Personally, I'd feel more concerned about the fact that someone believed they had been raped. But that's just me.
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Testimony is a form of evidence.Evidence and testimony are not the same thing. Have a word.
This is where we are going wrong people!
I want to make it very clear that I’m not saying that any of the women on the program tonight have made false allegations the point I want to make is about the trial by social media aspect.
If this woman in the article didn’t go to police and make reports, instead had gone onto social media and publicly accused these men of rape and sexual assault. Going by the logic shown by some on this thread- she should absolutely not be questioned as she is speaking out about these horrible, vile creatures who have raped her. Of course these men are guilty, sure she’s saying they did it, isn’t that enough? And sure Betty down the road says she knows one of the men from work years ago and she said he is a sleeze so that definitely makes him guilty. And if anyone questioned her they’d be labeled as a “not all men” supporter and victim blamer.
Of course serious sexual assaults and rapes happen daily, and of course those need thorough investigation and justice, and of course a lot (majority) of the time they don’t get that. But the other side of it is that people make false allegations, this is why the whole ‘trial by social media’ just doesn’t work. I’m a survivor of sexual abuse, and I never got justice but it doesn’t mean I can go on social media and blast their name and picture everywhere with “rapist” written in big, bold letters as a caption or email their boss and tell them they’re a rapist and hope they’ll lose their job, It just doesn’t work that way.
Wasn’t there a trial recently in the UK because a woman told her new partner she was raped by a man she met online, new boyfriend murdered the alleged rapist and covered him in acid. There was no proof that he committed the crime and that woman’s word got him murdered.
Just because the judicial system has failed people, doesn’t mean it can be completely bypassed and people take matters into their own hands.
The police are a massive part of the problem. You can’t be claiming to be completely oblivious to that? You seem to think you’ve got lots of knowledge about this subject, but you also think going to the police is a foolproof solution?
It’s only been 2 years since a police officer raped and murdered a woman in London. And his colleagues were then charged after it was revealed that they had “banter” on WhatsApp about raping and beating females themselves.
but yes go to the police, it’ll solve everything. Truly upstanding citizens there to protect females 🥲
Have you read the Times article? They fact checked every single detail
It does if that evidence is similar to other victims accounts. It paints an overall picture of ongoing predatory behaviour and an MO of grooming/manipulating, or even details of the SA themselves.
If the account of a victim is not evidence, then why is a rape case impossible to take to trial without a victim willing to testify?
And it's not Wikipedia it's the Oxford dictionary
Under section 9 of the criminal justice act (1967), verbal testimony is submissable as evidence in a court of law
Edited to add: happy to provide you with a link to the full copy of the act if you want to look it up yourself. It’s all in legalese though so you might need a grown up to explain it to you.
It is so interesting that people on here are going on as if it’s one word against another. It is literally MULTIPLE women with many clips of his behaviour in plain sight and witnesses. God forbid any of your friends, sisters, daughters etc ever end up in court with people as sympathetic towards blatant evidence as this.
I am nothing so my opinion means nothing
It was weaker than I thought the documentary but it’s out there !!!
However it it is here - I have alerted at least 3 more people who would not have known!!
Hopefully David Walliams next
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It was weaker than I thought the documentary but it’s out there !!!
However it it is here - I have alerted at least 3 more people who would not have known!!
Hopefully David Walliams next
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Watch the documentary and read the Times article.
Oh, is that right? So basically, if there was no third party there to witness the rape, it didn't happen, did it?
You seem to be terribly defensive of rapists. Wonder why.
Unfortunately it’s probably only when something affects this type of person themselves and they’re like “wait, what do you mean this isn’t enough evidence?” that such people actually “get it” (assuming of course they’re not just being trolls, which, well…)
nah this investigation started before he did that.
I remember seeing this video of him and thought he does tread that line often, even in this video.
I think it was the other way around, he started his anti establishment schtick because he knew it would all come out one day, and this (in his mind) gives him a shield.
People on here complaining about media trials - that’s what extensive libel laws protect! And the UK has very strict libel laws compared to the US, see Katie Hopkins losing, Ian Hislop losing etc
Someone brave enough to speak positively about him.
Exactly! And he probably got wind that it was coming so spun this whole conspiracy bullshit and spoke out against MSM. He may be stupid but he’s cunning.
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McAlpine v Bercow is a great one too. It shows how even retweeting misinformation can land you in the tit.
I do love the 'well he didnt rape me' type of support
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