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Re testing -
The background risk of a baby with Down’s syndrome at 37 is 1/250, at 40 it’s 1/100, 42 1/70 and so on. So without any tests at all that would be your rate.
The test then takes into account other factors to give your overall score.
A 20 year old woman would have a background chance of 1/1500. So, and to simplify, a 20yro who’s given 1/350 after the test would have shown more markers (but still low) from the actual test than a 42 year old with a chance of 1/350 by the time it’s adjusted for the background risk.
I hope that makes sense.
I also think it sounds less concerning when you look at it as a % rather than an ‘out of’ figure. 1/20 would be 5%, 1/350 just 0.0028.

@Elisha97 I found a lot of the numbness was gone by the time I had a second baby but I felt them move months earlier and felt no different overall to the first time. My second scar runs from the same start point as the first overlapping for about 1cm and finishes about 6mm above it at the other end. The nerves affected/numbness is a bit different but it didn’t seem as though the first scar affected anything in pregnancy or recovery for the second.
This is interesting. I wonder when this data was collected. Given women are having families later it’ll be interesting to see how/if data changes. also interesting is the females age factor - would it always be the egg or does sperm have any sway on genetic outcomes. Ie if you’re a fine ass cougar so your eggs are “old” but your partner is 5/6/7+ years younger. I do find genes in general fascinating.
 
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This is interesting. I wonder when this data was collected. Given women are having families later it’ll be interesting to see how/if data changes. also interesting is the females age factor - would it always be the egg or does sperm have any sway on genetic outcomes. Ie if you’re a fine ass cougar so your eggs are “old” but your partner is 5/6/7+ years younger. I do find genes in general fascinating.
I understand that yes, it could have an impact of better quality if partner is younger. Idk if there is model that include this factor, at least I was not questioned about it.
 
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that’s really interesting- thank you!

i know, my anxious brain comes up with all sorts of weird thoughts 😂 did your c section/ scarring affect this pregnancy at all?
The only thing is that it limits your choices slightly for delivery. So personally I don’t want an induction so I’ve got a scheduled section booked for my due date, but if I go into labour before that, I’m going to try for a VBAC. I wanted to do that on our MLU but after a consultation decided against it because of the risk of scar rupture. They would have let me, but it’s against guidelines and they kind of said if anything goes wrong we can’t guarantee we’ll be able to intervene in time and you have to accept responsibility for it, and I thought the risk was too great for me personally.
 
Re testing -
The background risk of a baby with Down’s syndrome at 37 is 1/250, at 40 it’s 1/100, 42 1/70 and so on. So without any tests at all that would be your rate.
The test then takes into account other factors to give your overall score.
A 20 year old woman would have a background chance of 1/1500. So, and to simplify, a 20yro who’s given 1/350 after the test would have shown more markers (but still low) from the actual test than a 42 year old with a chance of 1/350 by the time it’s adjusted for the background risk.
I hope that makes sense.
I also think it sounds less concerning when you look at it as a % rather than an ‘out of’ figure. 1/20 would be 5%, 1/350 just 0.0028.

@Elisha97 I found a lot of the numbness was gone by the time I had a second baby but I felt them move months earlier and felt no different overall to the first time. My second scar runs from the same start point as the first overlapping for about 1cm and finishes about 6mm above it at the other end. The nerves affected/numbness is a bit different but it didn’t seem as though the first scar affected anything in pregnancy or recovery for the second.
That’s super interesting and helpful, thank you. I am also fascinated by genetics and dominant and recessive genes and all sorts.
 
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I understand that yes, it could have an impact of better quality if partner is younger. Idk if there is model that include this factor, at least I was not questioned about it.
It’s interesting. We had an assessment at a private IVF clinic (fell pregnant naturally before needing to go ahead with treatment), I had bloods and a scan done and MrDragName had semen analysis. We also had to fill in serious questionnaires about a billion things. MrDragName is 3 years older than me and he was told his sperm was excellent. Plentiful amount, great motility etc. I was told my eggs were probably a bit knackered and whilst I had high AMH which suggested excellent ovarian reserve, because I have PCOS it was hypothesised that several of them could be useless. I was told natural conception, of assistance by way of drugs to force ovulation etc, were not likely/not worth trying.

