Does anyone know who Mrs Graham is? I she Jamie’s mum because she is said in the court documents today to have six children and many grandchildren, that’s why the two buffoons went to Jamie’s mum’s when they needed to call 111 and JMF said it was reassuring to have her nearby,
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Well he’s bleeping sacked now.
Exactly! It takes time for anyone to build a comfortable bond with a baby, whether it’s adoption or natural most parents are so cautious at first.
But these two were such comfortable easy going ‘dads’ they were bathing with him round the clock, letting him eat naked, taking non stop pics of his genitals, getting in the hot tub with him, talking to other people about his genitals.
All of this in 4 months. It’s not normal.
Even if the doctor flagged it, it wouldn’t necessarily guarantee his safety, especially as they both seemed to be able to give answers to the social worker as to why these hospital visits were happening. May as well blame bio dad for not wearing protection nine months before Preston was born if we’re going to blame everybody he came into contact with under JV and JMF’s ‘care’. I’m not saying there aren’t failings at all, but ultimately these two killed him. If we’re didn’t have rum like this In the world, then social workers/ doctors/ nurses etc could concentrate on people who need and want to accept help.
It’s not really the same as blaming bio dad. We are talking about a professional who didn’t do their job properly! I didn’t say it would guarantee his safety but could have put protective measures in place
it’s not nice to think about, but doctors are human and things sometimes make sense at the time. And didn’t a nurse flag it somewhere and it didn’t get followed up? Or have I been deep diving into other cases and mixing it up?
If the doctor had flagged it as NAI then this would’ve started protective action from the local authority so I agree. I don’t think a child protection medical was undertaken which would’ve meant a full body examination which may have then found other injuries. There has been a huge failing and lack of professional curiosity from everyone involved - if these were birth parents the hospital attendances would’ve raised concern re lack of supervision at a minimum.
So would the doctor be now called in to answer why this has happened? Or do these things just get left alone after someone dies? Seems the social workers seem to get the brunt of it in the media after a case like this, but if it was an obvious non-accidental injury then surely they are now going to be in trouble?
Not normal at all. Jumping at the chance to have a baby naked around the house as much as possible, cloaked in the kind of wholesome language (“exploring”, “sensory”) that we all hear when it comes to children.
I think it’s quite telling that they’ve both repeated this stuff, because it suggests (to me at least) that it was planned and rehearsed between them, giving them an air of plausible deniability (“What do you mean it’s weird, we were only concerned with Preston’s development?”) when their aims were much more nefarious.
I completely agree. It’s not just someone who accidentally missed something. A broken arm in a non mobile baby is basic child protection, this is the foundation for any safeguarding training. It’s shocking that it didn’t trigger further investigation. The fact they were adopted parents should have raised further alarm bells as it could indicate lack of experience/attachment etc. .
It's the Victoria Hospital in Blackpool isn't it? That hospital has a terrible history of failing to protect patients. A woman was sexually assaulted on a ward and bled to death from her injuries. And several other possible victims
Blackpool Victoria Hospital: Healthcare worker questioned over rapes
A man previously held on suspicion of murder and grape is questioned over further offences at a hospital.
www.bbc.co.uk
A different rapist worked there as a doctor
Rape-accused Blackpool doctor faces sanction appeal hearing
The General Medical Council is given permission to seek the striking off of Dr Aloaye Foy-Yamah.
www.bbc.co.uk
There were also staff drugging patients who they didn't want to have to deal with
Blackpool nurse and colleague jailed over drugging patients
Catherine Hudson, 54, and Charlotte Wilmot, 48, conspired to unlawfully drug a patient at a hospital.
www.bbc.co.uk
Unsurprisingly it's not considered safe by the CQC and it's overall rating is inadequate.
F**k me, take it all back- they need a serious looking at then don’t they!It's the Victoria Hospital in Blackpool isn't it? That hospital has a terrible history of failing to protect patients. A woman was sexually assaulted on a ward and bled to death from her injuries. And several other possible victims
Blackpool Victoria Hospital: Healthcare worker questioned over rapes
A man previously held on suspicion of murder and grape is questioned over further offences at a hospital.
A different rapist worked there as a doctor
Rape-accused Blackpool doctor faces sanction appeal hearing
The General Medical Council is given permission to seek the striking off of Dr Aloaye Foy-Yamah.
There were also staff drugging patients who they didn't want to have to deal with
Blackpool nurse and colleague jailed over drugging patients
Catherine Hudson, 54, and Charlotte Wilmot, 48, conspired to unlawfully drug a patient at a hospital.
Unsurprisingly it's not considered safe by the CQC and it's overall rating is inadequate.
JMF is full of it. Trying to paint himself as well meaning but a bit clueless, and blaming JV for doing things he didn’t know about. He’s already said they were educated on care experienced kids but then said he knew JV was leaving Preston to “self soothe” which is a no-no and frankly cruel to a child at risk of attachment issues. Hopefully the prosecution highlights all these types of discrepancies.
