Preston Davey Trial

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Think such a small tiny baby and that huge big man, the body can go into shock due to suffocation or crushing the small body with a bigger body by trying to do whatever to it. Sorry that's a bit graphic
This is a good point, I expect part of it must have been a shock response. Poor poor baby
 
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I’m not an expert but I’m assuming the restriction of his airways was stopping oxygen from getting to his brain for periods of time…I think this might also be why he had his timer out but this is just me putting 2+2 so I may be wrong about that
It looks to me like Varley was quite blasé that afternoon about Preston struggling to breathe because he had always recovered before.
He took the video at 4.45pm and within three minutes was chatting to McGowan about buying a kayak 😡
I reckon that it was only when McGowan got home shortly after 6pm and he saw how bad Preston was, that it was him who insisted they must take him to hospital, and they set off about 6.20pm.
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I’m waiting to see what they are going to say about John as as of current there is not a lot . could he have been nieve to what was going on as he was working and not main care giver ? That happen with Elsie Scully hicks
 
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It looks to me like Varley was quite blasé that afternoon about Preston struggling to breathe because he had always recovered before.
He took the video at 4.45pm and within three minutes was chatting to McGowan about buying a kayak 😡
I reckon that it was only when McGowan got home shortly after 6pm and he saw how bad Preston was, that it was him who insisted they must take him to hospital, and they set off about 6.20pm.
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Yeah absolutely; this wasn’t his first time and clearly this time he went too far.
Prolonged reduction of oxygen to the brain can cause seizures, brain damage, stokes, cardiac arrests and obviously death.
Google says - The human brain can generally survive without oxygen for only 4 to 6 minutes before permanent damage begins. This is why I think he has the timer out as noted in the 15:09 update: Interactions include Snapchat, calculator, mobile timer. There are messages relating to the sale of a kayak.
I think he’s been timing the assaults to make sure he didn’t go over the “time” to cause real damage, not realising that either he did do it too long or that the accumulation of incidents have contributed Preston not recovering 😔 what a monster.
 
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My impression of McGowan-Fazakerley is that he is an absolute wet wipe who knew what was going on and did absolutely nothing about it.

I'm guessing more will come out about him though and it seems there may be some evidence he contributed to the sexual abuse?

Hope he gets convicted of something and there's no way he didn't know.
 
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My impression of McGowan-Fazakerley is that he is an absolute wet wipe who knew what was going on and did absolutely nothing about it.

I'm guessing more will come out about him though and it seems there may be some evidence he contributed to the sexual abuse?

Hope he gets convicted of something and there's no way he didn't know.
I don't think he's an angel by any means but it sounds like he's a very meek, mild -mannered man living with a narcissistic lunatic
 
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Sorry if this has already been mentioned and I’ve missed it.
in JV’s account of his day to the detective at the hospital he goes through the naps the been sick the bath. But he never thinks to mention that the poor child had a seizure (that he filmed but doesn’t remember filming) Ah but he was going to send it up a friend who also had children who had suffered from seizures. There are so many inconsistencies in his story it’s unbelievable. And the fact that he no comments when he can’t think of an excuse are ridiculous.
 
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Well there was no water in the bath when police attended the house. Apparently due to a seal which had been leaking and then glued that day.
Preston was sick multiple times and had fresh nappies on after soiling them. Will they present photos of the house showing no sick and no dirty nappies.

He qualified as a teacher in 2021. He'd been a design technician before that at the same school and did his training there presumably a SCITT arrangement. He was then head of year by the time he took paternity leave in 2023 so only qualified 2 years. Very fast to get to that level really considering he only held QTS since 2021.
Id read there was evidence water had been in the bath when the police checked after preston died
 
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I don't think he's an angel by any means but it sounds like he's a very meek, mild -mannered man living with a narcissistic lunatic
I wouldn’t assume that at all, although it might be a handy defence if he’s prepared to throw JV under the bus and get away with far lesser charges. It’s happened plenty of times before in these sorts of situations. They’ll want as much info on JV as they can possibly get, and I’m sure he has plenty. In my view he is completely complicit in the abuse, even if he didn’t participate in the final, fateful act.
 
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Is it safe to assume that previous episodes of breathing difficulty are likely to have been due to sexual abuse, and as Preston had recovered in the past, Varley assumed he was going to recover from this one? Except he went into respiratory arrest and then cardiac arrest?
Horrible as it is, I think that you are most probably right. :sick: 😡
 
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My impression of McGowan-Fazakerley is that he is an absolute wet wipe who knew what was going on and did absolutely nothing about it.

I'm guessing more will come out about him though and it seems there may be some evidence he contributed to the sexual abuse?

Hope he gets convicted of something and there's no way he didn't know.
Yeah cos in one of the interview he was asked was that your legs and he said no comment so could they have been John's legs and filmed on Jamie's phone 🤔
 
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I don’t know how much longer I can keep reading about this case 😭😭 that poor gorgeous baby boy 💔
 
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Yeah cos in one of the interview he was asked was that your legs and he said no comment so could they have been John's legs and filmed on Jamie's phone 🤔
I took the no comment as it was his legs that’s why no comment
 
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My impression of McGowan-Fazakerley is that he is an absolute wet wipe who knew what was going on and did absolutely nothing about it.

I'm guessing more will come out about him though and it seems there may be some evidence he contributed to the sexual abuse?

Hope he gets convicted of something and there's no way he didn't know.
At the very least he is complicit and has enabled abuse. To my mind that makes him an accessory to this poor little baby's brutal murder.
 
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I don’t know how much longer I can keep reading about this case 😭😭 that poor gorgeous baby boy 💔
Same. I keep thinking "that's it - I can't read any more", but then being drawn back because I want to make sure that there is enough evidence to send both of these filthy paedos down for the rest of their foul lives!
 
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You’re not being dim. I can only assume it’s because fluid got onto his lungs as he was trying to breathe during the abuse (and just typing that makes me gyp)
The fact the doctors said he bought up a milky liquid i can only assume this is semen as surely nothing would be coming up with the amount of sick that day along with bruised back of throat its absolutely disgusting to think about... I dont understand the timer though I mean if it is 4to6 minutes for oxygen to starve or whatever then surely that would be on his Google searches cos not everyone would know this. They are just sick
 
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They tested the bath and found that it didn’t leak 👏🏼 this completely ducks a significant part of his story as there should have been water still in the bath at the time the police went to the house and he’d already confirmed that he didn’t drain the tub nor did John have time.
They found super glue out downstairs so i wonder if the delay gettin to hosp was them setting the scene
 
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They found super glue out downstairs so i wonder if the delay gettin to hosp was them setting the scene
Yer but surely if they was using drowning in bath as an excuse they would fill the bath up i mean he had plenty of time over an hour to fill bath up ... it all just doesnt make sence 😭
 
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