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InTheDollsHouse

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I haven’t read what has been posted over the last 4 pages while it was on, and I’m obviously speculating here, but specific vulnerabilities making it a high risk missing person case immediately to me say one thing 💔


If anyone reading here needs it, there is help out there. I know that sometimes it doesn’t feel like it, though. I know sometimes it’s just too much and you don’t feel worthy. You are.

1. You can access emergency support via GP, 111 or A&E
2. Call the Samaritans on 116 123
3. Text "SHOUT" to 85258 to contact the Shout Crisis Text Line
4. Use the Staying Safe Website https://stayingsafe.net
5. Call SANEline on 0300 304 7000
6. Papyrus HOPELINEUK. If you're under 35 and struggling with suicidal feelings, or concerned about a young person who might be struggling, you can call Papyrus HOPELINEUK on 0800 068 4141 (weekdays 10am-10pm, weekends 2pm-10pm and bank holidays 2pm-10pm), email [email protected] or text 07786 209 697.
 
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katyhorne

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I had twins at 38, they were born in Feb 2020 then we literally went straight into lockdown. Massive surge of hormones, lockdown and then peri menopause left me suicidal. I have days where I would sit and google when the express train times and planned my suicide. I even bought a dog lead and tried to hang myself from the bedpost. Then my partner cheated on me because he couldn’t cope with “how miserable” I was all the time and it tipped me over the edge. I took a massive overdose and someone was watching over me because I vomited it all back up. My partner (now ex) taunted me saying I was that useless I couldn’t even kill myself properly. In that moment something shifted and I realised how much I needed help and I reached out and got it. I went on medication and had therapy and it honestly saved my life. My babies are my life and nothing now would ever take me away from them but in those dark days, I genuinely wanted to end it all 💔
 
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Rolandtherat

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Have just thought - if we’re looking at a suicide or planned disappearance she could have taken the girls to school and taken the dog for a walk as a way to say goodbye - I could see someone haven’t by a lovely last walk with their much loved dog before they disappeared or ended their life.
My auntie made her husbands lunch for work, got the kids sorted for school seen them all off then tidied all her house had a bath got into her pjs then hung herself so it's possible 💕
 
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InTheDollsHouse

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Please read the recap if you are not up to date
Updates added 14th Feb

Please don't be offended if you ask a question that's answered here and you're directed back to the recap rather than given a full answer.

Timeline:

0826 Nicola left home with her children and dog
0840 Nicola dropped her children at school and spoke briefly to another parent
0843 Nicola was seen walking along the path by the river towards the bench into the lower field
0847 (approx) Nicola was seen in the lower field by another dog walker. The dogs interacted and this dog walker knows Nicola
0853 Nicola sent an email to her boss
0859 Nicola sent a message to a friend
0901 Nicola joined a zoom team meeting - her phone was muted and her camera was off meaning her colleagues did not see or hear anything
0910 Nicola was seen in the upper field by another dog walker
0920 Nicola's phone was back in the area of the bench - this is confirmed by the Police through phone data
0930 the Zoom call ended but Nicola remained logged in
0933 Nicola's phone, along with Willow, the harness and lead were found at the bench area. Update: the phone was on the ground in front of the bench; the harness was on the ground further down the bank towards the river (harness detail confirmed by Paul during Channel 5 Interview, Phone source also confirming two people simultaneously found the items and dog)
1050 Willow and the phone were still at the bench area. Paul was alerted and called the Police

The phone was still connected to Nicola's zoom call which had ended at 0930.
Willow (Nicola's dog) was loose in this area.
It has not been shared whether Nicola was using wired or wireless headphones, usually had hew phone on loudspeaker, or would have had her phone to her ear, but no headphones have been reported as found.

This video shows the small distance between gate, bench and river:

Doorbell footage has been shared of Nicola leaving home the morning she went missing to show the clothing she wore:
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There have been many discussions of whether this is actually Nicola, as some think it looks like her friend Emma. The fact remains that Nicola took her girls to school, and that cannot be disputed. Another parent spoke to her at school, and one of the sightings on the walk was someone who knew her personally.

There is some confusion over who loaded Willow into the car. During the Channel 5 interview Paul stated that if he was doing the school run and dog walk Nicola would load the girls and dog into the car, and vice versa, but that day Nicola was more organised and ready earlier than usual and she had them in the car already, even though she was the one taking them to school. He did not know why this was, just that Nicola was ready earlier than usual.

Nicola parked at school, dropped her daughters off, and started the walk from there as usual.

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The fact that Willow's harness was off is normal - it was usually removed at the gate by the bench at the start of the walk, and put back on on the way back to the car.

