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Are you actually curious, or have you already made up your mind?
Nope, genuinely curious. If you'd have read my posts earlier in this thread you'd see that I can actually understand why people might get on side with the immigration side of things, even if I don't agree, but this part I can't square.
 

bubbadabut

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No, but UKIP MEPs had some of the worst attendance records at Brussels and Strasbourg. Nigel was ranked 748 out of 751 MEPs for attendance.

I know he's now an MP and not MEP but he has set a certain...precedent for himself.
Not to defend him, because why would I, but that was UKIP's entire M.O. from the start. They didn't believe in taking part in EU legislature as their whole ethos was for Britain to play no part or engage in discussions. No reason for him not to be involved now though.
 

soph30

VIP Member
Oh look, there he is, lending his support to hunting. What a 'hunt' indeed.

So I’m against fox hunting, but it’s not cut and dry monstrous. It helps control the fox population ( foxes in the wild weak enough to be caught and chased often meet horrible ends anyway such as being slowly eaten alive by other animals over a matter of days instead of being chased and killed in a matter of minutes) and creates local jobs rurally.

Not the biggest fan though
 
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I've given you multiple example with direct quotes ffs 🤣

I enjoyed Munya Chawawa's Farage sketch at the start of the week. This also had some examples.
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And if you think motorway driving in this country isn't plagued by obscene traffic every day of the week, I have to conclude you live on the Isle of Wight.
You said it had gotten worse. I wasn't debating that traffic is bad, but that it hasn't spiralled with the volume of Hull migrants cutting down the M1 in their Corsas.
 
A quick google of FOI's submitted to various Police forces requesting ethnicity stats of arrests under the Vagrancy Act (across the UK) suggests that your city might be an anomaly.
 

sue22

Member
Sorry..not so sure about him. One trial when he kept giving up so quickly. I wonder how much there is behind his ‘chat’. Talk is cheap…
 

soph30

VIP Member
Someone has written an interesting article about him saying that they don’t believe he is a racist, but that he appeals to racists.
I would argue that if you appeal to racists, consort with racists and firm political parties that are full of racists, you have probably got some racist tendencies going on.
He occasionally lets his mask slip and his true feelings spill out, but most of the time he couches his racist tendencies by saying he is concerned about society being divided. No problem with the country being divided by Brexit eh Nigey? But people of different religions or colours…hmmm….not so much. He is worried about black people marching because the racists might attack them? 🤔
He is on record as saying that Enoch Powell, in his infamous racist speech was right.
He is on record as saying that he would feel “uncomfortable” if a family of Romanians moved in next door to him.
If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck and walks like a duck…
Support the bloke if you must, but let’s not pretend that he isn’t a nasty, dangerous, divisive racist.
Just as Johnson hides his true narcissistic self behind the bumbling, badly coiffured, chaotic, benign intellectual persona, Farage hides his true self behind the banter loving, beer swilling, tweed wearing, cricket loving, cheeky chap down the pub persona.
He connects to the knuckle dragging mob because he appeals to their base instincts. That is because he has the same base instincts. It is exactly the same with his hero Trump, and Trumps supporters.
I agree with a lot of this actually. But it doesn’t mean EVERYONE who likes him is bad or racist. He does speak about a lot of pertinent issues. Most of his supporters even roll their eyes at some of the most outrageous stuff.
 
You’re right about the non clinical roles - I couldn’t agree more.

But I wouldn’t call 1.2M immigrants this year ‘small’ in any context.
Net migration was about 672k, so just under 1% of the population. The non-clinical roles stuff needs addressing, there's absolutely no need for it.