Preston Davey Trial

[maytoseptember]

One thing that strikes me listening to the early part of The Trial podcast is that this had all the hallmarks of a quite predictable case. Man struggles to adapt to life with an adopted baby. Seems depressed. Alludes to having thoughts of harming the baby, and so on. Numerous visits to A&E with injuries that may or may not have been non-accidental. Preston’s murder could have quite easily echoed the murders of Elsie Scully-Hicks and Leiland-James Corkill were it not for the sexual abuse element.

It’s just impossible to fathom how one man’s contempt for this baby who (to his mind) destroyed his comfortable life could turn into sexual abuse. I mean it’s possible that Varley entered into the adoption process with that aim, but what if he didn’t? Did JV’s growing dislike and resentment of Preston morph into wanting to sexually abuse him, as some sort of sick and depraved punishment? I’m interested to know what the prosecution come up with, especially in terms of how JFM is implicated as well.

 

[stickytoffeepud]

I completely agree. For me it’s the SA abuse element that takes this to a whole different level. It took me a while to actually get my head around what some of the pictures and evidence etc were implying just because my brain did not want to comprehend that level of depravity.

I’m sure there will be lots more to come out but at this point I’m also feeling that social workers and the adoption agency failed in thier duty of care. There must have been signs during contact surely.

Also to become a head of year and to be in such a position of trust requires a lot of checks. So either the SA / perversions are new or JV is exceptionally good at pulling the wool over peoples eyes

 

[nothinonyou]

One thing that strikes me listening to the early part of The Trial podcast is that this had all the hallmarks of a quite predictable case. Man struggles to adapt to life with an adopted baby. Seems depressed. Alludes to having thoughts of harming the baby, and so on. Numerous visits to A&E with injuries that may or may not have been non-accidental. Preston’s murder could have quite easily echoed the murders of Elsie Scully-Hicks and Leiland-James Corkill were it not for the sexual abuse element.

It’s just impossible to fathom how one man’s contempt for this baby who (to his mind) destroyed his comfortable life could turn into sexual abuse. I mean it’s possible that Varley entered into the adoption process with that aim, but what if he didn’t? Did JV’s growing dislike and resentment of Preston morph into wanting to sexually abuse him, as some sort of sick and depraved punishment? I’m interested to know what the prosecution come up with, especially in terms of how JFM is implicated as well.

Probably because abuse comes in many forms, almost all forms are present here; sexual, physical and emotional. Nothing was off bounds to punish this baby because they disliked him.

I found it so sad in this podcast they said JV and Preston were in the bath together and Preston was happily playing in the water and JV very loudly shouted "boo!" Which scared Preston and caused him to cry. After they complained so much he never stopped crying , can't understand deliberately making him cry and filming it. So cruel

 

[SamPam]

I think they're alluding to M-F lying about the condition Preston was in when he arrived back home (telling Varley's mother that Preston was vomiting on the rug when he got back). He arrived back home and they left 7 minutes later to take him to the hospital, which took under 10 minutes to get there. The doctor yesterday testified that in his opinion Preston hadn't been breathing for longer than the 10 minutes they claimed. Seems a massive coincidence that Preston would just happen to have an accident just as he's arriving home.
Regardless, 7 minutes is a ridiculous amount of time if you're walking in to a baby struggling to breathe and you have your car keys to hand.

 

[maytoseptember]

Probably because abuse comes in many forms, almost all forms are present here; sexual, physical and emotional. Nothing was off bounds to punish this baby because they disliked him.

I understand that, and do agree that clearly nothing was off limits in terms of the horrors they/Varley inflicted on Preston. I guess what I’m saying is, there’s nothing unusual or particularly shocking about an adult being violent and cruel towards a defenceless baby. A man orally and anally raping a baby is just a in different stratosphere. Even for a child abuser, that is rare and taboo.

 

[Mycatismad]

Are there no live updates from the trial today as I’ve not seen anything since the court resumed this morning? (not sure if it’s my phone though)

 

[Nelly's mum]

Are there no live updates from the trial today as I’ve not seen anything since the court resumed this morning? (not sure if it’s my phone though)

The court reports are on Manchester Evening News, I got in through through Facebook

 

[Mycatismad]

The court reports are on Manchester Evening News, I got in through through Facebook

Thank you, I thought it seemed odd.
ETA- I was on the Lancs live page.

 

[PaddyDomino]

Are there no live updates from the trial today as I’ve not seen anything since the court resumed this morning? (not sure if it’s my phone though)

It's not letting me link but the Manchester Evening News was reporting live this morning.
They stopped at lunchtime and the Court isn't sitting this afternoon, it seems.

 

[IGiveUp22]

I understand that, and do agree that clearly nothing was off limits in terms of the horrors they/Varley inflicted on Preston. I guess what I’m saying is, there’s nothing unusual or particularly shocking about an adult being violent and cruel towards a defenceless baby. A man orally and anally raping a baby is just a in different stratosphere. Even for a child abuser, that is rare and taboo.