Willow was dry when found, meaning that she had not at any point that morning been in the water. This has been discussed at great length over the threads so please search for it if you would like to understand more, or read this post for the quick version.
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The lady who found them is believed to be the owner of Wyreside Farm Caravan Park which is very close to the bench and area that Nicola is thought to have entered to the river. This is not the same caravan site as the broken or non-functioning CCTV.
We now understand that the 'man in his 70's with the fluffy white dog' entered the bench area straight after the lady, and confirmed that the phone was on the ground approximately 2ft from the bench.

The lady secured Willow - apparently with string (we do not know why, when the harness and lead were there) - and left as she had an appointment. She recognised the dog but couldn't remember who the owner was, so called her daughter in law.
At 1050 the daughter in law attended the bench area and identified both Willow and the Lock Screen photo on the phone as Nicola's. She called Nicola's daughters' school, who in turn called Nicola's partner, Paul.
There is much speculation but no facts for the gap in time here.
Paul left home by car, calling the Police on the way to report Nicola as missing.
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Exits from the walking route are not all covered by CCTV
Rowanwater Mobile Home Park (YELLOW) camera was not working
Garstang Road exit (PURPLE) is not covered by camera
CCTV does cover the riverside path (ORANGE) and the school (GREEN) Police are working to contact all drivers to obtain dashcam footage where possible on the Garstang Road but there were around 700 drivers to contact. Nicola's friends held an appeal for dash cam footage here on Friday 10/2.

Caravan Parks & Campsites
There has been confusion over the caravan parks:
Wyreside (PURPLE) is a campsite near to the bench. The owner is alleged to have found Willow and the phone. This was searched on the day Nicola went missing.
Rowanwater (YELLOW) is a mobile home park next to the top field (3). The top field is where Nicola was last seen.

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Search Efforts
A multi-agency search was conducted the day Nicola went missing including 25 members of Bowland Pennine Mountain Rescue who contributed to the search over an 8 hour period (Source)
Lancs Police have been using the caravan park as their base. All empty caravans have been searched, as have local empty properties along and near to the riverbank.
Nicola’s family are keeping all possibilities open in the hope of Nicola’s safe return, which is absolutely understandable.
SGI headed by Peter Faulding assisted the search efforts at the request of the family. Unfortunately, they found no trace of Nicola in the area they searched.
On Thursday 9/2 the Police river search extended to Morecambe Bay.
On Monday 13/2 Peter Faulding announced that he is returning to the area to conduct a ground search for possible burial sites. He now believes that Nicola did not enter the river.
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Nicola's partner Paul
Paul has never been named as a suspect. This has always been called a missing person investigation by the Police so there are no suspects.
Paul is the father of Nicola's daughters. The fact her refers to 'the girls' or 'her girls' is irrelevant.
Paul has a mark on his face near his left eye which some think is a bruise; some think is from recent botox. It is visible on old photos seen by more than one person who have looked at Nicola's Facebook posts, so it is not a bruise or botox. It's likely to be pigmentation or a birthmark.
There is some confusion over whether Paul changed his clothes after receiving the call about Willow and the phone being found but before leaving to look for Nicola. During the C5 interview, Paul actually said that he changed his clothes before he received the phone call from his daughters' school.

Nicola’s partner's businesses are a frequent question: has a business which is shown on Companies House as ‘compulsory strike off’ just after Nicola’s disappearance. This does not in any way suggest financial difficulties. It purely means the company was already in the process of being closed.
He is director of another company which is still trading, and he works in a skilled industry.
It is explained here

There is another previous company which has an address similar to Rowanwater Mobile Home Park. It is not linked to the mobile home park in any way. It is Paul and Nicola's previous house.

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Other / Misc
The area that Nicola walked in has frequently been referred to as a park, and many posters think there will be much local CCTV and Ring doorbell coverage. It is not a park. Nicola's walk was over fields, in the countryside, by a village. The only CCTV is on businesses that happen to be there. There is no doorbell footage because there are no houses.

Lancs Police gave an update via press conference on Tuesday 7/2 confirming that they are still focussing huge resource on the search effort and asking the general public to avoid doing anything to make this any more difficult. Transcript here

The police have continuously stated that the most likely situation is that Nicola has sadly somehow entered the water, but they remain open to all possibilities and fully investigate all information they receive. There have been 40 detectives working on the case.

Although the water was only around 2.5-3.5ft deep where Nicola is thought to have fallen in, the bank is high and steep. The police diver had to be helped out.


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Cold water shock can mean that you are incapacitated quickly and silently. Info here

It's also possible that Nicola was unconscious before she entered the water, for example following a medical episode, or that she slipped and hit her head on rocks under the water.

