PTWM #74 Stop making a t1t of yourself and pee off.

[FridaK]

Do it like this ....
On this post is Josh

- Pissed
- Weird & Fugly
- All of the above
- Love Josh. He’s misunderstood and ‘dead fit.’

ETA - - Frida you are going to hell

 

[Cosytidy]

I might be a bit behind (this thread moves fast!) but have worked in DV so wanted to clarify a few things.

-you don’t necessarily need specific qualifications to start out in DV work. I didn’t & worked in refuge initially, where you can learn off other experienced staff.

-the Freedom Programme facilitator training is relatively inexpensive & just a few days long. There are some positives about this programme but the woman who delivers/owns it gave me the creeps. Coercive & controlling IMO (so right up PTWM’s street). She has strict intellectual property rights around it so it can’t be copied & has to be delivered EXACTLY as she says. Which isn’t great when it was devised 20-30 years ago & has celebrity/political references from that time. Also Pat Craven (owner) puts pressure on you to sign up to train the trainer FP training, so to me it’s like a pyramid scheme. She was telli g me about the money I could make. Wrong in my book.
In my area the FP isn’t used much-other DA awareness programmes have taken over.

-to be respected you need to be an IDVA. IDVA training is HARD. Takes a year, costs a few grand & the assignments were bigger than my degree ones. U need DV work experience for this.

-she can’t just faff about delivering the FP & sending clients on their way. Safeguarding issues will arise during the FP sessions-they will need to refer to children’s services, MARAC etc. For MARAC you need to be signed up to an information sharing protocol. Otherwise she will have to refer to another DV service, or face the prospect of being subject to a domestic homicide review.
Also, once you start referring people to children’s services you may find your FP being less popular.

-how the fuck is this funded? Surely not local authority funding that most DA services rely on. However she is funded she will be taking away funding from other DA services. That marlonrando (has he gone?) is why I’m raging about this.

-Rachel Williams is a DV campaigner. She has a sad back story. She talks about this day in day out & is dedicated. I have respect for her But don’t agree with her about the Freedom Programme. I think RW is a classic example of why (IMO) people who’ve experienced DV often aren’t best placed to work with victims. She still comes across as affected by it (rightly so) & I don’t think can be objective.

Essay over

 

[4thefun]

Signed up after long time watching - I dreamt this thread title and had to share it to get it out my head..... don’t like the taste but keeps drinking, always checking to see what the tattlers are thinking ! Sorry if you think it’s crap - just had to get it out my brain

 

[Lucyinthesky88]

Thread suggestion:

Can’t handle her kids, married to a bore,
All because her mum left when she was four.

 

[FridaK]

Mrs Hinch had the same quote up this evening who copie who

I rewrote that quote for her It’s a bit more on point now

 

[FridaK]

Came here to look at the comments, not disappointed... There are some pretty bonkers / unhinged responses here

There are training courses for IDVAs and ISVAs via Safelives, some DV services might want higher quals for their posts. But ultimately, and very sadly, most DV roles are not much more than min wage and it is very common (in all supported services), and often a requirement of tender, for providers to be ex service users or have lived experience of the issues they are supporting.

It seems very odd to me that people would not welcome this service

I’m sorry that you don’t like to read other peoples opinions. Perhaps this isn’t the place for you as it is a forum of many users. Not unlike Instagram really, only comments here don’t get routinely deleted when asked about historical financial impropriety.

Also could you refrain from using terms like bonkers and unhinged. It’s just not putting any ‘KINDNESS’ into our little world here. It seems a little unfair of you.

Personally I wish Rachael all the luck in the world when she announces to her followers that they have to pay for her project that will only be accessible to a small minority of women in the Torbay area. I’m sure that people will support her nationwide nevertheless...... or maybe not, I guess we will see

 

[Youre a wizard Harry]

Josh’s new nickname can now be Jojo from the Po Po

 

[CuppaT]

Coming from a domestic..child sexual..financial abuse background and I AM A SURVIVOR ..i am horrified and sickened by what this moron ptwm is hoping to achieve..i was living in Torbay at some parts of my past life and id be horrified if id been "signposted" to this charlatan..i was and probably still am very disturbed and destroyed and its taken probably another 20 years for me to feel nearly "normal" so to speak....the few women I encountered along my route were highly specialised professionals and some were also "volunteers who had been through similar" so could help empathise etc....all sounded great but he still found me and raped me and set my flat on fire with me and his daughter in....so I am fucking horrified and disrespected by this..its made me cry and triggered my nerves all over again...she needs to be fucking stopped!!!!!! Ps..sorry but if V etc are knowing anything and staying quiet then they are complicit in what will happen to the next generation of victims

 

[goaldigger]

Hey Rach, you really need to be more careful what you share on SM. This safe space you're creating for vulnerable woman? I found it in 5 mins from what you've shared online. If I can do it when I'm watching TV and have no real interest in it's whereabouts, imagine how easy it will be for a determined ex partner?

