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I do, it was made by a complete arsehole.
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RJF
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So he didnât say âwhite people should not have good jobsâ.
He said that the racial and gender makeup of those working in the science and engineering sector is not proportionate to that of the population en masse.
Two entirely different things.
lilyannrose
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The crime rate has soared while he's been Mayor. He seems totally unbothered about all the knife crime. I loathe him.
I don't live in London anymore, but Sadiq Khans comment is not a helpful comment in any way.
If women are attacked, its the fault of the attacker, no one else. By saying if you had been attacked, it was your responsibility, it takes responsibility away from the perpetrator not to do any raping. Men don't have to rape or murder women just because they see them alone in the street, or if they are drunk. Most of them manage not to. The reality is that women do have to protect themselves because its not enough if you are murdered to say ' Its the murderers fault, not mine' but it is still the responsibility of the men who perpetrate these crimes.
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ThePelican
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What did he say that was racist? Earlier, you claimed that he said "White people shouldn't have good jobs," which he didn't say. That was your misleading interpretation. So how is he being racist by saying that it's unfair to women and non-white people that 65% of those jobs are filled by white men?
ThePelican
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What he's trying to fix is the cultural barriers that make a lot of non-white people give up on the idea of working in STEM industries before they even finish school because they feel the odds are against them. He wants to level the playing field. Why isn't that a good thing?
RJF
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Because it didnât happen
Gloria Rostron
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Tangerine Cat
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I agree with you. Itâs the 'no good reason' bit as though itâs bad. And thatâs why I canât bear Khan, heâs so divisive and loves to wind people up.
And youâre correct that if that statement was turned around it would be a terrible thing to say towards black people.
"London's streets are not safe for women or girls"
Anyone else find this quote objectionable? The tragedy this week is headline news because it's something very rare. In all cities there's an increased risk as the population density is higher - simple maths. I don't think making out that London is different from elsewhere helps anyone! Leaving your home has risks, driving a car has risks. I've been attacked and mugged several times in London after being here for most of my adult life but I really don't see London as any more dangerous. The head of the met talks about it generally being safe but the Mayer says it's not safe.
Anyone else find this quote objectionable? The tragedy this week is headline news because it's something very rare. In all cities there's an increased risk as the population density is higher - simple maths. I don't think making out that London is different from elsewhere helps anyone! Leaving your home has risks, driving a car has risks. I've been attacked and mugged several times in London after being here for most of my adult life but I really don't see London as any more dangerous. The head of the met talks about it generally being safe but the Mayer says it's not safe.
Mark81
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Having worked in universities he has missed out a key underrepresented demographic, white men from underprivileged backgrounds. They are often the biggest demographic that don't receive the same opportunities (and there are official stats to prove that)
There are subjects and industries that don't receive a variety of applications in terms of demographic. That's not for the want of trying, unis actively outreach to schools and colleges etc to try and encourage wider demographics (especially girls) to be interested in engineering and technology subjects. Race wise they are open to all, with some subjects receiving higher applications from perceived minority backgrounds.
I think its more to do with cultural backgrounds, current pop culture of what's seen as trendy, and socio economic issues that stop people applying for certain things. And as for the industries themselves, do graduates stay in the country or do the work abroad, something common especially in engineering.
As usual with twitter, it is completely devoid of context.
There are subjects and industries that don't receive a variety of applications in terms of demographic. That's not for the want of trying, unis actively outreach to schools and colleges etc to try and encourage wider demographics (especially girls) to be interested in engineering and technology subjects. Race wise they are open to all, with some subjects receiving higher applications from perceived minority backgrounds.
I think its more to do with cultural backgrounds, current pop culture of what's seen as trendy, and socio economic issues that stop people applying for certain things. And as for the industries themselves, do graduates stay in the country or do the work abroad, something common especially in engineering.
As usual with twitter, it is completely devoid of context.
Where us the eye roll reaction emoji when you need it
Gloria Rostron
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I cannot stand this man. He is racist. He said white people should not have good jobs. He talks of people of Jim Davidson's "ilk", what does he mean, white people?
Gloria Rostron
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when you game equality of outcome as Khan suggests equality of opportunity is taken away. There is a reason why so many white men are in science and itâs nothing to do with racism
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WestSideIsDaBest
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No his comments are not helpful at all. But he only comes out to jump on a passing band wagon.
You could argue london is safer as thereâs more people about at night than out on the Suburb streets.
You could argue london is safer as thereâs more people about at night than out on the Suburb streets.