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You should be a film critic or an academic with this excellent analysis (I don't know your profession)!
Lol thank you, I studied philosophy and I work in the film and tv industry (so watching Ruby's content is usually painful from both the academic as well as the creative/technical perspective).
(Btw I'm unable to add one of these blue OT boxes, so maybe I shouldn't diss Ruby for her technical skills.)
 
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They could have picked any number of intelligent, well-rounded and eloquent members of Gen Z but they picked this clown 😭 even Jade would have been a better option.
 
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how did they select the panel members? could people apply or did they asked Ruby specifically?
 
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Lol thank you, I studied philosophy and I work in the film and tv industry (so watching Ruby's content is usually painful from both the academic as well as the creative/technical perspective).
(Btw I'm unable to add one of these blue OT boxes, so maybe I shouldn't diss Ruby for her technical skills.)
Your background shows! 🙂 Always nice when expertise comes in handy outside of work!
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The audacity to publicly review Linda Woodhead's (co-written) book on Goodreads ("there were some good passages though") and then showing up next to her at the forum 😆
 
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The audacity to publicly review Linda Woodhead's (co-written) book on Goodreads ("there were some good passages though") and then showing up next to her at the forum 😆
The fact she published this online BEFORE meeting her, and it wasn’t even a particularly positive review! It would be cringe if the review was 5 stars because of the brown nosing, but I can’t imagine meeting someone I’d criticized publicly a few days before 😳

Omg I’m MORTIFIED for her… we always talk in here about how she has no social skills and no friends, this is the perfect illustration of that
 
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It's beyond cringe and I can't look away. I keep hoping someone starts playing music to signal that she needs to wrap it up and leave like they do at the Oscars when rambling speeches run too long.

Edit: Oh god, the audio for the stream glitched out when they recorded it, so now there's delayed audio of Ruby playing over the current audio of her talking and it sounds like there's duelling Rubies in the room both talking over each other and vying for the spotlight, neither of them making sense. It's utter madness. I love it.
Oh tit! Im dying. The cringe!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

She has dropped the child voice and is using her Princess Kate/ Emma Watson accent. She is repeating the same thing over and over omg. Noooo.
 
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This is what happens when you are raised to believe that everything you do or say is perfect
 
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The joys of working remotely is watching this cringe during my lunch break oh boy. She's trying so hard to be philosophical and whimsical and it's so jarring. She says um and uh a lot and you'd think for someone who constantly wants to be the centre of attention during seminars and talks she'd have a bit more poise when handling public speaking. But the audio goes funny 28 mins in and it's so uncomfortable to watch so couldn't keep listening to Ruby oops I just don't understand why she is there if we want to talk about Gen Z turning to tiktok and being snowflakes we'd want someone who doesn't come from a privileged bubble. It's more relatable when someone like me on tiktok shares a relatable mental health story compared to the girl living in a mansion who managed to get private therapy at the height of the pandemic thanks to mummy and daddy's riches.
 
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Oh god, the audio for the stream glitched out when they recorded it, so now there's delayed audio of Ruby playing over the current audio of her talking and it sounds like there's duelling Rubies
Overlapping Ruby voices is not a new concept for us. Its a common practice in her videos anyway.
 
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Arrogant little wick 😆

Older generations indeed 🙄 is Ruby aware that the youngest Millennials are 27 (ish, depending on the line in the sand), hardly doddery old fools who shake their fists at clouds.

She's probably humbled enough that she'll come out with a video to contradict the panel. "I don't think it's halpful tyoo have ganarational starayotypes. Ganaration Axe had strong idantitees such as ponk and havvy metal, howavvar..." *points finger*
 
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"A tryoo masterpiece which was mostly disappointing with a few good sackshons.

OIY...dyon't nyeed this bock as oiy'm already parrfacktly awaaahr of the JAN Z stroggles, loike whan you can't gat the tannant of the cottage yoo own tyoo stop ahhsking yoo to fix things fwore tham, whan daddy is foive minutes late droiying 700 moiyles tyoo pick yoo opp from uni that weekend, whan you have too mannie free proddockts to fit intyoo a videeyow and can't chyeese which one tyo show an ondeclaahred ad fwore farrst, or whan your agent wyon't stohp procrastiyating and johst gat you the £1million bock contract you desaarve.

This bock is mwore yoosfol tyoo the older janaration (loiyke moiy wonnderfol grandmammaaah) who dyon't know what it's loiyke to live thyoo the stroggle, as this will halp tham onderstand what words loiyke "poggers" mean and how to dab and floss, which oiy JANUINELY already knyew. Haha!"
 
