One Direction #7 Spaces between them

[Tofino]

Re share of the band. Just my basic understanding so I’m happy to be corrected!

Royalties will continue to be paid on any copyrighted music / physical goods they are entitled to even after death (to the estate) and Zayn would have continued receiving even after he left the band.

This kind of gives an overview -

But actual gigs, if there were any, I doubt there would be much money for Liam (or when Zayn left the band). Possibly some royalties for specific songs but I’m not sure how far royalties extend to live performances.

I think all contracts would be set up for that tour/gig only eg on condition of actually performing at the gig. It certainly won’t be the case they say ‘we will pay 1D £2million to perform this tour’ and then it gets split equally no matter who is there.

 

[StephenTJackson]

I had a thought earlier watching some old (new)videos
Of Harry, Niall and Louis covering 1D songs at their own concerts. I wonder if they would ever do that again I can imagine it being quite hard for them to even listen anymore let along stand on stage and sing.

I imagine songs like Night Changes or History will never be the same again to them.

 

[GingerSquid]

It's not about being able to pay for the damage though, it's the blatant lack of respect for other people. Cleaners and other staff at the hotel (who are most likely earning minimum wage and working to a tight schedule in an already stressful and thankless job) then have their day at work made even more difficult by having to deal with the mess left by a selfish individual.

In terms of not having teenage freedom, even teenagers know it's piss poor, disrespectful behaviour to damage property.

I find Louis very confusing … he comes across both simultaneously lovely and awful! He has a lovely way with fans and seems really humble, but then he does the silly swagger with middle fingers and stuff like this … really inconsiderate and mindless behaviour. Ummm… I think he’s likely abusing a few substances.

 

[calmyourritas]

I’m so sad seeing those pics Louis looks broken

 

[duskwithoutdawn]

Interesting that they own the name but Zayns older sister was threatened with legal action when she was selling unofficial 1D merch back in the day

We don't know when they bought the rights to the name to be fair. They might not have owned it at the start.

Interesting that if one of them doesn't want to tour then it could block the rest of them from doing a reunion tour with the 1d name. I bet that causes some fights behind the scenes since Louis and Liam clearly want a reunion to happen.

 

[Maddow]

Louis comes across as a bit of an ass. I don't think he has malicious intent though. I believe he has the same problem as Liam, just expresses it differently. I think he is floundering adult-wise. He fears aging and growing up. He misses his 'Golden years'. The drinking, the fun, all the women that wanted him. I don't think he realizes that it's not going to be seen as cute or endearing anymore the way it was as a teenager. A lot of the same things he talks about now, he also did in 1D. Like stealing, breaking stuff, pranking people. When you are a teen people think it's cheeky or you're a bit of a trouble maker but now as an adult and father, it's just cringe. He has the vibes of someone that thinks tipping over a port-a-potty when somebody is in it is peak humor.

 

[Rosa34]

I think the reason why Harry is so much more appealing to the general public is because he’s different. Whether the image he has now is for his career or whether it’s actually him is another question. To be fair I think Louis and Niall are quite happy now, Liam on the other hand I don’t think will ever be happy.

 

[Amyx1518]

Am I missing something? He posted a picture of him on stage, not of him doing anything that was even slightly related to the way he died?

I get it, but I don't agree with the criticism of the photo either.

 

[SaLou]

The fact he hasn't sued means it's true also. If I were him, I'd retire somewhere out of public eye. It's changed my whole opinion of him.

I don't really think he'd have a leg to stand on if he sued. The book doesn't name him as far as I'm aware? It's fiction inspired by true events. Clever way of exposing him without getting sued.

 

[Bettyboo2475]

I think he'll try and pivot to doing shows like Strictly or I'm A Celeb soon as part of an image rehab. He followed Louis around on his tour when Maya's book was published to overshadow headlines about it so there's a strategy behind him. I think he craves fame and attention too much to give it up completely even though he shouldn't have a career. Realistically I doubt a label will fund another album release for him so the only opportunities he has are releasing singles to diminishing returns, or wait for a 1d reunion, which doesn't seem like it'll happen. Maya said he was jealous of Harry and I don't see that changing much.

Harry always seemed a bit off towards Liam in 1D. He definitely wasn't happy and he did distance himself. It's a shame as he has got a decent voice but just no personality

 

[Rosa34]

That poor girl, the nervous laugh at the end, my heart is breaking for her.

