I'd argue selling your country down the river for personal gain, pretty much knowing it would make the rest of the population poorer is monsterous.Nigel's flaw really is that he's power and money hungry and does stupid, greedy things. He's not perfect by any means. But he's not a monster.
He is a disgusting, grasping racist cunt though.UKIP doesn't even exist any more afaik as its only aim was Brexit. It's now Reform UK. So it's just calling Brexit far right
Nigel's flaw really is that he's power and money hungry and does stupid, greedy things. He's not perfect by any means. But he's not a monster.
Being somewhat flippant and diminishing the discrimination that Irish people have faced in the UK is never a good look. Anti-Irish propaganda in England goes back many centuries, usually centred around how supposedly thick they are, even though the likes of James Joyce, Yeats and Oscar Wilde et al proved somewhat otherwise, mastering a language that wasn't their mother tongue.First point fair enoughThird point nah white Irish aren’t a separate race from white British. Kind of off topic tho
Robust discussion doesn't mean calling people bellends, you know.Too much hyperbole again and not enough robust discussion. Pumpkin would be sad
I'm sure Coutts said they removed his account as his political values didn't align with theirs. If they did nowt wrong, why did Alison Rose resign....Too much hyperbole again and not enough robust discussion. Pumpkin would be sad
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There's actually some topical news about fluffy if anyone's bored of discussing Brexit and racism- Coutts have said they didn't remove him for political reasons
It's not that hard to understand is it? Because she disclosed info about his account to the BBC!I'm sure Coutts said they removed his account as his political values didn't align with theirs. If they did nowt wrong, why did Alison Rose resign....
Well they can give their opinion just like anyone else but a lot of decent points are submerged underneath over the top statements and insults which his fans never stoop to reallyI love how patronising some people on this thread become when they hate Nige and want everyone else to! Haha
Oh dear - the irony.Well they can give their opinion just like anyone else but a lot of decent points are submerged underneath over the top statements and insults which his fans never stoop to really
People are free to like who they want. But many do seem to be taken in by posh voiced "blokes" who rant about the establishment when they are very much products of the establishment. Add to that his rampant xenophobia and it's hard to see how he's likeable.I love how patronising some people on this thread become when they hate Nige and want everyone else to! Haha
The basic principle of the speech is just about uncontrolled immigration and defending your country and culture ://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rivers_of_Blood_speech which is why he was careful to say he backs the BASIC PRINCIPLE and nothing that leans towards actual racism.Oh dear - the irony.
It's odd to continually defend someone who has said that Enoch Powell is their political hero and backs the "basic principle" of their rivers of blood speech, has commented that they wouldn't like to live next to a house of Romanians, has said that parts of the UK are like a foreign land and feels uncomfortable hearing people speaking in foreign languages whilst on a train in south London.
Yeah but that’s British people in need, with societal problems, not as a matter of course. You say it yourself, you work in housing for desperate people (which is laudable, well done, and your contributions are great)! It’s pretty rare for a group of ten English men to be in a house privately renting unless they’re at the bottom of society and will cause problems. Landlords exploit migrants.Erm, there are quite often large groups of White English men in HMO's, hostels, temporary accommodation. It isn't housing exclusively reserved for Romanian men. I've worked in housing and I've worked in the community with (mainly male) ex-offenders, I've seen it with my own eyes.
But why would a house full of Romanian men be any more problematic than a house full of male students or British men renting (which, to be honest some tower blocks can essentially be as they're small single bedroomed flats)?Yeah but that’s British people in need, with societal problems, not as a matter of course. You say it yourself, you work in housing for desperate people (which is laudable, well done, and your contributions are great)! It’s pretty rare for a group of ten English men to be in a house privately renting unless they’re at the bottom of society and will cause problems. Landlords exploit migrants.
Council run tower blocks have notorious social issues and they’re not just full of young men. A block of fifteen young men with the income or social issues to be housed in a tower block WOULD be a nightmare. And Romanians are of course migrants, which brings up other issues. Poor English, precarious income. It just doesn’t make a great social experienceBut why would a house full of Romanian men be any more problematic than a house full of male students or British men renting (which, to be honest some tower blocks can essentially be as they're small single bedroomed flats)?
This country's culture is from other countries. There is hardly anything that is intrinsically "British". Enoch Powell was racist as hell, and anyone who endorses him in any shape or form is morally reprehensible.The basic principle of the speech is just about uncontrolled immigration and defending your country and culture ://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rivers_of_Blood_speech which is why he was careful to say he backs the BASIC PRINCIPLE and nothing that leans towards actual racism.
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The Romanians comment was about a group of blokes whatever their culture which just doesn’t happen with English blokes, but it does with migrant housing as this YouTube comment explains
And the other languages comment was saying about NO English being heard which is pretty shocking tbh, not about other languages being spokenso that’s just not accurate
I don’t agree with BLM and nor do a lot of people I know, including some black people. Sad times that you can be accused of being racist because you don’t agree with aggressive, threatening, intimidating twats. BBC manipulated the photos a lot, I remember one in particular that shocked me was a black fella looking like a hero in a photo but the uncropped photo showed him brandishing a knife/machete. It was then that I realised I’d been a fool.The BLM movement is controversial. It's not just about being anti racist, it's got political undertones. Describing those who defend it as 'anti racist' is topical. I don't really want to go into the history of slavery here as it's a bit off topic, but that poster held below is quite negative and aggressive. It doesn't look like a peaceful anti racist protest, it looks pretty inflammatory. He's not criticising anti racism, he's criticising BLM.
''But Mr Farage , former leader of the Brexit Party, described the scenes as “terrifying,” likening protesters to a “paramilitary-like force.”
“This is what the BLM movement wanted from the start and it will divide our society like never before,” he said on social media. ''
That's not really a 'slur'. He's not commenting on a group of black people walking peacefully and saying they're terrifying, he's commenting on scenes like the one below.
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