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Has the video been deleted? Kinda miffed, I almost wanted to watch the cringe :(
 
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Guys I need to unwatch this thread, @gossip_guy’s Ruby impression is becoming my default internal monologue. Someone said something incorrect at work just now and my brain immediately went “um ACKSHULLY” 😭😭
 
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Guys I need to unwatch this thread, @gossip_guy’s Ruby impression is becoming my default internal monologue. Someone said something incorrect at work just now and my brain immediately went “um ACKSHULLY” 😭😭
did your finger go up, too?

I dreamt about Ruby today. But I can't remember what the dream was about. I just know it was about Ruby.
 
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Has the video been deleted? Kinda miffed, I almost wanted to watch the cringe :(
Yeah it's showing as not available. :( I guess this is due to the faulty audio rather than Ruby's disaster of a speech.

I hate that Ruby was there representing Gen Z. Yes she's an influencer, but her brand is living like an upper-class Victorian child. She's not exactly in touch with the lives of the 'average' person in her demographic. I think this is one issue with the premise though - treating Gen Z as a homogeneous block. IRL, the mentality & values of this age group will also be shaped by cultural background, class (there's still a big North-South divide in England) and individual differences. Maybe the panel goes on to explore this, but I stopped watching after the sound became messed up. Anyway, just thought that the inclusion of Ruby did Gen Z a disservice.

The fact she published this online BEFORE meeting her, and it wasn’t even a particularly positive review! It would be cringe if the review was 5 stars because of the brown nosing, but I can’t imagine meeting someone I’d criticized publicly a few days before 😳

Omg I’m MORTIFIED for her… we always talk in here about how she has no social skills and no friends, this is the perfect illustration of that
Omg, how awkward! Ruby has no sense.
 
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Is there any brave soul who can watch this and give the rest of us a run down of what she says?
I’ve had to turn it off within 30s of her talking coz I’m just dying of cringe 😭.
She just rambles for what feels like an hour about how JAN Z are ACKSHUALLY all snyowkflyakes and that's a good thing!

Snowflakes are only around for a short time and are precious and beautiful and impermanent, unlike Gen X or Millennials who have achieved immortality, I guess?

Snowflakes melt! But snowflakes are wonderful and ethereal and you just want to freeze them so that they will last forever, and Ruby januinely hasn't lost the thread and thought she was on a panel about staying 12 forever.

(After this, the doubled-up audio mostly drowns her out, so it's really tough to make out what she's saying.)

Being a snowflake means that people are open about their feelings and what bothers them! This is part of being the social media generation, because people are always VARRY HONNAST and VARRY KOIND on social media (JOHST LOIYKE RYOOBEE!) and the stereotype that social media only shows a curated, version of life is NYOT TRYOO at all and hasn't been for many years, and Ruby knows this because she is a YOOCHOOBA!

And TikTok is VARRY GUD because it's more informal and people are always more honest about everything there, too (JOHST LOIYKE RYOOBEE!). And trigger warnings are good, because they allow people to avoid triggering content and it's easy to add them (JOHST LOIKE RYOOBEE DOES!). NATURALLY we want to help people - we AWWHL WANT TYO HALP PEOPLE and we want to avoid hurting people (JOHST LOIKE RYOOBEE DOES!).

The first rebuttal/follow-up question asks Ruby if she thinks there's anything lost by sheltering Gen Z or them embracing this "snowflake" identity considering the notion that strength comes through struggle and adversity. Ruby rambles something simplistic and childish about how we shouldn't promote or enable suffering as suffering is bad (again, coming from Ruby, who has spent 7 years promoting toxic productivity and ED habits with zero trigger warnings or response to criticism...yikes).

And then the chair of the panel says, "Thankyou, Ruby, that's very...good? 🤔" and struggles to say something nice, like a teacher trying to be incredibly polite to a student who answered a class question with unrelated incoherence, but at least they participated? And then he takes her mic away. (They only have two mics so the panel had to share, but it comes across as a very funny 'Mmkay, you have nothing of value to say, you won't be needing this...' moment.)

Khushal speaks next and the audio issues get worse, but he has much more interesting things to say - the panel are engaged, taking notes, the audience are listening intently, vs the blank stares and confusion Ruby got.

I skimmed ahead to the next time Ruby speaks - hilariously it comes just after Khushal is giving a damning speech on the dishonesty and lies prevalent on social media and people's willingness to absorb and believe the lies they see and accept them as truth and to conform to and imitate them.