 

[goaldigger]

Came here to look at the comments, not disappointed... There are some pretty bonkers / unhinged responses here

There are training courses for IDVAs and ISVAs via Safelives, some DV services might want higher quals for their posts. But ultimately, and very sadly, most DV roles are not much more than min wage and it is very common (in all supported services), and often a requirement of tender, for providers to be ex service users or have lived experience of the issues they are supporting.

It seems very odd to me that people would not welcome this service

As a local, I absolutely welcome any provision that helps women escape DA. I also understand that a lot of these types of roles are filled by women who have experienced DA themselves, they are the best people to understand what other women may be going through.
I am concerned that the people linked to this particular provision have shown no regard for safeguarding, privacy and appear to have quite a renegade approach to fundraising etc.

 

[FridaK]

Fair point to clarify, the unhinged comment was in relation to someone up thread who said R had signed her own death warrant. Also, I'm a big fan of KINDNESS but I don't think much of what is said here falls into that category.

I disagree, we are really quite nice to each other most days. Apart from one or two rogue users. Apologies, I didn’t see the comment relating to a ‘death warrant.’ It’s similar to when people don’t see comments relating to qualifications and regulations and accounting etc, easily missed.

In any case we welcome your comments and thanks for using your very first post to clarify so clearly the validity of this project. It’s almost as though you feel there may be something disprove? Could it be that you are concerned that there maybe weight in the comments written here? Worried about auditing maybe? A bit sceptical about whether this endeavour will result in someone reporting the CIC to companies house for improper running. Perhaps concerned about a CIC or two of your own being collateral damage?

I have many questions if you are in the know. Care to share?

 

[DipsyDoodle]

I hate to ever comment on anyone's parenting, each to their own and all that but the thing that's really bugged me (the most) as there were quite a few faux pauxs today ( that's not even the right way to spell it is it? Sorry guys) was when she had quality 1 on 1 time today with Wibble not once did she try and engage him in conversation, no oooo look at the bikes, roar, broom broom, etc I find that really fucking odd, when kids are his age there's nothing nicer than hearing them repeat,or try and repeat in the cutest way possible everything you say

The worst thing is, this is only what she chooses to show. She's very quick to say "well my stories are less than 10 minutes out of my day, you can't judge me on them", when all that makes me think is that out of 24 hours, if the 10 minutes you decide to upload shows you belittling your husband, moaning about your older kids and stepkids, and ignoring your toddler while he's having sensory play with an unflushed loo, what the fuck goes on in the other 23 hours and 50 minutes that doesn't make the cut?

 

[NosiePosie]

Came here to look at the comments, not disappointed... There are some pretty bonkers / unhinged responses here

There are training courses for IDVAs and ISVAs via Safelives, some DV services might want higher quals for their posts. But ultimately, and very sadly, most DV roles are not much more than min wage and it is very common (in all supported services), and often a requirement of tender, for providers to be ex service users or have lived experience of the issues they are supporting.

It seems very odd to me that people would not welcome this service

You are a new member aren't you. Why don't you read the wiki & see why tattlers aren't keen on Ratchet getting into something like this CIC then maybe you'll have a different viewpoint.

 

[FridaK]

Was

I'm sorry to disappoint but I'm not connected. I have got form working with vulnerable people if that helps.

I just can't see what they're doing as a bad thing. I was intrigued by the pay pal thing initially but it's gone the same way as every other 'gotcha' as in it didn't get 'em.

It's getting to the point where you guys are trolling yourselves. And honestly I quite enjoy that aspect, I mean we've all got to get our kicks somehow

Yes as I said earlier we do have one or two errant users. But we are an inclusive bunch overall, on the same page so to speak. I’m glad we’ve provided some ‘kicks’ though, strange as that maybe as we are all just usernames after all.

So you find no concern in the financial impropriety? Nor some of the more questionable behaviour of Rachael, such as covertly filming her children sleeping or her husband inebriated, or indeed her stepson in a state of undress. Not do you as a person who has experience in working with vulnerable people find it concerning that she has detailed the stories of women in dire straits before and provided pictures of said women for the entertainment of others? You don’t find it at all concerning that it has been alleged that she was never in Refuge after clearly stating for a number of years that she was? Which of course if true, has enabled her to gain the unmitigated trust of thousands of women in similar positions? You did not find it at all worrying when she treated helping a homeless person as comedic anecdote? Or that when she was first asked about her ‘set up’ as a help service and what the money she collected was spent on, she panicked and proceeded to lie about being stalked to the same thousands of women who felt compelled to forward abusive messages to the women she named. Or that after that she named a number of other people including a child that also received such messages to avoid answering the questions?