 

[Maddow]

Nah I think he's just not dedicated and does not need the money. Years of not having a set schedule for anything is also probably not helping. Zayn is a pretty well-documented diva. Read about the stuff with his manager and label. He also straight-up ran away during an interview that was supposed to be one of those long-form ones and walked out during another one. His team probably begged him to show but that wouldn't matter to Zayn because it doesn't affect him any.

 

[Mugglewump]

I love that album and Louis.
Saw him this year at Victorious Festival and he was amazing
Zayn next week, excited, but apprehensive that he's not ready.

 

[MrsLisboa]

No there’s no defending this, how come none of the others have turned out like this. Liam is an absolute dickhead and that’s nobody’s but his own fault. I remember him saying something that he wish he seen the boys more. Well I wonder why they don’t want to talk to you Liam? How his so called “fans” are defending this is indefensible because we all know if it was the other way around (as it should be) they would be out in their droves saying that it was awful.

Honestly after that Logan Paul interview I thought he was a dick. He was probably provocted and taken advantage for the clicks but it was not nice. You see all the other boys always talking with a lot of respect about the band and what they went through even if it wasn’t always nice. He seems very resentful. Also I find it so weird he went from relationship with someone much older to o a 17 year old. I wonder if he is spends a lot of time with his son

 

[Yeshunyou]

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How strange!!

Just comparing Harry at Niall's show at coop in Manchester, it's just worlds apart

 

[gabbysolis]

How does Liam Payne sit with himself he is the singular most embarrassing pathetic loser I’ve ever come across. He’s the type of person who can empty an entire room.

 

[GingerSquid]

I've really gone off him over the past couple of years, how can he be a role model to all these young girls when he's like this. Back in the 1D days he was so completely different. Surely it must be the "Larry" effect.

I can’t tell how much of it is even real?!! I find it fascinating; he’s completely unrecognisable from early 1D days. In interviews he comes across surprisingly smart, introspective and sort of bashful at times. It’s like he’s living behind a weird facade. I’m not even sure he’s as laddy and messy as he makes out! Time will tell for him and Liam 100%! Zayn seems to have cleaned up a bit. Niall is more level headed. Very interested to see Harry’s next move also! He looks and feels so different with his new hair and he has also aged a fair bit; looking a bit old now to appeal to 14 year old girls?!

 

[Bettyboo2475]

He's a fantastic songwriter and so supportive of the new bands, agree something is missing. I agree his persona doesn't match what seems quite a sensitive soul.

 

[funkimunki1984]

Im so sorry to hear your nephew has had such a difficult time and I hope he is well at the moment .When I had pnd and also was pregnant with my 3rd child I had a similar-ish experience .I went to my hospital and told them I was going to take my own life ,the maternity department and my consultant ,several midwives etc were already well aware of my state of mind but there was 0 practical help offered.People would listen to me talk but ultimately I'd be given no practical advice or support.
They only actually do something when its too late imo.

He’s on the right medication at the moment and is luckily do well. And I’m so grateful for his friend finding him. As much as the NHS does some good, I couldn’t be more angry with them for sending him home. For not getting in touch with the right people and listening and sectioning him. He did need help. He was hearing voices telling him to kill himself and all these awful things to himself. Things he would never do. He told them and it still wasn’t enough.
I’m so sorry that you and your baby’s life was put in danger by them not taking your word as gospel and just basically saying “it’ll pass.” I know the NHS is stretched and we have all these numbers and quotas to reach, but surely it would be better to have a person helped as a quota than them be as a death? I totally agree that they only care when it’s too late or it’s gotten too hard for the person to be helped.
I hope you’re feeling well now x

 

[Amyx1518]

Liam was never very stable or that nice a person. He went into the X Factor a second time clearly expecting and entitled to be the frontman in the band (whether Simon actually promised him that like Liam claims is sort of a moot point because he can’t control what the public response is to the band) and he had to reposition himself in the hierarchy once it was apparent Harry was the most popular. He took on the mantle of being the responsible one but spiralled when he wasn’t getting the validation he wanted and made that everyone else’s problem. It’s an unpopular opinion here and in some of the 1d men’s fandoms but in my opinion it’s fairly obvious they gave Louis and Liam the narrative of writing some of 1d’s music to give them something to differentiate them and to try and mature the band’s image. I had a lot of sympathy for Liam for a while because it’s not enjoyable watching someone abuse substances and go off the deep end, but he’s an unlikable homophobic and sexist arsehole who abuses women. There’s no coming back from that.

Louis is and was a very good songwriter though, it wasn’t a “narrative” for him at least. I get what you’re saying though.