I’m trying to keep up but finding it really hard with all the different names and the jumping around the dates
Yes that's what I meant thanksI think he was in the house at the time Preston was photographed over the cot which was what I thought this poster was referring to? Jamie took the photo and sent it to John whose phone location put him as being in the house. I may have also got this wrong but I’m sure that is what the reporting said?
On the day Preston died, John was not in the house.
On Snapchat as well which is totally bizarre.Very disturbing this morning description of Varley recording Preston dying and repeatedly going back to the video and playing it while the baby was dying and doing nothing to help
Where was this information posted as I read this morning 16:45 Jamie recorded a 35 second video the 17.03 the video auto replays , is there a more detailed reporting else where ? Im reading Manchester one ! Its made me feel ill this caseVery disturbing this morning description of Varley recording Preston dying and repeatedly going back to the video and playing it while the baby was dying and doing nothing to help
I can't help but feel it will ring similar bells as the child sex abuse rings in that nobody wanted to probe too much at the risk of being seen as homophobic rather than Islamaphobic in this caseI’m so angry that so many so called professionals came into contact with this little baby and his adoptive abusers and did absolutely fuck all but rolled over and accepted the poor little Jamie act. It’s fucking outrageous! I want to know why?
That social worker needs to be struck off. Any child that presents at a GP or hospital so many times for so many different reasons needs to be investigated immediately. A child in the care system should raise even more screaming alarm bells. In Preston’s case this happened over a 4 month period. 4 months! And nothing but pandering to Jamie. Preston should’ve been instantly removed. So many people with blood on their hands here it is truly terrible.
I just read this and felt sick I assume it is what we think ! Can anyone help with the discriptions with Jamie and John I’ve been reading today and there saying dad in red and dad in blue then they discribe as taller dad who was the taller out the two so I can work out who they are talking about ?The doctor says she sucked what looked like milky vomit from the baby’s throat, however she does not recall any water being removed. There was no fluid or vomit suctioned from his lungs, she adds.
Is this what I think it is
I just read this and felt sick I assume it is what we think ! Can anyone help with the discriptions with Jamie and John I’ve been reading today and there saying dad in red and dad in blue then they discribe as taller dad who was the taller out the two so I can work out who they are talking about ?
100 fucking percent! The fear of repercussions from being accused of being homophobic superseded this little boys right to live and to not be sexually abused and raped by two men.I can't help but feel it will ring similar bells as the child sex abuse rings in that nobody wanted to probe too much at the risk of being seen as homophobic rather than Islamaphobic in this case
The angry react wasnt for you but for the sweet little baby. Those horrible men.100 fucking percent! The fear of repercussions from being accused of being homophobic superseded this little boys right to live and to not be sexually abused and raped by two men.
you know, I’ve become quite desensitised over the past few years, but my God, this has made me feel faint. It’s just too much to comprehend, fucking sick sick perverted c*#+ts.The doctor says she sucked what looked like milky vomit from the baby’s throat, however she does not recall any water being removed. There was no fluid or vomit suctioned from his lungs, she adds.
Is this what I think it is
Abusers don't typically have an endgame as such. They deal with the here and now and by the time they are able to talk, the abusers have either managed to socially isolate their victim of have developed excuses for any statements. Victim blaming as a form of acting out due to behavioural difficulties, Oh they are a troubled child so what do you expect etc.I wonder what their endgame was? Abusing a baby? The baby would eventually be able to talk and tell those around them what they were doing. I don’t get what they thought would happen. Makes me wonder if they knew he would die and they would end up in jail.
Ian Watkins didn’t adopt to do this so wasn’t continuously doing it to the same child. But these two adopted a baby to do this to who would eventually reveal what was happening as they go older.
Ian W did deliberately seek out single mothers with very young children with the view of carrying out sustained abuse, though. And did succeed in doing this with a woman who was completely complicit in it. He and these men are of a similar vein in my opinion.I wonder what their endgame was? Abusing a baby? The baby would eventually be able to talk and tell those around them what they were doing. I don’t get what they thought would happen. Makes me wonder if they knew he would die and they would end up in jail.
Ian Watkins didn’t adopt to do this so wasn’t continuously doing it to the same child. But these two adopted a baby to do this to who would eventually reveal what was happening as they go older.
I'm worried the tube will be an excuse for bruising in the back of the throatThe doctor says she sucked what looked like milky vomit from the baby’s throat, however she does not recall any water being removed. There was no fluid or vomit suctioned from his lungs, she adds.
Is this what I think it is
Yeah that’s bizarre, the video was taken earlier and Preston was wearing a babygro. Hours later he was wearing just a nappy and Varley claiming he’d just pulled him out of water. I hope Varley takes the stand, he will be ripped to shreds, I get the impression with his personality he will.Very disturbing this morning description of Varley recording Preston dying and repeatedly going back to the video and playing it while the baby was dying and doing nothing to help
Jamie Varley is short, fat, dark haired and behaves hysterically, John Fitz is tall, slim, blonde, wears glasses and is calm in nature.I just read this and felt sick I assume it is what we think ! Can anyone help with the discriptions with Jamie and John I’ve been reading today and there saying dad in red and dad in blue then they discribe as taller dad who was the taller out the two so I can work out who they are talking about ?
Jamie is tall, dark and slim. John is tall I believe but slightly shorter. Some reports he is stocky. I think witnesses have mixed them up sometimesJamie Varley is short, fat, dark haired and behaves hysterically, John Fitz is tall, slim, blonde, wears glasses and is calm in nature.
me tooI'm worried the tube will be an excuse for bruising in the back of the throat
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