This post gives more information about why a body may not be found in a river.

A GoFundMe page was set up on Monday 6/2 by family friend Emma with a target of £100,000. This was quickly changed after social media unrest to £50,000, then £5,000. Shortly after, the page was closed before it raised even £500, and the friend posted on Facebook to state that the family didn’t initially know she was doing it, and she was just trying to help.

Emma White, Nicola's friend, has media links. Her Father in Law is Stewart White who was a journalist / presenter on BBC Look East. She knows Dan Walker who was, until recently, a BBC breakfast presenter before moving to Channel 5.
Peter Faulding is friends with Alan Carr (chatty man), and it was Mark Williams-Thomas who asked him to approach Nicola's family to aid the search (credit to @da1sycha1n for this info)
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There have been mixed messages about a possible mental health element on previous threads.
Any speculation here about Nicola's mental health should come from a place of concern, not judgement.

Anyone who has struggled, or is struggling, with mental illness knows that at times it is more powerful than anything else and takes over all rational thought. If that has played a part in Nicola going missing (which - to be clear - her family or Police have not suggested) it does not mean that she doesn't love her family, especially her children, more than anything in the world.


Please be mindful of Nicola’s family with any comments made ❤
 
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DellaC

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I'm having a little cry for all those women who think there's no alternative.

I was one of those once.

Thankfully I'm here to see the other side of the fence.

God help her family ❤❤

Big hugs ladies and gents, please always try to reach out x
 
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thegreencow

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Press Conference notes for anyone who’s catching up and didn’t watch

- Press conference to help stop speculation and tell us what the police have done.
- Hundreds of hours of CCTV and dash cam footage watched. Searches done too.
- No evidence of third party or criminal involvement In Nicola’s disappearance but officers who investigate serious crimes are leading the investigation.
- 300 premises visited. Almost 300 people spoken to. Received 1500 pieces of information.
- Underwater drones, horses and helicopter used in search. They continue to search in the sea and work with experts in their field inc. environmental and tidal experts. Search of area around where she disappeared.
- Investigation ongoing. Reviewing information from Nicola’s family and digital devices. Working with National Crime Agency.
- Nicola was immediately graded high risk after police got information about vulnerabilities from the family. This is normal in a missing person investigation with the information they’re in possession of.
- Evidence reviewed on Monday 30th January. Police came up with hypotheses; she went into the river, third party involvement or she left the area voluntarily. Hypotheses have remained in place and been reviewed regularly. Working hypothesis was that Nicola went in the river. This has been misconstrued in the press to be factual. Police have always been open minded.
- Fitbit unfortunately holds no further information as it hadn’t been synced for a number of days.
- Further work being done on social media accounts. Nicola might be shown as being online today but it’s just the police doing enquiries. No one needs to be concerned or contact incident room.
- Some information only known to Investigation team. No third party involvement. Information coming in on daily basis.
- The police want to find out what happened for the children.
- Abandoned house opposite bench has been searched three times and Nicola is not there.
- Red van is false rumours. Was reported to have been in area on 27th. Enquiries continue. Not believed to be suspicious.
- Fishermen not seen to be suspicious by police. One male seen covering face. Local angling clubs contacted. No fishermen seen on cctv.
- Glove discovered by TikTok is NOT Nicola’s.
- Speculation and rumours affecting family. Regularly updated. Family Liaison Officers speak to them daily and spent significant time with Paul yesterday.
- Won’t specify on ‘vulnerabilities’ to respect family. Speculation damaging. Police are being as transparent as possible. IMO them not specifying will cause more speculation and do more harm than good.
- Hope to find Nicola alive but won’t say how confident they are. Likelihood is she’s in the river but can’t be 100% confident.
- Nicola was NOT wearing a headset or AirPods.
- No cctv between school and iron bridge.
- Underwater searches continue. River tidal. Some areas searched repeatedly because of this.
- Social media detectives have been a hindrance to the investigation. Some things that have been said have been shocking and hurtful. Distracted from investigation significantly.
- Questions from media about bench and by it wasn’t forensically searched. Police skirt around this question and basically avoided it. Investigation treated as high risk missing person immediately. Area around bench and land searched.
- Police unable to speak to dog, who is wrongly referred to as ‘he’. SHE was unable to get under the gate but didn’t.
- Reporter received three text messages in five minutes about ‘vulnerabilities’. Police still refuse to elaborate due to privacy of family. It will probably all come out eventually anyway.


