair gamed Haha!
I am so intrigued about what makes them so blind to the money... What is with all the empty buildings in Clearwater? And the IRS?
Imagine HMRC here- they would have a proper battle on their hands if they tried to get tax immunity here!
Apparently there is a home near me that was formally L Ron Hubbards holiday home. Saint Manor i think its called. And you can go & visit... i really really want to go but i'm also a bit scared they might start following me! Although i live a fairly mundane life full of sins!!
I am so intrigued about what makes them so blind to the money... What is with all the empty buildings in Clearwater? And the IRS?
Imagine HMRC here- they would have a proper battle on their hands if they tried to get tax immunity here!
Apparently there is a home near me that was formally L Ron Hubbards holiday home. Saint Manor i think its called. And you can go & visit... i really really want to go but i'm also a bit scared they might start following me! Although i live a fairly mundane life full of sins!!
1001 others
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They have a real knack for making the followers feel well and truly trapped - especially if they've cut off contact with former friends and family ... the Scientologists will have them feeling like their way of life is the only option. This is true with other religions also - look up 'Gloriavale' if you want to go down another rabbit hole.
I think we also have to be mindful that there will be 'disinfo agents' operating - speaking out against Scientology but secretly working for them. I can't name anyone who I suspect of doing that; but it's always a possibility.
I was just driving home thinking oh christ there is going to be mike rinder like people on my doorstep waiting for me
Yes i have just started her book!
I reckon Shelly is alive but locked up in that mountain dungeon.. The Hole i think they called it? He prob pops in to bash her up & have a quickie then leaves her for months again!
Whats so weird His dad Ron left & has spoken out against him... So how can that be passed of as bull as well as the other 1000s of people?
Black.bird
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I used to work with a lady who belonged to one of these new-age churches - not Scientology, but just as ... "involved".
It seemed to effect every part of her life - even if we were out having drinks and a meal, she'd be cautious about spending money that was intended for the church. Every weekend she was there - all weekend - her whole life was controlled by them. She ended up leaving our company to go and work in the church full-time which didn't come as a surprise.
I used to visit Auckland (NZ) occasionally for work and you'd see these lovely-looking young people (very healthy-looking - model types, but very friendly) offering a "free" personality test. They always seemed to have takers, which was a bit of a worry! People are strangely gullible.
It seemed to effect every part of her life - even if we were out having drinks and a meal, she'd be cautious about spending money that was intended for the church. Every weekend she was there - all weekend - her whole life was controlled by them. She ended up leaving our company to go and work in the church full-time which didn't come as a surprise.
I used to visit Auckland (NZ) occasionally for work and you'd see these lovely-looking young people (very healthy-looking - model types, but very friendly) offering a "free" personality test. They always seemed to have takers, which was a bit of a worry! People are strangely gullible.
TickTockBishBosh
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Miscavige is not a paedophile. He's an evil, money-grubbing, ruthless, physically abusive, imprisoning bastard, but he's not a paedophile. Hubbard, on the other hand... he once wrote about how seven-year-old girls should not have any issue with being passionately kissed by older men, and he also said that anyone who has a problem with child abuse is covering up for the fact that they were probably an abuser themselves in a past life.
There's enough stuff you can say about how evil Miscavige is without calling him a paedophile. For example, when one of his right-hand men turned on him, he made him live in a bamboo cage by a swamp for more than a year; Miscavige would regularly visit the swamp, make this man stand to attention, and then punch him in the stomach.
Shelly is alive, by all accounts, and a prisoner in the mountains, but she's not in The Hole. The Hole was an office-turned-prison at Scientology's HQ in California where Miscavige had scores of Scientology executives locked up for, in some cases, several years. They slept on the floor in there, had meals (usually slop) delivered to them, and had to literally beat confessions of 'crimes' against Scientology out of each other.I was just driving home thinking oh christ there is going to be mike rinder like people on my doorstep waiting for me
Yes i have just started her book!
I reckon Shelly is alive but locked up in that mountain dungeon.. The Hole i think they called it? He prob pops in to bash her up & have a quickie then leaves her for months again!
Whats so weird His dad Ron left & has spoken out against him... So how can that be passed of as bull as well as the other 1000s of people?
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