So many people are to blame here. To be quite frank, it's staggering the number of professionals involved and each let this little boy down one way or another. I don’t think it’s unreasonable to scale it right back to his mum and dad either tbh! Sounds like they had no business bringing another child into the world. Taken together, these were all contributing factors. Preston was doomed from the very beginning.
At the very best, they would come across as being those people that don’t think a baby will change their life and will just comply. Wonder if they had close friends who were just sniggering behind their backs about how hard they seemed to be finding it because they just wanted a baby to slot into their lives without any interruption.
I went back to the reporting from earlier on in the trial where they covered the arm injury and had various drs give statements etc. I hope they upload in the right order but effectively, they took JVs word for it due to how he presented at hospital that it was accidental. There was also a different account recorded by one dr which was discussed and I personally do believe, considering everything, that dr completed the details wrong.
The social worker was told and checked but appeared very ‘unofficial’ imo.
Then for the trial, they later had two independent experts who agreed it was a non-accidental injury. It’s a massive massive failure that it wasn’t considered as non-accidental at the point he attended. Bare in mind, the social worker had done a home visit TWO days before too…
The social worker was told and checked but appeared very ‘unofficial’ imo.
Then for the trial, they later had two independent experts who agreed it was a non-accidental injury. It’s a massive massive failure that it wasn’t considered as non-accidental at the point he attended. Bare in mind, the social worker had done a home visit TWO days before too…
Attachments
A serious case review would consider the actions of all professionals involved, health or social care.
My little one tries to squeeze my hand and asks if I can squeeze theirs the hardest I can- I tell them I can’t do that because I don’t want to hurt them. That’s only little fingers- how did they believe he went to lie him down and his arm just broke!!? I think I missed that bit of the reporting! I was under the impression he’d knocked the arm as he was lifted from the cot and it got caught or something- but still knew a force had been used.
I'm actually lost for words!
JMF on the stand so far is absolute bat tit!
So, you are so 'in love' with someone and far too busy to properly check the distressing videos you have been sent - due to your partner being sassy/an attention seeker, and you being busy at work.
You have attended multiple hospital visits, as ' your little one ' suddenly presents with seizures and Injuries - even though they didn't all throughout their time in foster care
Your treasured and loved son actually dies
You are questioned
You distance yourself from your partner
Then you return to a relationship with them again, live together and get a new job.
Then you are arrested, told and shown really horrific and sinister things.
You attended court and apparently see baby Preston being left in a bath for 14 min and all the other evidence ( his horrific injuries)' for the first time'.
How could you not be screaming out about how much has been kept from you? About how much baby Preston must have suffered and how manipulated and kept in the dark you have been?
How did this lying piece of
not go into histrionics on seeing and hearing what we haven't had the full,excruciating, details of ' for the first time' ?
How is he even daring to remain so calm and only show true upset for himself?
How can he still spin JM in the loving, protective father light?
They are both as bad as each other in my opinion.
I also think that JM has hinted that his mum's partner also saw Preston that day, I wouldn't be suprised if he somehow tried to appeal and blame someone else.
They are both sniveling conniving, peverted, psychopaths.
Studying for a PHD at one point in his life and he can't see where this evidence is pointing ... To me he also needs a life order. They are both insulting anyone that loved or cared for Preston, the proffesionals involved with this case and the general public.
Sorry for the rant
JMF on the stand so far is absolute bat tit!
So, you are so 'in love' with someone and far too busy to properly check the distressing videos you have been sent - due to your partner being sassy/an attention seeker, and you being busy at work.
You have attended multiple hospital visits, as ' your little one ' suddenly presents with seizures and Injuries - even though they didn't all throughout their time in foster care
Your treasured and loved son actually dies
You are questioned
You distance yourself from your partner
Then you return to a relationship with them again, live together and get a new job.
Then you are arrested, told and shown really horrific and sinister things.
You attended court and apparently see baby Preston being left in a bath for 14 min and all the other evidence ( his horrific injuries)' for the first time'.
How could you not be screaming out about how much has been kept from you? About how much baby Preston must have suffered and how manipulated and kept in the dark you have been?
How did this lying piece of
not go into histrionics on seeing and hearing what we haven't had the full,excruciating, details of ' for the first time' ?How is he even daring to remain so calm and only show true upset for himself?
How can he still spin JM in the loving, protective father light?
They are both as bad as each other in my opinion.
I also think that JM has hinted that his mum's partner also saw Preston that day, I wouldn't be suprised if he somehow tried to appeal and blame someone else.
They are both sniveling conniving, peverted, psychopaths.
Studying for a PHD at one point in his life and he can't see where this evidence is pointing ... To me he also needs a life order. They are both insulting anyone that loved or cared for Preston, the proffesionals involved with this case and the general public.
Sorry for the rant
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I just don’t buy the answer that he hadn’t seen it before in its entirety - he would have seen it in disclosure.