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Ruby is grinning and nodding along with recognition through the whole speech. "YAS! OIY LIE TYO PEOPLE AND GAT THAM TYO IMITATE MOIY FICTIONAL, DAMAGING HABITS AWL THE TOIYME! HAHA!" The audacity.

She's allowed to speak again and the panel goes from this when listening to Khushal charismatically say coherent and interesting things about social media consumption:

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...to this when Ruby starts umming and ahhinhg and yammering about how the wahrhld is varry big and connackted:

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The body language says it all. From rapt attention to utter disinterest almost immediately. After she's done rambling, Bobby Duffy (the chair) very pointedly mentions she's basically just covered stuff discussed in his and Linda's (also on the panel) book and the points are "more fully reflected" in the book (he jokingly mentions that the book is for sale at the back). It reads very much as him noticing that Ruby tried to parrot their own material and butchered it. Busted.

She next speaks during the last Q&A section. Someone in the crowd asks about attitudes towards neurodiversity in the workplace and the generational divide in attitudes towards work and discussing mental health issues. They ask for workplace advice regarding this. The panel let Ruby answer the question - someone with no empathy for others and zero real experience in the workplace. I couldn't tell what she was saying due the the volume of her voice and the audio issues, but I can't imagine it was anything worthwhile judging by everyone's body language and how quickly Linda takes the mic away to steer to conversation to something succinct and coherent.

After that, Ruby next talks during the final wrap-up comments and umms and ahhs her way through some gibberish about how social media existed in a vacuum it'd be really good. What does that even mean?!

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The entire panel looks distinctly unimpressed, and (not for the first time while Ruby's speaking) Rabbi Janner-Klausner looks dismayed and turns away to give Khushnal another pointed look.

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I really hope she didn't apply to KCL for her Masters because this should be the last nail in the coffin for those chances. Presumably they invited her to speak because she seemed impressive on paper and this is what they got, I doubt they'd want to make the same mistake again.
 
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Arrogant little wick 😆

Older generations indeed 🙄 is Ruby aware that the youngest Millennials are 27 (ish, depending on the line in the sand), hardly doddery old fools who shake their fists at clouds.

She's probably humbled enough that she'll come out with a video to contradict the panel. "I don't think it's halpful tyoo have ganarational starayotypes. Ganaration Axe had strong idantitees such as ponk and havvy metal, howavvar..." *points finger*
Whenever someone describes something as "interesting, but' it always comes across super passive aggressive lol
 
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She just rambles for what feels like an hour about how JAN Z are ACKSHUALLY all snyowkflyakes and that's a good thing!

Snowflakes are only around for a short time and are precious and beautiful and impermanent, unlike Gen X or Millennials who have achieved immortality, I guess?

Snowflakes melt! But snowflakes are wonderful and ethereal and you just want to freeze them so that they will last forever, and Ruby januinely hasn't lost the thread and thought she was on a panel about staying 12 forever.

(After this, the doubled-up audio mostly drowns her out, so it's really tough to make out what she's saying.)

Being a snowflake means that people are open about their feelings and what bothers them! This is part of being the social media generation, because people are always VARRY HONNAST and VARRY KOIND on social media (JOHST LOIYKE RYOOBEE!) and the stereotype that social media only shows a curated, version of life is NYOT TRYOO at all and hasn't been for many years, and Ruby knows this because she is a YOOCHOOBA!

And TikTok is VARRY GUD because it's more informal and people are always more honest about everything there, too (JOHST LOIYKE RYOOBEE!). And trigger warnings are good, because they allow people to avoid triggering content and it's easy to add them (JOHST LOIKE RYOOBEE DOES!). NATURALLY we want to help people - we AWWHL WANT TYO HALP PEOPLE and we want to avoid hurting people (JOHST LOIKE RYOOBEE DOES!).

The first rebuttal/follow-up question asks Ruby if she thinks there's anything lost by sheltering Gen Z or them embracing this "snowflake" identity considering the notion that strength comes through struggle and adversity. Ruby rambles something simplistic and childish about how we shouldn't promote or enable suffering as suffering is bad (again, coming from Ruby, who has spent 7 years promoting toxic productivity and ED habits with zero trigger warnings or response to criticism...yikes).

And then the chair of the panel says, "Thankyou, Ruby, that's very...good? 🤔" and struggles to say something nice, like a teacher trying to be incredibly polite to a student who answered a class question with unrelated incoherence, but at least they participated? And then he takes her mic away. (They only have two mics so the panel had to share, but it comes across as a very funny 'Mmkay, you have nothing of value to say, you won't be needing this...' moment.)

