Neil Gaiman

[tuberculosis]

Any guy who is "Outspoken" about feminism is a wrongun. Neil is no exception.

Waiting for David Tennant's downfall now.

 

[Lizzie Mintdrop]

A "friend" of mine is huge fan of Gaiman's, she was a huge fan of Marilyn Manson and Johnny Depp too so I think she's quite a good barometer for nasty fucks. I'll have to ask her what she thinks of David Tennant...

 

[Flibbertigibbet]

Yes, @lilykestrel that poor child needs help. What a misfortune to be born to such twisted parents. Neither of them should have custody of him - Amanda is complicit and her childcare arrangements are exploitative at best, and do not have her son's interests in mind.

 

[SusieTCones]

More sharing of the New York Magazine article and Gaiman's response, this time on Huff Post. There's nothing new added, but it's more eyes on the story.

Huff Post article

Reading Neil's non-apology apology again, these words stand out to me--

"I don’t accept there was any abuse...I have never engaged in non-consensual sexual activity with anyone.”

He didn't see any abuse or non-consent because he didn't want to see it. Both Neil and Amanda have used their power, privilege, and money to get what they want. They have been careless and thoughtless with other people. The imbalance of power and status between Neil and his victims alone is enough to question whether anyone was in a position to actually give consent.

 

[Prissypaws]

I’d already stopped being an Amanda fan a few years ago after I realised how insufferable she was, but Jesus Christ, wtf…and Neil Gaiman the parts with his son right there, absolutely disgusting. I’m a bit in shock about this I think.

 

[Flibbertigibbet]

I would add to caution around men who are 'outspoken feminists', the ones who talk about going to therapy. You can see how he weaponises therapeutic language in his statement. 'Breaking the silence' is SUCH a goading, dishonest, weaponises bit of bullshit

In my experience many abusive men seek out therapist to endorse their behaviour (hard for them as many only hear their side), to pretend to be changing ('doing the work') and augment a nice guy imagine. I feel so frustrated when women say they want a man who goes to therapy like it is an insurance policy against being a bastard.
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There is plenty of that on twitter, although the platform is so rotten some is definitely engagement farming

Seriously, therapy might be great for victims, but it is Gaslighting 101 for abusers. Every psychological insight can be weaponised if put in the wrong hands.

 

[lilykestrel]

Terry Pratchett Estate have issued a statement saying NG has been cut out of the Good Omens graphic novel proceeds

Good Omens shares graphic novel update ahead of season 3

The Terry Pratchett Estate has issued a statement.

www.radiotimes.com

 

[smartalec]

Have you seen his denial? Not sure if I can link it https://journal.neilgaiman.com/2025/01/breaking-silence.html?m=1

You'd think this great man of literature would do better than such a series of cliches

... I haven't responded yet because I'm so respectful... I'm so sad this happened... What happened didn't happen like these misguided women think.. If it did happen I didn't mean it... I was emotionally unavailable (implying the women wanted a relationship)... I'm learning and growing... Some things happened and some didn't (I won't tell you what I am denying, as there is evidence but I'll muddy the waters)

He is an OLD pervert and abuser

Apparently more investigations in the pipeline.

 

[TapToBoreMeRigid]

I trust men based on how they behave and not on what they publicly roar.

 

[femmegirly]

That is a very intriguing idea. I am sure Jonathan and Jane split up for awhile and she was with someone before getting back together. Once a cheater....

It does make we wonder, Gaiman had a lot of celebrity friends. Who knew about all of this?

Yes, Jane ran off to Canada with Ed from Barenaked Ladies around 2003 and Jonathan was in the papers begging for her to come back. All evidence of it has since been removed from the internet at great expense to the Ross’s.

 

[skronkywildcat]

Is anyone mentioning the Jonathan Ross connection? Ross groomed his now wife when she was 16 and he was 30. Ross’ wife produced the film adaptation of Neil Gaiman’s book Stardust. Neil frequently stayed at the Ross’ house in Florida and met up with them in London - he and Ross shared a love of comics and were close friends. Ross was there and took part in the phonecall that Russell Brand made to Andrew Sachs about his granddaughter.

 

[smartalec]

I'm currently listening to the podcast and shot here because I KNEW there'd be a thread on him. I have no idea who Amanda Palmer is and don't really think much of Gaiman as I'm not into fantasy, although years ago I did read some rather unsettling stories by him and I didn't know whether I liked them or not.

