Pete Doherty

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They only claim they want redemption as in their ducked up narcissistic little minds, it'll cancel out all the nasty tit that they did.
That's bang on. It's only when it suits them, they think they can say a few platitudes and then just move on happily. Some even take to showing 'concern' for their victims and trying to 'help' them, like when Russell Brand paid for the rehab for Andrew Sachs granddaughter. Now she's almost got Stockholm syndrome defending him...
I don't think anything Pete will say will make up for what I imagine he's done to a lot of people. (not necessarily intentionally, but his selfish ways and all the young groupies etc, I can't see how a lot of bad stuff wouldn't have gone down), and obviously he's never going to say any more about Blanco. Other than to defend himself.
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Am going to see the documentary tmrw. Wives are not neutral observers so it'll be interesting to see if she does a hagiography or something more honest and nuanced.
Did you see it? I'm sure we'd all like to hear your views : ) I'm boycotting the Louis thing as well I think...haha.
 
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Tbh the Louis Theroux thing made me feel sad. There was a part where young man was like ‘what do you want’ and Pete was like ‘I’m not doing the hard stuff no more’ my god I bet that’s all he gets when he’s back here no wonder he’s living in a secluded place. I’d like to think he will remain clean but idk after watching that. Hopefully their new baby girl will be a brand new awakening for him.
 
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He has obviously swapped one addiction for another which is common when overcoming any sort of addiction. He is so worryingly unhealthy looking. Makes me want to get a grip of my weight even more watching him.
 
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Yeah he doesn’t look healthy at all and obviously he’s replaced heroin and crack with booze. It’s amazing that he is actually clean of those my god who would have thought it?!
 
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I really enjoyed it, he looks calmer and more at peace.. the drug era must have been so chaotic .. and look how easily it’s offered up to him! Eveyone having a great time and partying ..

He must fight the addiction all the time Z

good luck to himX and his family .
 
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With it only being 45mins and a lot of padding I get the feeling Pete didn't give Louis much to work with.
 
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I agree with most people on here about the Louis Doc, just watched it (despite saying I wouldn't lol). It was a bit pointless in many ways. He obviously wasn't giving much away. Drunk as a fecker though, drinking calvados or whatever at breakfast time.

I got the impression he wasn't really that hands on with the baby despite the way he showed her, very sweet looking kid. I also did not appreciate seeing Pete semi nude, his body is utterly gross. He did mention his health issues, the main one must be his liver, but he skirted around admitting he had liver disease as it would mean he looks like an idiot for drinking. (He would have been advised to drink nothing whatsoever by the liver specialist.)

One thing that struck me was when they 'doorstepped' Carl in his hotel he (Carl) was clearly out of his mind on it. Eyes like saucers and talking a mile a second. It seemed a bit disrespectful, both to Pete for Carl being on it, and the film crew for bursting in on Carl like that. It felt weird either way...
Pete also mumbled something like "when he was pushed over.." when talking about Blanco, but it cuts away and he slightly changes the subject. Listen carefully to the bit about Mark Blanco and you can hear him saying that and calling him an hole. He looks well shifty when he talks on that whole saga and Louis does not really press him at all.

So overall Louis has lost it as a decent interviewer, he also lacks understanding on addiction considering he had so many subjects who had all sorts of addiction problems with his older shows. Pete looks happy enough, and I'm really pleased he does seem clean, ish...(I don't think he's back on an eight a day of smack that's for sure)...God willing. But if he keeps drinking like that he won't live to see his daughter start her first day of high school. Losing your dad at a young age is awful and he really needs to knock the booze on the head.
 
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Ohhh, so he’s bloated like that from alcohol? Now it all makes sense. The insinuation that he was clean and living a wholesome life in France gorging on cheese got on my nerves.
 
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Ohhh, so he’s bloated like that from alcohol? Now it all makes sense. The insinuation that he was clean and living a wholesome life in France gorging on cheese got on my nerves.
Yes. The articles made it seem like he was large and happy. Not just a drunk now. That’s more in keeping with what we know about him, anyway. It makes sense.
 
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His other 2 kids didn’t inspire him to get clean so I doubt the 3rd will.
Who the duck would have a kid with that mess? Poor little girl.
 
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His other 2 kids didn’t inspire him to get clean so I doubt the 3rd will.
Who the duck would have a kid with that mess? Poor little girl.

Yep. I get that he is talented to a degree, but it boils my piss when people eulogise him and say he's changed. He's gone from Grade A smackhead to Grade A alcoholic. He has a LOT of dodgy stuff in his past that seems to have been swept under the carpet and has gotten away scot free - others like Winehouse, Geldof et al were not so lucky.
 
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What was the deal with him half keeling over after swigging rum on the Louis doc? Louis kept suggesting that it had "gone down the wrong way" but it felt like something else was going on.
 
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What was the deal with him half keeling over after swigging rum on the Louis doc? Louis kept suggesting that it had "gone down the wrong way" but it felt like something else was going on.
He's not well at all. He needs to stop drinking, he is seeing a liver specialist...but ignoring their advice.
 
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He’s a mess but he’s got so much charisma……glad he’s cleaned up a bit……
 
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What was the deal with him half keeling over after swigging rum on the Louis doc? Louis kept suggesting that it had "gone down the wrong way" but it felt like something else was going on.
It looked like acid reflux from the alcohol.
 
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It looked like acid reflux from the alcohol.
Yeah. It messes up your stomach really badly if you are a long term hard drinker. Your body starts literally trying to expel the booze by giving acid reflux/ vomiting to stop it going into the liver, which no longer works properly. It's really serious stuff.
I'm ashamed to say I suffer from Alcoholic liver disease. (first diagnosed aged 26). You really can't drink. ( I try really hard not to and usually manage, but occasionally I will have a glass of wine, and never ever spirits, even then I feel really guilty). If you don't drink then it won't get worse, but you can't undo the damage already done after a certain point. Apparently 90% of people who drink 3 drinks per day over a period of time will get ALD. It just does not really have symptoms in the early stages...But Pete is having big time symptoms. Booze is so bleeping dangerous.
 
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Seeing as it sounds like a few of us moved in the same circles back in the day... did Wolfman creep anyone else out?
 
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One thing that struck me was when they 'doorstepped' Carl in his hotel he (Carl) was clearly out of his mind on it. Eyes like saucers and talking a mile a second. It seemed a bit disrespectful, both to Pete for Carl being on it, and the film crew for bursting in on Carl like that. It felt weird either way...
Carl was certainly on the marching powder in that clip.
 
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