I’ve painted the consultant we spoke to in a bad light here, he was actually great, one of the far superior medical professionals I’ve spoken to and I’m paraphrasing but it’s kind of another example of where a)women’s health is still a massive mystery compared to men’s health and b) women will usually get the ‘blame’ over men (unless a semen analysis can ‘prove’ otherwise). I probably need to get off my feminist high horse a bit!
 
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The only thing is that it limits your choices slightly for delivery. So personally I don’t want an induction so I’ve got a scheduled section booked for my due date, but if I go into labour before that, I’m going to try for a VBAC. I wanted to do that on our MLU but after a consultation decided against it because of the risk of scar rupture. They would have let me, but it’s against guidelines and they kind of said if anything goes wrong we can’t guarantee we’ll be able to intervene in time and you have to accept responsibility for it, and I thought the risk was too great for me personally.
that’s interesting to hear! I ended up having an emergency c section (sounds dramatic but it wasn’t, it was just decided it was safest that way) and I think I will probably opt for another again
 
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My 16 week appointment wasn’t too bad. Got the whooping cough vaccine, had blood taken to check my iron levels because I have fatigue, breathlessness and heart palpitations as some sort of pregnancy holy trinity. They were absolutely perfect at 8 weeks but the midwife thought it was worth checking. The obstetrician has a ‘plan’ to manage my pregnancy being high risk (which is only because I’m large and old and it’s my first pregnancy combined) but it all sounded ok and I kind of appreciate the extra monitoring. And I’ve been referred to physio therapy for my mad bladder problems and they’ve accepted the referral and I’ve already had a text to call for an appointment. Impressive! (Until I find out I can’t be seen till 6 years after the baby is born but it’s the thought that counts!) the conversation was less speedy and intense too. All in all, a much more positive and experience than I have had.
 
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Has anyone got a low level placenta? I have been to the hospital twice this week with heavy bleeding (I have been bleeding on and off for 6 days daily but got a lot worse this morning). They think I could have a low level placenta but this needs to be checked at the 20 week scan which is next week. The Dr requested the scan be done today as I’m 19 + 6 but no availability. I’ve been told to take it easy until the scan and stop taking the aspirin I was told to take.
 
Has anyone got a low level placenta? I have been to the hospital twice this week with heavy bleeding (I have been bleeding on and off for 6 days daily but got a lot worse this morning). They think I could have a low level placenta but this needs to be checked at the 20 week scan which is next week. The Dr requested the scan be done today as I’m 19 + 6 but no availability. I’ve been told to take it easy until the scan and stop taking the aspirin I was told to take.
I had a low lying placenta, ended up having to stay in hospital for bleeding around 20 weeks. They wouldn’t let me go home til I had 24 hours without bleeding - is this not the case in all hospitals?

sometimes the placenta will move up as everything grows. for me it did shift a little but close to delivery I was still borderline so ended up booking a csection

Then I had bleeding again just after 35 weeks so had to stay in again and they then decided to move the section forward to 36+1

I was never really told to take it easy, just told no sex from when we found out it was low lying at 16 weeks.
 
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It’s interesting. We had an assessment at a private IVF clinic (fell pregnant naturally before needing to go ahead with treatment), I had bloods and a scan done and MrDragName had semen analysis. We also had to fill in serious questionnaires about a billion things. MrDragName is 3 years older than me and he was told his sperm was excellent. Plentiful amount, great motility etc. I was told my eggs were probably a bit knackered and whilst I had high AMH which suggested excellent ovarian reserve, because I have PCOS it was hypothesised that several of them could be useless. I was told natural conception, of assistance by way of drugs to force ovulation etc, were not likely/not worth trying.

I’ve painted the consultant we spoke to in a bad light here, he was actually great, one of the far superior medical professionals I’ve spoken to and I’m paraphrasing but it’s kind of another example of where a)women’s health is still a massive mystery compared to men’s health and b) women will usually get the ‘blame’ over men (unless a semen analysis can ‘prove’ otherwise). I probably need to get off my feminist high horse a bit!
Went through that as well. It was "inconclusive". My comments were around the doppler ultrasound to evaluate placenta flow (don't know the exact term in english), along side of imaging, they use model to calculate risks over age, blood pressure, etc etc. There were ZERO questions about the father.
 
