Scarlett Vickers Trial

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Mum stands by husband but has so much conviction in her belief she hides her face in the one photo we get of her.
 
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Murdering your own child and then lying about it has got to be up there with pretty much the worst of human behaviour
 
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In response, Vickers' father Barrie said: "He would never in a million years have hurt her deliberately. Scarlett was his life."

Even her own grandparent believes it was an accident... how did the knife go far so in then? Poor Scarlett.
 
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So he was pissed and high and they still hadn’t eaten dinner at 11pm. Sounds dysfunctional as hell.
 
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So he was pissed and high and they still hadn’t eaten dinner at 11pm. Sounds dysfunctional as hell.
I always thought the fact Scarlett stayed upstairs all day and only came down when she was hungry was very telling. Reminds me of my home life I hated being around my mum and that was me I only ever emerged for food. Normal families spend days together or watch TV together or go places. Not getting drunk and smoking weed
 
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I always thought the fact Scarlett stayed upstairs all day and only came down when she was hungry was very telling. Reminds me of my home life I hated being around my mum and that was me I only ever emerged for food. Normal families spend days together or watch TV together or go places. Not getting drunk and smoking weed
Yep same, scenes from my own childhood.

15 years is a joke. A functioning justice system seems like such a fantasy at this point.
 
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The mother is very lucky to not go down for murder as well, I think she saw the whole thing. How convieient she had her back turned when Scarlett called him a wimp and he stabbed her.
 
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The mother is very lucky to not go down for murder as well, I think she saw the whole thing. How convieient she had her back turned when Scarlett called him a wimp and he stabbed her.
I still find it incredibly strange the mother appears to have be completely left out of the whole case from a legal perspective. And she must have been in hiding for this to be the only photo of her (that I know of) because surely the press would be interested? All so odd.
 
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The whole story seems so far fetched to not be true, the fact everyone's seemingly standing by him as well. The only thing that makes me doubt it is the way the knife went in to her so deep. It's such a bizarre lie to have came up with though but then that's probably why they came up with it. It is interesting as well that the mother has had very little to say in all this when she's the only witness
 
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I think that they probably didn't have the best relationship anyway, he's been drunk and they have maybe argued and he's went too far. He would have to be close to her and have a tight grip on the knife to kill her. If he had just picked up the knife and thrown it, it may have landed somewhere else or done a little bit of damage. The fact her Mum and other family members all think it was an accident I can't understand it.
 
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Maybe it is indicative of how little care and concern was shown by her whole family. Cannot understand how they are accepting this feeble excuse.
 
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You’d think some school friends would know if she’d been unhappy at home. Maybe the community has closed ranks.
 
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I'm not a mum but if I'd been responsible for my child's death, directly or indirectly, I would be catatonic. I doubt I'd have cared very much what happened to my own life after that. Easy to say when not in that situation but still...I think if my actions had led to the death of any innocent child (and indeed, most adults apart from self-defence) I would find it impossible to live with. The least he and his wife could have done is admit to what really happened. I know others have said it. It wouldn't bring Scarlett back but at least it would give some respect to her memory. She has had no voice in any of this.
 
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I'm not a mum but if I'd been responsible for my child's death, directly or indirectly, I would be catatonic. I doubt I'd have cared very much what happened to my own life after that. Easy to say when not in that situation but still...I think if my actions had led to the death of any innocent child (and indeed, most adults apart from self-defence) I would find it impossible to live with. The least he and his wife could have done is admit to what really happened. I know others have said it. It wouldn't bring Scarlett back but at least it would give some respect to her memory. She has had no voice in any of this.
I totally agree! I have a daughter and if anything happened to her, I just wouldn't want to live anymore and if I knew that her dad was responsible (or anyone) no way would I be quiet about it (and I was in an abusive marriage and know how hard it is to speak out, but one thing I would never do is defend him if he hurt our child). I know nothing can bring her back, but surely if you loved your child you'd want justice no matter who was responsible?
 
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That's the first time I've heard the 'oh Scarlett ran into the knife' excuse. What a load of rubbish, lock her up for perjury.
 
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