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feteo

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The more I see of Sam Smith the more I believe in the illuminati controlling the entertainment industry and putting him through a humiliation ritual right now
Nah, he prob genuinely thinks his transformative renaissance slayssssss 🤪
 
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latranla

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Yuck we don’t need to see his body , he’s promoting an unhealthy image and blatant attention seeking levels of i. Your face campness
 
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How does he go the bog? Does the suit have a dung-hatch?

Hoenstly, Sam’s voice is awesome he doesn’t need all these bells and whistles nor does he need a re-invention. Is he being taken advantage of by a team of hired stylists or something?
 
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SarcasticEllis

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Had friends who were there - 4 songs - lights went out while they were singing. Venue asked everyone to stay put while it was resolved. Couldn’t - so gig cancelled. I see that they’ve said it was vocal issues now.

There has been criticism elsewhere - not on here - about people were stopped from leaving while venue were trying resolve issues.
Reasons for stopping people leaving include - invalidated any refund. If you leave a gig during the gig for any reason there’s no refund - even if it’s stopped. Until the venue / promoter say it’s cancelled - it’s not cancelled.

Safety - emptying a venue the size of the Manchester Arena requires planning & resources - it’s different to an evacuation and usually involves police & transport police ( given its near a railway station & centre of the city) it can take a bit of time to mobilise if earlier than expected but not an emergency.

As a regular gig goer, event staff are always brilliant & not on loads of £££. Some of them were likely on a break 4 songs in so it annoys me that people elsewhere are slagging them off for not “knowing what was going on etc etc especially so close to the anniversary of the attack” Linking it too the attack is just wrong in my eyes when staff were trying to do their job.

Tickets on sale for Birmingham at less than 50% via ticketing resell sites…

as you were xx
if Sam was aware of the vocal issues prior to the gig, even if a niggle, they should have cancelled beforehand and not during the gig - so much reorganisation and stress on everyone else, and for Manchester in particular there will always be that memory of the tragedy and worry about safety.
 
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HotButterfly

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Sam, you're not a quing. You're just a man in a dress. It's been done by male musicians since at least the 70s (and usually a lot better, as well). Love how it makes Sam act like he's the Second Coming or something 🙄
Almost since time began actually 😉 but yes your description is spot on.
 
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Mcomics

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I used to quite like Sam smith & genuinely couldn't care what he wears but... It's the ridiculous platform shoes! It's very apparent they can't walk in them & it just reminds me of those ridiculous shoes models wear on catwalks or a toddler in their mum's shoes.
 
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Pinko

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This will be taken off as soon as he is inside and another 'out there'outfit will be put on for hos performance and then for when he's sitting in the audience. 😴
 
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Guccigal

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Doesn’t this completely discount the well proven concept that social media does influence young people, significantly? A young child shouldn’t have access to social media, but young teens do. Hasn’t it been well proven that young people are significantly influenced by pornography, images, body image, violent sex acts? The rise in eating disorders, self harm, violence against women is not going away, it's worse

Do you have kids, or you are just someone who was once a child? I feel like you have an idealism about what it’s like to be a parent in modern times with the internet being so influential. I mean do you suggest its parents fault if kids see porn imagery and clothing on the Spotify playlist images, or songs entirely about sex acts on radio 1. It’s normal now, it’s not easy to escape it and it’s even harder for parents to manage it.

Of course parents want to protect their kids from mainstream imagery that is adult and porn influenced. Young teens dressing up or wanting to dress in PCV, chains, chokers and rubbing their nips in the name of ‘fashion’ would be inappropriate, no?

The reason I think it’s impactful it’s not just that sam looks stupid or I find it disgusting its that it’s just clearly a marketing ploy, there is no way of knowing whether this is ‘genuinely sam’ and their new style now, having stylists making a name for themselves, everyone is talking about Sam and it’s making Sam money, so no I don’t have to buy into it’s just freedom of expression just because you think it’s art - maybe it’s not?

You can’t use Madonna as an example. She is an absolute mess, has no music out and is now a joke
Cardi B took loads of flack
Lady Gaga has changed her image quite a lot since she got taken more seriously
I do have kids actually a 13 and 8 yo. My husband and I grew up very worldly, from poor and disrupted childhoods so we’ve both seen and sadly experienced a lot. Our goal with our kids isn’t to shield them from the world or hide things from them, the world is a shit place and every generation had their own “porn, sex, internet” hysteria. In our opinion the younger you’re exposed to the darkness of the world the less negatively impacted or likely to be influenced you are.

we encourage our kids to critically think about what they see and consume, we are open with them and in turn they feel free to ask us questions and we have chats about everything you’ve mentioned. We give them privacy while monitoring and tbh we’ve never found anything worrying so we must be doing something right. They have iPhones and social media just like their friends but they don’t mindlessly and secretly consume content, which is where I think the problem is. Some of daughters friends are really left to their own devices by their parents or overly sheltered and they are the ones dressing inappropriately or even talking to boys

and all the people I mentioned have at some point been widely praised for their antics or still are. Cardi b is still seen by many in the media and fans as a feminist icon of sorts. People suddenly calling it dark and demonic are the same people that called others conspiracy theorists for pointing out the same things back in 2010s

and yes I agree, my initial post literally said no one has to like, understand or support them but everyone going out of their way to humiliate them and make them feel like shit is very weird.
 
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