Has anyone got a low level placenta? I have been to the hospital twice this week with heavy bleeding (I have been bleeding on and off for 6 days daily but got a lot worse this morning). They think I could have a low level placenta but this needs to be checked at the 20 week scan which is next week. The Dr requested the scan be done today as I’m 19 + 6 but no availability. I’ve been told to take it easy until the scan and stop taking the aspirin I was told to take.
Mine was low but it’s now moved to high so hopefully yours will have time to move. I wasn’t told to avoid anything though x
 
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I had a low lying placenta, ended up having to stay in hospital for bleeding around 20 weeks. They wouldn’t let me go home til I had 24 hours without bleeding - is this not the case in all hospitals?

sometimes the placenta will move up as everything grows. for me it did shift a little but close to delivery I was still borderline so ended up booking a csection

Then I had bleeding again just after 35 weeks so had to stay in again and they then decided to move the section forward to 36+1

I was never really told to take it easy, just told no sex from when we found out it was low lying at 16 weeks.
I was also told no sex and they did ask for me to stay in for 24 hours observation but I declined. I said I would contact them if the bleeding turned into other symptoms. Right now it’s more spotting again. Thanks for the info. I suppose I need to wait until Thursday to find out at the scan. He was quite clear about no heavy lifting and said not to do any heavy housework and mentioned no hoovering.
 
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31 weeks pregnant tomorrow, tried dancing with my toddler today and felt like my bladder was going to fall out so I think I’ll sit the next dance out 😂😂

I had awful sciatica/PGP or potentially both last week, I was crying and really low.. it really feels like it will last forever when you’re in the depths of it. It’s feeling so much better now if a little stiff. Things that helped me were lying on my side with a pillow between my knees, keeping knees together when I get up from a chair or out of a car, a couple of pregnancy yoga moves to help stretch the nerve out, a belt, heat pads and paracetamol! It was an exhausting week, I’m amazed it’s actually feeling better!
 
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Granted I've never been pregnant before so this might stupid but I kind of hadn't appreciated how cumbersome a tummy is. It just feels like a constant firm blown up beach ball stuck there. I guess I was expecting it to have more give?
 
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Hi folks 👋

Careering onto the thread with no notice to say hello, I had a positive test yesterday morning. Because we'd sort of been informally TTC, I cannot remember what weekend my last period started, I know it was a Saturday but my mind is blank. I think I'm 5 weeks.

Whilst finding out just before a Bank Hol and some annual leave booked after is probably good, it might also be not ideal because my autistic anxious brain has been climbing the walls since yesterday, Googling every random thing I can think of

(Is my particular SNRI anti depressant ok?
Can I eat a high protein diet? How much protein is too much protein? Can I paint my nails? Can I dye my hair? Can I weed the garden? How much decaf coffee is too much decaf coffee? And so on)

Also today I just keep bursting into tears. Like a Dad carrying his toddler in B&Q, started crying. Looked at my cat and started sobbing about how cute he is.

Probably not helped by the fact this morning I blitzed through Allen Carr's Easyway for vaping book and threw all my vape stuff away including walking to the nearest battery disposal point shop to get rid of the battery segments. I'd cut down nicotine strength to the weakest since the New Year anyway and then went 0% yesterday as soon as I found out, but just decided to rip the bandaid off today and stop feeling rotten for it
 
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(Is my particular SNRI anti depressant ok?
Can I eat a high protein diet? How much protein is too much protein? Can I paint my nails? Can I dye my hair? Can I weed the garden? How much decaf coffee is too much decaf coffee? And so on)
I've been exactly like this because granted, is my first pregnancy, those are all normal questions! My conclusion as for now is that most things are ok and a lot of common sense comes at place, if something has too many chemicals or a strong smell (nail polish), better to avoid so. Food wise I've been eating an extremely high protein diet and my bloods returned OUTSTANDING, perfect results, they will test you soon so hope is same for you! X
 
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Hi folks 👋

Careering onto the thread with no notice to say hello, I had a positive test yesterday morning. Because we'd sort of been informally TTC, I cannot remember what weekend my last period started, I know it was a Saturday but my mind is blank. I think I'm 5 weeks.

