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redstraw16

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Yeah, let’s all take lessons on how to approach LGBT+ people from this person 🤨:

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I just want to clarify, I’m not supporting what she’s saying, I only posted it because Sam is now another person in her long ass list of enemies.

She apparently got turned down for a collab they were meant to be doing together last year (no surprise given the homophobia) and she’s had issues since.
 

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Ekathrina

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According to Stonewall ‘non binary’ comes under the trans umbrella. It’s not the general public that don’t know what they are talking about.
 
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Tui

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So are you saying because you hate football that makes you non binary 😂
You are man/male, no such thing as Non Binary 🙄

Sam Smith is a pathetic man, desparate for attention, he is a gay man with a fetish or two, years ago his fetish for women's/rubber clothing was kept behind closed doors, now it seems OK to parade your oddness on TV in front of children. 😡

Yes all loons, their behavior is not acceptable to the majority of sane people that know you're either a male, a female, gay, straight or bi, that's it, there is no more.
Less than 2% are born intersex.
Agree. Also even with intersex people they usually have genitalia/characteristics which align more with one sex than the other, it’s not a total 50:50 split
 
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ShadesMint

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During the time Sam was pretty quiet and no one really heard much of them, maybe only on social media or a news story here and there, apparently something horrific happened to Sam and they've fallen in with the wrong crowd, some of which are known to be quite persuasive and over bearing.
I have also heard that Sam is struggling with a lot of things but because of the company Sam is keeping right now, there's difficulty in them getting the help they need and away from certain people in his life at the moment.
I'm really interested to hear more about this. I feel sad that Sam has been through this. What happened?
 
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PeteM

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I do wonder how you and some others would react to a son or daughter of theirs telling them that they wish to be referred to using pronouns. Would you take the piss out of them?
 
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Sogdhitalley

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I don't know what to think of the situation really.
I've seen the videos and it doesn't look great for them but the girl also appears drunk/on something maybe?

I understand Sam's friends wanting to protect them but there are much better ways of doing it. We don't know what this girl was like before hand to deserve that reaction it's a very very difficult one, however, in one of the videos you do hear Sam say "Shut up" the videos can be found on tiktok Unfollow
 
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Amyx1518

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He claims to be NB (load of made up shite) not trans. How is thinking he looks ridiculous transphobic?
You're completely right, apologies. A lot of the general public seem to confuse NB with trans, though, I've found. But you're right. It's not thinking Sam looks ridiculous, cuz that is true, its other comments that come along with it that are the issue.
 
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Squittel

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It confuses the fuck out of me this "they/them" thing. When I say they or them, it's usually when I'm referring to more than one person
It confuses the fuck out of me too. I just go with it because I don’t actually know anyone in real life that demands it so I really only have to remember to do it very rarely for celebrities that go by it.
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He really is one or many sandwiches short of a picnic!! Wouldnt surprise me if he just puts all this on as a show as he knows itll get him publicity etc
Probably, a bit like lady gaga and her meet dress. I can’t knock it.
 
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Yupitsme!!

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I agree. He’s got a great voice. I liked his music before and even listened to his new album and thought it was good enough. I think maybe he just wants to stand out now and the music isn’t enough to do that.

100% he has ruined his career. He’s made himself a laughing stock. Maybe he wants to express himself but the skimpy clothes and “sexual” dancing just screams attention seeking. He’s alienated his original fan base/audience. As others have said here he must have the wrong people advising him.
It reminds me of christina aguilera dirty album, hopefully he will go back to his self again.. When artists release new material outwith the norm they take on that persona until their new album... Taylor swift, lady gaga and even beyonce with her sasha fierce, s Smith is no exception
 
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alldayeveryday

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The entertainment bloke on Lorraine just called Sam Smith he/him numerous times, even after correcting himself. Will be interesting to see what uproar that causes
 
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evie1975

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I have become increasingly irritated by Sam recently- simply because it feels like their music is being overplayed.
 
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He looks a hell of a lot more comfortable performing these days though. I always remember seeing this performance years ago and feeling quite sorry for him, being so clearly nervous.

I feel now like he isn’t comfy still, but he’s possibly just listening to bigger people who are ‘guiding him’ (or being wapped of his tits on prescription or non prescription stuff……) plus, a big stage show hides flaws, the live lounge really doesn’t so I can get the nerves going now.
I half question if this is why he’s shoved out in the press by publicists, they WILL get rid of shy nervous sam smith because the whole show gazing alternative kid scene has moved on from that. Kids want confidence, but sam smith is too old for the tiktok crowd tbh.
 
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#notanadad

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Worst Calvin Harris production I have ever heard. Seems like he's putting out all manner of shit to pay for his wedding. Complete with his fiancee on her clarinet feature. And part of it really sounds like fragma I need a miracle.
God is there a thread for Vick Hope? I can’t stand her😬
 
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Horsemonkey

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Or maybe, you know, I just don't want to see other people's bodies unsolicited. Its like in summer when both men and women forget hot to dress and you have to put up with seeing more of them than you want to.
Then why look at the video? Surely it's not "solicited" when you choose to watch it? 😅
 
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