Neil Gaiman

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I haven't heard any rumours about David Tennant, but he is one of those people who roars at others to #BEKIND! if they disagree even slightly with his super-progressive ally stances, and that kind of sanctimony is usually a mask of some sort.
 
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Have you seen his denial? Not sure if I can link it https://journal.neilgaiman.com/2025/01/breaking-silence.html?m=1

You'd think this great man of literature would do better than such a series of cliches

... I haven't responded yet because I'm so respectful... I'm so sad this happened... What happened didn't happen like these misguided women think.. If it did happen I didn't mean it... I was emotionally unavailable (implying the women wanted a relationship)... I'm learning and growing... Some things happened and some didn't (I won't tell you what I am denying, as there is evidence but I'll muddy the waters)

He is an OLD p and abuser

Apparently more investigations in the pipeline.
That whole statement is 🤢, but this paragraph is especially poor:

I was emotionally unavailable while being sexually available, self-focused and not as thoughtful as I could or should have been. I was obviously careless with people's hearts and feelings, and that's something that I really, deeply regret. It was selfish of me. I was caught up in my own story and I ignored other people's.
 
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I feel like he was arrogant enough to expect to get away with it after the podcast came out last year. He has such an avid (rabid possibly at times?) fan base I think he assumed they would take his side, similarly to what happened with the Johnny/Amber court case
My husband, who is (now was) a massive fan, couldn't believe it when I first told him, and wondered if it was a consensual BDSM relationship that ended bitterly or maybe it was Amanda trying to smear his name. He's definitely changed his mind now and sees it for what it is, which is abuse, but his initial reaction was disbelief because this was someone he admired. Unfortunately I think this is why Neil has been able to get away with this behaviour for so long. People don't want to believe their heroes are actually horrible people

I also was a fan (though not as much as hubbie) but I never fell for his 'I'm a feminist' routine. In my experience, with men who say that it's usually a ploy to get women to sleep with them. They don't anything constructive to further women's rights like taking a pay cut so they are all equal pay with you.

They are also the same men who say 'Sex work is work' and porn is empowering to women 🙄
 
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I feel like he was arrogant enough to expect to get away with it after the podcast came out last year. He has such an avid (rabid possibly at times?) fan base I think he assumed they would take his side, similarly to what happened with the Johnny/Amber court case
My husband, who is (now was) a massive fan, couldn't believe it when I first told him, and wondered if it was a consensual BDSM relationship that ended bitterly or maybe it was Amanda trying to smear his name. He's definitely changed his mind now and sees it for what it is, which is abuse, but his initial reaction was disbelief because this was someone he admired. Unfortunately I think this is why Neil has been able to get away with this behaviour for so long. People don't want to believe their heroes are actually horrible people

I also was a fan (though not as much as hubbie) but I never fell for his 'I'm a feminist' routine. In my experience, with men who say that it's usually a ploy to get women to sleep with them. They don't anything constructive to further women's rights like taking a pay cut so they are all equal pay with you.

They are also the same men who say 'Sex work is work' and porn is empowering to women 🙄
One of his stories deals with this exact situation. A male writer brags about being a feminist while at the same time enslaving and repeatedly raping a goddess (the muse Calliope) to magically gain inspiration and talent. It's chilling considering what has now resurfaced.
 
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I can’t stand David T. He’s put information out about the gender identity of his child when the child was primary school age, so at the very least I think he’s a prat who is willing to sacrifice his child’s privacy for clout.
 
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I feel like he was arrogant enough to expect to get away with it after the podcast came out last year. He has such an avid (rabid possibly at times?) fan base I think he assumed they would take his side, similarly to what happened with the Johnny/Amber court case
My husband, who is (now was) a massive fan, couldn't believe it when I first told him, and wondered if it was a consensual BDSM relationship that ended bitterly or maybe it was Amanda trying to smear his name. He's definitely changed his mind now and sees it for what it is, which is abuse, but his initial reaction was disbelief because this was someone he admired. Unfortunately I think this is why Neil has been able to get away with this behaviour for so long. People don't want to believe their heroes are actually horrible people

I also was a fan (though not as much as hubbie) but I never fell for his 'I'm a feminist' routine. In my experience, with men who say that it's usually a ploy to get women to sleep with them. They don't anything constructive to further women's rights like taking a pay cut so they are all equal pay with you.

They are also the same men who say 'Sex work is work' and porn is empowering to women 🙄
See also: men who call women TERFs and who are vehement trans activists
 
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Tbf I’m not surprised, some of the tit he writes is dark as duck.