None of that troubles you? You are just here for the ‘kicks’ of comments by random usernames? I find that very odd really Perhaps a little narrow minded maybe?

ETA: That course means sod all but whatever . I mean why waste £20k on Uni when you can do a three day course worth 20 hrs of CPD. Fucking baffled now

 

[FridaK]

When V pulled out, failed to get any traction on what a wrong un R is then went on to act in an abusive manner by posting a video of a child without permission. Oh yeah.. Being on it

It’s not a joke though really is it? Not something to act immaturely about at all. In fact I think you will find that as well as being unnerved by Rachael being involved with vulnerable women and children, we were also quite rightly unnerved by what happened to Rachaels daughter that weekend. So whilst I’m sure you may think you are doing her favours. You are in fact proving the point that if you are are involved in this CIC, perhaps we may have valid points. There is very little merit in coming here to discredit Vanessa. Our concerns started well before we knew of her existence and we have maintained that her actions were not what we would have encouraged.

Though I’m assuming this is a routine scenario in Rachaels relationships with people? Not entirely professional and above board, just to sling out insults and jibes to anyone that may ask if she is in fact capable in her projects. It’s reminiscent of so much we’ve seen before....

 

[tippingpoint]

It’ll be a special one from when Wilby was born, maybe the first one he had on or his going home outfit. However it won’t stop there. Oh no. It will have been given to her by a best friend that she’s known her whole life Anna who moved to Guatemala to raise her babies. Rachaele will expand on the origins of this woman revealing many personal things about her life. “...and when you got an abnormal smear back you sobbed and sobbed and I just held you because it reminded me of how people are carrying out an actual smear campaign on me and how I was in a refuge and how I get thrush”

 

[reCAPTCHA]

Can’t get over how she is ploughing on with the CIC when her own kids are basically living in the Torquay episode of The Truman Show.

Rach the young women who desperately need your help and protection are the ones living under your roof, how can you not see that and prioritise them?

Betsy recently experienced Josh and Rach having such an abusive argument that she went to stay with another family member for a few days. While there she divulged a lot more about the toxic environment in the house. She’s confused and uncertain because Rach has blurred the lines of being her Mum/Friend by sourcing weed from her mates.

Lula is still in therapy and was so distressed recently she rang home within minutes of arriving at school to ask to be collected. Rachel regularly updates on Lula’s total meltdowns, lack of self-esteem and inability to cope with daily life.

Edie seems the least traumatised to be fair, but still performs like a pro as soon as the camera swings in her direction and watches enough You Tube and Tic Tok to be living the life of an 8yr old influencer already.

Meanwhile their mother is busy apparently saving the rest of the world- one warrior at a time- thriving of the perception that she’s a ditsy, relatable hun, and spending 23 hrs of every 24 with her phone recording the ‘shitshow’.

 

[Mrs_honestyx4]

View attachment 542075She doesn’t seem the least bit concerned that he’s just gone back down to the beach at 9.30pm??? Obviously he’s not even at home. Maybe it’s just me but my kids tell me when they’re leaving the house.

I've got a 15 year old and her response broke my heart. Why isn't she comforting him? He tried to solve it by looking for it. It's gone, and he seem really worried and upset about it firstly, comfort him, there's always a solution and it's not the end of the world. Once he feels secure, talk to him about how we have to look after these things and make extra effort to ensure it doesn't get lost etc. To make him feel shit when he already feels shit... Is the worse I bet she goes around reminding people that SHE has the money and they have to bow down to her.

Honestly I'm feeling so sad for seb right now. Where is the comfort. He's actively seeking reassurance by saying 'hopefully we can sort something out'.. and she's given him none. Poor fucking lad, who has he really got to back him up? No one.

 

[Cheerios78]

I've dreaded this day. I did the freedom course in a small group a few years ago through TDAS who are also linked to sanctuary housing. So theres stuff going on behind the scenes here. Shes done her homework. It also 'justifies' the thousands of pounds of stolen money.
The ladies who ran the freedom course were highly trained professionals who had spent years in their field and knew exactly how to treat the ladies they worked with. I can only imagine the horror situation that will unfold when a group of vulnerable women go through her doors desperately needing help and support and instead getting that narcissistic little thief who will simply pick the best looking younger ones to be her future besties. Sickening

 

[AnotherMrsJones]

Some of our Tattle members have had me in tears these last couple of days, I've lead such a sheltered life so reading your stories has opened my eyes, DA comes in numerous forms, my heart goes out to each one of you who has shared your story with us, you are the heros thank you for being so brave and sharing with us, sending you all virtual ((((hugs)))) which is in all fairness probably more than you'd get from Rachet and her cronies