Whilst finding out just before a Bank Hol and some annual leave booked after is probably good, it might also be not ideal because my autistic anxious brain has been climbing the walls since yesterday, Googling every random thing I can think of

(Is my particular SNRI anti depressant ok?
Can I eat a high protein diet? How much protein is too much protein? Can I paint my nails? Can I dye my hair? Can I weed the garden? How much decaf coffee is too much decaf coffee? And so on)

Also today I just keep bursting into tears. Like a Dad carrying his toddler in B&Q, started crying. Looked at my cat and started sobbing about how cute he is.

Probably not helped by the fact this morning I blitzed through Allen Carr's Easyway for vaping book and threw all my vape stuff away including walking to the nearest battery disposal point shop to get rid of the battery segments. I'd cut down nicotine strength to the weakest since the New Year anyway and then went 0% yesterday as soon as I found out, but just decided to rip the bandaid off today and stop feeling rotten for it
Congratulations! Don’t stop the SNRI till you’ve been able to speak to the GP/Psychiatrist/other depending on who administers the meds. If it was to be stopped (no idea on that) it should definitely be tapered down for your safety. Sorry, you’re obviously not stupid and know these things better than me but just in case you’ve gone off in an anxiety spiral or something. Protein is ok, you might find your tastes change but it’s still early. Rare/medium steak is supposed to be a no but it’s a subject of much debate! I think nail polishes are fine haha?! I’m not a very groomed gal. Decaf coffee is good. It’s caffeinated coffee that you’re supposed to moderate. I didn’t even drink that much coffee latterly because of my crippling anxiety but oh, how I miss an additional caffeinated cup! Hair dye is one of those ‘not sure’ things. Little and often, non-permanent possibly ‘safer’, keep off the roots if you can. Probably won’t result in a kid with 3 eyes though. Google is a friend and a foe I think, to the pregnant lady!

well done on the vaping. I moved straight to 0% nicotine after my positive and I’m basically off it entirely now at 17 1/2 weeks. I miss it but the 0% doesn’t taste like my v low dose nicotine one did. It helped my nausea for a bit then caused my nausea for a bit and now I’m sad because I miss the activity but I’ve long since stopped missing the nicotine.
 
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Hi folks 👋

Careering onto the thread with no notice to say hello, I had a positive test yesterday morning. Because we'd sort of been informally TTC, I cannot remember what weekend my last period started, I know it was a Saturday but my mind is blank. I think I'm 5 weeks.

Whilst finding out just before a Bank Hol and some annual leave booked after is probably good, it might also be not ideal because my autistic anxious brain has been climbing the walls since yesterday, Googling every random thing I can think of

(Is my particular SNRI anti depressant ok?
Can I eat a high protein diet? How much protein is too much protein? Can I paint my nails? Can I dye my hair? Can I weed the garden? How much decaf coffee is too much decaf coffee? And so on)

Also today I just keep bursting into tears. Like a Dad carrying his toddler in B&Q, started crying. Looked at my cat and started sobbing about how cute he is.

Probably not helped by the fact this morning I blitzed through Allen Carr's Easyway for vaping book and threw all my vape stuff away including walking to the nearest battery disposal point shop to get rid of the battery segments. I'd cut down nicotine strength to the weakest since the New Year anyway and then went 0% yesterday as soon as I found out, but just decided to rip the bandaid off today and stop feeling rotten for it
Congratulations! Honestly I think I've googled a lot but yeah it can be helpful but can also be overwhelming, this is also my first pregnancy and I am an extremely anxious person!
I have learnt a lot from other posters on this thread though and had some great advice!
Personally I've not changed the dosage of my antidepressants but I had a call with a GP when I first found out (around 4 weeks) to discuss through medication I was on. Some things I did have to stop but with the anti depressants this was ok to continue, each midwife appointment I've had they've checked in with me on this also. So would defo recommend to check in with your GP/whoever prescribes yours too see what is best for you.
 
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thanks both, I've managed to get a telephone GP appointment next week (my midwife service said on the self referral landing page to book a GP appointment if you had any ongoing medication shi-, so, tis what I did). NHS website said the particular tablet I'm on is fine, I just then ventured into American medical and Canadian medical territory, and then I stopped myself.

(For the vaping hand to mouth thing, it feels VERY silly and is quite humbling to me showing how much of an unconscious fidget it was, but I ordered these breathing necklacey things and having a Trebor extra strong mint while breathing through it is taking the edge off a lot. Plus I am genuinely surprised at how helpful the Allen Carr book was)

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