(Reiterated) Timeline - 27th January
• 8:26 - left house
• 8:40 - Kids dropped off at school. Nicola chatted to people in playground.
• Walked up Garstand Rd and over bridge. Witnesses and phone data confirm this.
• Nicola entered field and emailed boss and texted friend about play date for the children.
• 9:01 - Logged into Teams call and listened on loudspeaker. Normal call. Work related. Camera and Microphone always off as it’s an informative session. Didn’t need to sign in but did because of her business. No one else on Teams call heard anything.
• Dog walkers have come forward. There has been no miscommunication about who was in the field.
• Substantial amount of CCTV reviewed. Police pinned down timeline of events.
• 9:10 - Nicola seen in upper field with Willow, who was off the harness and lead. This is, again, normal. Harness always taken off in field and put back on when leaving. Last sighting.
• Digital data confirms handset moved towards the bench. No specifics on time of this happening. Normal for Nicola to hold phone in front of her on loudspeaker. Witnessed confirmed that’s what she was doing.
• 9:33 - Dog walker comes across bench and finds Willow untied and running between phone and bench. Phone facing upwards on the bench and still logged into Teams call. Harness halfway between bench and riverside. Witness returns home and makes a number of calls. Doesn’t know who the dog belongs to. Phones vet, who can’t help. Makes number of other enquiries. Eventually people return to the bench, find the handset and discover it belongs to Nicola.
• Alarm raised with school. School inform Paul, who goes to the scene. Police called.
• Able to narrow down witness and Nicola’s movement. Can’t complete this. Rowanwater cctv covers gate that enters field and front of site. This cctv is working. Site managers co-operating at every field. Nicola has not entered that area or left it. No one has entered Rowanswater.
• Allotment Lane rural but numerous cctv on road. Nicola has not been down that road.
• Main entrance and exit to the field is the river path (path and kissing gate next to the bench). Can fork off to go past Grapes Pub. Cctv checked and Nicola has not done this.
• River path always been focus. Had to appeal for dashcam footage. All will be reviewed and this is being actively worked on. No dashcam has shown Nicola .
• Yesterday (14th Feb) it was confirmed that if Nicola had left the river path and turned right she had not reached the pub. Cctv covers both sides of pavement.

Sidenote - Badass Detective Superintendent Becky will take shit from nobody.
 
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Be More Pacific

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I've just started watching the press conference and already this feels like a massive FUCK OFF from the police and you know what? Good for them!
 
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Be More Pacific

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Wow! I've never seen a press conference quite like that.

Yes, Becky is pissed off and yes, she could have tried to hide it better, but, being a hard faced, gobby, Northern woman myself, I can assure you it is HARD 😂

But she's absolutely right to be. Let the police do their fucking jobs! Sounds like the investigation is very thorough to me.

And TikTok needs to be banned!
 
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Curly

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I think the female officer has came across really well.
She has been factual and spoke really well. They have every right to be pissed off at having to spend valuable time holding a conference just because armchair detectives think they can do better job.
So many comments been shared about how she has come across, however I bet if this was a male then he’d be commended for holding court!
 
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olivia321

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I hope Nicola doesn’t get painted as some menopausal drunk now

She was a mother and a vulnerable woman
 
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Jwren

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She looks like a right hard faced cow! The way she’s speaking is not coming across well at all..
She’s doing her job! I disagree it‘s how a professional should behave. Would you say the same if it were a man in her position?
 
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Rolandtherat

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Really shows no matter what people put on social media of their beautiful and perfect lives there can be more going on behind the scenes💔 hope no one here ever feel guilty if their homes aren't magazine perfect or their kids have been little terrors that you want to rip the hair from ur head 💓 wish you all well and please reach out if you are struggling ❤
 
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Elbow80

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This update is so sad and is like a punch to my gut. I’ve been in an awful place with alcohol before which led to an attempt and hospitalisation. I’m so thankful that somehow I managed to turn it around in June 2020. I do hope that this leads people to question the stigma surrounding alcohol issues. Nicola certainly didn’t look like some peoples perception of someone with alcohol issues but I fear it’s way more prevalent than most would think.
 
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DellaC

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I'm personally grateful that they've shared this. I'm a little younger than Nicola and am struggling with the Menopause, yes at my age. (NOT A DIG) but some previous threads show just why there absolutely needs to be more awareness of this and why we shouldn't be afraid to discuss it and get help. The feelings can be horrific.

So if Nicola Bulley goes down as the Mum who just couldn’t cope with the menopause her legacy might be that more understanding, awareness and support becomes available. I, for one would take that help.
 
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Honeystar

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I think it says a hell of a lot about Paul and her family that this hasn’t even been alluded to until now. Even when they have been scrutinised and suspected they never once gave up this personal info about what she was going through. Even through all this they have had her back and kept her dignity. My heart just breaks for them.
 
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