It does feel like a significant escalation in a short space of time doesn’t it? I can only assume that there were signs or things he’s done previously that may/may not have indicated that he had a sexual interest in children. This may come out after the trial though.
If there genuinely is nothing - no signs, no indication etc it is hard to get your head around him going to those ‘levels’. However, sexual abuse is very much centred around power, control, and punishment…the sexual gratification is often secondary bizarrely enough

 

[Mycatismad]

It's not letting me link but the Manchester Evening News was reporting live this morning.
They stopped at lunchtime and the Court isn't sitting this afternoon, it seems.

Thank you, I’ve found it

 

[PaddyDomino]

Footage and photos of Varley being hysterical at the hospital in this article:

Moment teacher accused of 'murdering baby' wailed 'it's my fault'

Jamie Varley, 37, collapsed to the floor and pleaded with hospital doctors to 'kill me' after being told 13-month-old Preston Davey was not going to survive.

www.dailymail.com

 

[Ray_of_Sunshine]

Footage and photos of Varley being hysterical at the hospital in this article:

Moment teacher accused of 'murdering baby' wailed 'it's my fault'

Jamie Varley, 37, collapsed to the floor and pleaded with hospital doctors to 'kill me' after being told 13-month-old Preston Davey was not going to survive.

www.dailymail.com

Omg he’s exactly as I pictured him. What a grotesque little man

 

[Jayneh2020]

Wow wow wow I can see now what they mean about overly dramatic... how fake can you get absolutely dirty stinking rat!!!!!! He is definitely not a full shilling

 

[maytoseptember]

God I pity those nurses having to pander to his histrionics. I wonder how many of them saw through it.

 

[PaddyDomino]

Wow wow wow I can see now what they mean about overly dramatic... how fake can you get absolutely dirty stinking rat!!!!!! He is definitely not a full shilling

He looks utterly vile, nasty, unhinged and deranged
How in the name of God was he able to hold down a teaching job and be Head of Year etc?!
And be considered suitable to be an adoptive parent?!
I know he's hysterical because Preston has died and he's bricking it but you can see that there is something really really off about him, in my opinion!

 

[Shinythings]

The thing I never understand with so many of these SA cases is why they have to hurt them too? I can get SA (well I can't but you know what I mean) because that's the attraction but I don't understand the need to hurt and scare him too? Even IF there is some possible explanation other than SA he deserves to have the book thrown at him just for being so awful to him.

 

[moldwarp]

Footage and photos of Varley being hysterical at the hospital in this article:

Moment teacher accused of 'murdering baby' wailed 'it's my fault'

Jamie Varley, 37, collapsed to the floor and pleaded with hospital doctors to 'kill me' after being told 13-month-old Preston Davey was not going to survive.

www.dailymail.com

That video gives me the ick. A grown man and accused perverted murderer collapsing and sobbing and whining high pitched like a child, Jurassic Park t shirt like a child, flapping his hands like a child, and the busy, professional nurse has to take precious time out of her job to placate him.

crying like a baby all while having allegedly done the things he’s accused of doing and still having the gall to throw this disgusting diva tantrum.

Honestly one of the most viscerally ick things I’ve seen in a while

 

[moldwarp]

The thing I never understand with so many of these SA cases is why they have to hurt them too? I can get SA (well I can't but you know what I mean) because that's the attraction but I don't understand the need to hurt and scare him too? Even IF there is some possible explanation other than SA he deserves to have the book thrown at him just for being so awful to him.

Fetish. For a lot of male sexual abusers, the fear and humiliation of the victim is a big part of the turn on. This isn’t me spitballing, it’s well researched and well documented.

This is why many sexual sadists and serial killers take time with the victim before killing them, because they love to see their fear. For example Robert Ben Rhodes who had his victims dress up in ill fitting clothes from previous victims and then took photos of them in extreme fear when they worked out what he was going to do with them. There’s a photo of his last victim online that’s honestly one of the most chilling images in existence.

This is why a lot of sex abusers often start out with indecent exposure. They get a thrill from the fear and confusion of the victim and it can escalate from there.

This known behaviour pattern is of course one of the MANY reasons why allowing men into women’s toilets and changing rooms if they claim they’re “trans women” is a really, really terrible idea.

 

[Itchy of Itchington]

It's not letting me link but the Manchester Evening News was reporting live this morning.
They stopped at lunchtime and the Court isn't sitting this afternoon, it seems.

The stories are a mess on both newspapers websites because they're both the same news group with tit content management systems! The last update is at 13.02
The lancs live is the same as the MEN reporting with a redirect on the URL. For some reason you can't link to Manchester evening news.


JVs conduct/reactions and comments all sound like something from a very crap episode of Casualty. We all react differently to shocking news but this sounds so over the top. I was reminded of Savannah Brockhill as well. Not only do they think that the more dramatic reactions shows they are really upset and shocked the child died but it also shows they have no idea about real emotions and grief. Having just watched the footage on the Mail website it's even worse seeing it. Not sure how niche the reference is but if anyone watched Summer Heights High he's behaving like the character Jamie when she wanted attention. Except that was a comedy and this is a man who killed a baby after sexually abusing him