I hadn’t heard of this so just had a read….first thoughts are an accident and she panicked as she was drunk and didn’t want to get in trouble, then regretted it later and went to look for him. But how would he have cuts on his face and arms?! And swollen eyes?! Need to see the doorbell footage I guess. What do you think?!
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Yes maybe a ‘decent bloke’ would take responsibility for his reactions if he felt he was being provoked and walk away.
I still can’t make head nor tail of this one 
www.thescottishsun.co.uk
Dad & son who murdered and mutilated men in 'orgy of sadistic savagery' jailed
A FATHER and son who murdered and mutilated two men in an orgy of sadistic violence were jailed for life today. Ian MacLeod, 66, and Dean MacLeod, 42, were both ordered to serve at least 34 years i…
www.thescottishsun.co.uk
I'm from Edinburgh and at the time there were so many rumours about what had happened and everyone was like "no way, that's too brutal" but turns out it was all true! I don't know why they inflicted such brutality, it's just absolutely awful.I still can’t make head nor tail of this one
Dad & son who murdered and mutilated men in 'orgy of sadistic savagery' jailed
A FATHER and son who murdered and mutilated two men in an orgy of sadistic violence were jailed for life today. Ian MacLeod, 66, and Dean MacLeod, 42, were both ordered to serve at least 34 years i…
That’s horrific. But I couldn’t stop myself from reading to the end!I still can’t make head nor tail of this one
Dad & son who murdered and mutilated men in 'orgy of sadistic savagery' jailed
A FATHER and son who murdered and mutilated two men in an orgy of sadistic violence were jailed for life today. Ian MacLeod, 66, and Dean MacLeod, 42, were both ordered to serve at least 34 years i…
Glad they’ve got appropriate sentences.
Also - absolutely not victim-blaming in the slightest - it says that one had previously said the father was planning to kill him. I can’t see any reason you’d agree to go to the home of someone you were worried would do that to you.
If 'Bronco' Macleod had got a more appropriate sentencing for this, the double murder might not have happened https://www.eastlothiancourier.com/news/13553939.corkscrew-attacker-jailed/
He’s 28 and he’s been sentenced to “life” with a minimum of just under 20 years. Wtaf. I know it’s a minimum but how the hell does dismembering your wife into over 200 pieces not warrant a whole life order?! Plenty of time to think “hang on, what I’m doing here is wrong” and to stop. The sentencing guidelines really need a huge overhaul.I read this article this morning, another man killing his wife, poor woman was only 26. The details are quite upsetting.
Holly Bramley death: 'Monster' cut wife's body into over 200 pieces
Nicholas Metson stabbed Holly Bramley then dismembered her body and dumped her remains in a river.www.bbc.co.uk
I despair. Says he also was fined for domestic assault on his wife and her two daughters. When are clearly dangerous people going to be sentenced properly. Someone like that is never going to suddenly decide not to hurt (or worse) again.
Plead guilty so got time knocked off
I saw the sentence, minimum of 19 years. Wtf??
IMO that should be wiped out by the fact they didn’t find all of the body parts
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3 years and 3 months for the ‘friend’ who helped dispose of her, and one year of that was other offences
I’m from Edinburgh also, unbelievable to read all the rumours were true! . Any idea on motive?
No idea on motives, I think I read somewhere that they were bullying the victims for months, taking their money etc. Not sure why they decided to kill them. They bought gloves, forensic suits and shoes so it was very premeditated. Hopefully that will be them away for the rest of their days.
In regards to the "man" who was sentenced for murdering Holly, 20 years is ridiculous. He gets out in his 50s? I truly believe if you murder someone brutally and then dismember then and don't stop then you should get a whole life order. The friend should've got 20 years alone. Sentencing in this country needs to change to protect others.
Any idea what the initials stood for that they wrote on their victims?!
The YLT? It's young Leith team. I mean they were 40 and 60 young team seems so strange.
Young leith team. Bronco’s being doing violence for decades
Oh it could be a passport photo! Hadn’t thought of that.
That was my first thought too. An accident, she maybe half knew she hit him but left anyway then sobered up and realised what she’d maybe done. But then again the cover up story of therw being a fight in the house and they dumped him setting her up. But I don’t know I don’t think there would have been time for them to come up with it?!
I don’t know if anyone remembers the prolific rapist The Fox from the mid-1980’s. He’s eligible for parole this year.
You’d like to think it would be a resounding no. But well, stupider things have happened.
Malcolm Fairley: Documentary reveals 'The Fox' eligible for parole
"The Fox" is eligible for a parole board hearing, a Channel 5 TV documentary will reveal.
www.bbc.co.uk
You’d like to think it would be a resounding no. But well, stupider things have happened.
I am astonished at the 19 year minimum sentence for the Holly Bramley murder. Even with a reduction for a guilty plea I feel that this crime was so abhorrent it deserves far longer. His guilty plea is completely irrelevant- he should not be rewarded for this. I hope it is referred as being unduly lenient.
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yes I do, I was living in his ‘triangle’ at the time and people were terrified.I don’t know if anyone remembers the prolific rapist The Fox from the mid-1980’s. He’s eligible for parole this year.
Malcolm Fairley: Documentary reveals 'The Fox' eligible for parole
"The Fox" is eligible for a parole board hearing, a Channel 5 TV documentary will reveal.www.bbc.co.uk
You’d like to think it would be a resounding no. But well, stupider things have happened.
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