Khushal speaks next and the audio issues get worse, but he has much more interesting things to say - the panel are engaged, taking notes, the audience are listening intently, vs the blank stares and confusion Ruby got.

I skimmed ahead to the next time Ruby speaks - hilariously it comes just after Khushal is giving a damning speech on the dishonesty and lies prevalent on social media and people's willingness to absorb and believe the lies they see and accept them as truth and to conform to and imitate them.

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Ruby is grinning and nodding along with recognition through the whole speech. "YAS! OIY LIE TYO PEOPLE AND GAT THAM TYO IMITATE MOIY FICTIONAL, DAMAGING HABITS AWL THE TOIYME! HAHA!" The audacity.

She's allowed to speak again and the panel goes from this when listening to Khushal charismatically say coherent and interesting things about social media consumption:

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...to this when Ruby starts umming and ahhinhg and yammering about how the wahrhld is varry big and connackted:

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The body language says it all. From rapt attention to utter disinterest almost immediately. After she's done rambling, Bobby Duffy (the chair) very pointedly mentions she's basically just covered stuff discussed in his and Linda's (also on the panel) book and the points are "more fully reflected" in the book (he jokingly mentions that the book is for sale at the back). It reads very much as him noticing that Ruby tried to parrot their own material and butchered it. Busted.

She next speaks during the last Q&A section. Someone in the crowd asks about attitudes towards neurodiversity in the workplace and the generational divide in attitudes towards work and discussing mental health issues. They ask for workplace advice regarding this. The panel let Ruby answer the question - someone with no empathy for others and zero real experience in the workplace. I couldn't tell what she was saying due the the volume of her voice and the audio issues, but I can't imagine it was anything worthwhile judging by everyone's body language and how quickly Linda takes the mic away to steer to conversation to something succinct and coherent.

After that, Ruby next talks during the final wrap-up comments and umms and ahhs her way through some gibberish about how social media existed in a vacuum it'd be really good. What does that even mean?!

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The entire panel looks distinctly unimpressed, and (not for the first time while Ruby's speaking) Rabbi Janner-Klausner looks dismayed and turns away to give Khushnal another pointed look.

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I really hope she didn't apply to KCL for her Masters because this should be the last nail in the coffin for those chances. Presumably they invited her to speak because she seemed impressive on paper and this is what they got, I doubt they'd want to make the same mistake again.
These photos are hilarious! You really picked up on the atmosphere! Everyone enthralled with what Krushnal is saying, except for her (does she seriously have a scrunchy around her wrist?) to no one listening to her when she speaks. This says it all! Ruby is so stuck in her imaginary bubble she hasn't got a clue as to what is going on around her. She is probably patting herself on the back thinking, oooh, this will help me get into Oxford. Um, no. Just the opposite, girl. You just made a fool of yourself!
 
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I get the feeling that the organizers of this event might have decided late in the planning that they wanted a Gen Z social media personality on the panel. Maybe they turned to Sixteenth and that's how they wound up with Ruby? I can't imagine they'd have picked her if they'd had time to do more research and find someone who would've actually had something---anything!---intelligent to say.

I'm not embarrassed for Ruby as much as I am for everyone else on that stage. She's so out of her depth that she's wasting everyone's time. She really has no business being there at all. It reminds me of the way that Ivanka Trump used to show up at important geopolitical conferences in one of her "baby doll CEO" dresses and and act like she had Important Thoughts to Share while everyone else just had to sit there suffering. I'm amazed they kept letting Ruby speak after that incoherent opening about snowflakes and fragility and Ian McEwan. Whoever booked this nitwit is really going to have some explaining to do to their boss.

I wonder if she did any preparation for this event or not. I'd suspect not, since her performance is little more than a live-action version of the same meaningless monologues in her videos. If she did prepare, and this is what she came up with, that's kinda worse TBH. One way or the other, this was just a catastrophic fail.
 
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I wonder if she did any preparation for this event or not. I'd suspect not, since her performance is little more than a live-action version of the same meaningless monologues in her videos. If she did prepare, and this is what she came up with, that's kinda worse TBH. One way or the other, this was just a catastrophic fail.
I suspect the extent of her preparation was skim-reading the book from the other panel members to try to parrot their ideas and impress them (which they seem to have picked up on immediately).

She probably also Googled for quotes about Gen Z and/or social media so she could shoehorn in a few "Ian McEwan says..." quotes in her usual GCSE essay approach to conversation, but I imagine that was it.
 
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