I told my husband today and he went “oh ffs, I’ll just stop reading then.” TBH he’s got dyslexia so he’s only really read some of the smaller novels like the graveyard book (which was actually good and I wanted to be made into a film), stardust and Coraline. He’s read what he’s don’t and said he’s a sick duck and binned his books. Said he should be in prison or in Bilquis’ fan from American gods (I don’t know if anyone saw the show but he deserves to be made to suffer like those poor women have.)
 
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Are there rumours about him?
Not as far as I'm aware, he just gives (and has always given) me the same fake-unassuming good-guy vibes as Gaiman. I don't imagine he's a sexual predator, but I think we'll eventually hear about some behaviour he would rather was kept quiet.
 
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I don't think it will. OJ was a rare case in that he was considered innocent by a ton of people. Neil isn't. Neil is dead to rights. Plus in a perverted way, what he did some think is worse than what OJ did.
Oh mark my words when I say that people will still stick up for Gaiman.
You’ve only got to look at how many people crucified Amber Heard cause they have a parasocial relationship with pirate man.
This will be the same.
 
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I would add to caution around men who are 'outspoken feminists', the ones who talk about going to therapy. You can see how he weaponises therapeutic language in his statement. 'Breaking the silence' is SUCH a goading, dishonest, weaponises bit of bull

In my experience many abusive men seek out therapist to endorse their behaviour (hard for them as many only hear their side), to pretend to be changing ('doing the work') and augment a nice guy imagine. I feel so frustrated when women say they want a man who goes to therapy like it is an insurance policy against being a b.
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Oh mark my words when I say that people will still stick up for Gaiman.
You’ve only got to look at how many people crucified Amber Heard cause they have a parasocial relationship with pirate man.
This will be the same.
There is plenty of that on twitter, although the platform is so rotten some is definitely engagement farming
 
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I would add to caution around men who are 'outspoken feminists', the ones who talk about going to therapy. You can see how he weaponises therapeutic language in his statement. 'Breaking the silence' is SUCH a goading, dishonest, weaponises bit of bull

In my experience many abusive men seek out therapist to endorse their behaviour (hard for them as many only hear their side), to pretend to be changing ('doing the work') and augment a nice guy imagine. I feel so frustrated when women say they want a man who goes to therapy like it is an insurance policy against being a b.
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There is plenty of that on twitter, although the platform is so rotten some is definitely engagement farming
Seriously, therapy might be great for victims, but it is Gaslighting 101 for abusers. Every psychological insight can be weaponised if put in the wrong hands.
 
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More sharing of the New York Magazine article and Gaiman's response, this time on Huff Post. There's nothing new added, but it's more eyes on the story.

Huff Post article

Reading Neil's non-apology apology again, these words stand out to me--

"I don’t accept there was any abuse...I have never engaged in non-consensual sexual activity with anyone.”

He didn't see any abuse or non-consent because he didn't want to see it. Both Neil and Amanda have used their power, privilege, and money to get what they want. They have been careless and thoughtless with other people. The imbalance of power and status between Neil and his victims alone is enough to question whether anyone was in a position to actually give consent.
 
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Reading Neil's non-apology apology again, these words stand out to me--

"I don’t accept there was any abuse...I have never engaged in non-consensual sexual activity with anyone.”

He didn't see any abuse or non-consent because he didn't want to see it. Both Neil and Amanda have used their power, privilege, and money to get what they want. They have been careless and thoughtless with other people. The imbalance of power and status between Neil and his victims alone is enough to question whether anyone was in a position to actually give consent.
Exactly this; perfectly put. His statement (won't call it an apology) makes me sick as he is so arrogant and lacking in empathy to believe that someone of his magnetism (as he perceived it) could ever have coerced someone into consent. Does he not understand grooming? Of course he does, he's just incapable of seeing it in his own behaviour
 
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Does he not understand grooming? Of course he does, he's just incapable of seeing it in his own behaviour
I think more than that - he does and he enjoys it. Rapists know they are raping. The grape and the emotional suffering/distress of his victim afterwards are both things he enjoys and thrived on. Look at Andrew Tate. He coaches thousands of men how to groom and abuse women. It is not an accident.

Abuse feels so unbelievable to emotionally normal people we can get reeled in to the idea that abusers are unaware / uneducated. This means victims often give their abusers the benefit of the doubt or deny what has happened or believe some justification.

He knows. He doesn’t care. He will always do it when he thinks he can get away with it.
 
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