I'm on episode 2, and feeling rather ill. It's clear that he is very manipulative and downright weird, but there isn't anything that I personally would categorise as abusive and Scarlett's texts to him are anything but discouraging. I'm not surprised people are struggling to see their relationship as anything but consensual based on the evidence thusfar. And yet I can see into her head, and have been there to the extent that I too have disassociated from my body during sex because I so badly didn't want it to happen; and have sent a few desperate friendly happy messages to bely how disgusting I felt. I can imagine how her longing to be accepted and nurtured made her continue with something she didn't enjoy because she enjoyed the rest of it, which seemed to be her being cared for and part of a family.

It would be deeply unfair of me to call what happened rape and I never would, but it affected me hugely. I wound up in hospital after it too and it took me years to come to terms with it. I don't think that is the fault of the bloke though.

Gaiman is significantly older than the man in my experience and GETTING INTO A BATH WITH HER is bloody weird to say the least. I do wonder what would have happened to Scarlett if she had said no, or stop. Because it does seem to be that you have to be explicit in your NO; the man doesn't have to get consent explicitly, but you have to withdraw it very clearly and firmly for it to count. ETA: I haven't heard any explicit "nos" in the podcast thusfar but can finally read the article and I see there are plenty of them!

I can see him genuinely believing that he didn't do anything wrong, probably because he has done it so many times before and hasn't heard "no" from anyone or been asked to examine his own behaviour.

It's very hard to get my head around all this. I don't know if this makes sense to anyone else. I normally binge podcasts but I'm not sure I can do it with this one.

Have you read the article? Due to British libel laws, and how many women had come forward, there is much more explicit evidence in the article.

 

[theleagueofgentlemen]

There’s a Facebook group that I (was) in called something like ‘Neil gaiman being wholesome’ and I’d completely forgotten I was even in it until it showed up on my timeline today with the owner of the group just begging people to leave the group because she was SO upset and triggered by the ‘Vulture’ article that she didn’t have the spoons to have anything to do with it anymore. I felt SO sorry for her.
The article is such a hard read. What an absolute piece of shit.

 

[theleagueofgentlemen]

I don't think it will. OJ was a rare case in that he was considered innocent by a ton of people. Neil isn't. Neil is dead to rights. Plus in a perverted way, what he did some think is worse than what OJ did.

Oh mark my words when I say that people will still stick up for Gaiman.
You’ve only got to look at how many people crucified Amber Heard cause they have a parasocial relationship with pirate man.
This will be the same.

 

[TheStrawberryThief]

I am sure she will have had advice before agreeing to breach her NDA. You are also on dodgy ground using an NDA if if covers ' criminal' behaviour. Depends on how legal it is to ask for sex acts instead of rent...

He is really rolling in muck like a pig here.
He isn't trying to defend himself by saying it was a misunderstanding, or the NDA was to cover an affair and the rest is lies/exaggeration etc.

He is embarrassed he was caught, not embarrassed about what he did.

 

[VeniVidiVicki]

no, it felt glib to say it given *gestures at everything else* but there's something desperately wrong with someone who, rather than employ, you know, a qualified background-checked childcare professional to take care of your child, you just hand your kid over to someone you *literally* met on the street.

This is why I’m wondering if she picked girls she knew would appeal to him. So satisfying his sexual proclivities came first, care for their child second.

 

[Vanelope]

Ugh he’s vile.

(please read with caution if easily triggered, the article expands on the sexual abuse he’s been accused of, and is quite detailed).

The Dark Secrets Behind the Neil Gaiman Abuse Accusations

archived 13 Jan 2025 13:29:11 UTC

archive.is

Absolutely disgusting. A really tough read.

Then Michael Stipe turns up at the end…(as a good guy)

 

[femmegirly]

His wife apparently knew it was all going on and served the vulnerable nanny up on a plate.

 

[Harlot O'Scara]

Found this on twitter. Mr Talented Feminist stole his ideas from a woman.

From a brief look into Tanith Lee's work, this seems like a stretch on the part of this poster. Her work and Gaiman's cover similar themes, but they aren't original to either of them.

I notice no side by side comparisons of text are included.

Gaiman is facing very serious allegations and muddying the waters with petty shit like this is imo disrespectful to the victims. Now isn't the time for fantasy stan wars.

 

[theleagueofgentlemen]

I read it.
I genuinely thought I’d unfollowed Gaiman but apparently not. And i was at work and a bit bored so I read it.
It ’proves’ absolutely nothing at all. It just seems to be a collection of screenshots of people being mean to him and the suggestion that there was a collective coordinated “take down” of him by terfs and antisemites.
Don’t get me wrong, the Antisemitism is absolutely vile to read. But it proved nothing.
Id go so far as to say that either him or Palmer wrote the substack too