Monkeypox

[Merpedy]

With chicken pox you keep the sick child at home you don’t isolate the entire class! Or traditionally we had chicken pox parties!

Apparently there's a vaccine for chicken pox but it's not administered in the UK often. Seems to be more commonly used in the US though, not sure about Canada

Either way, and as my brief Google search suggests, schools/nurseries may (or should? Someone here probably knows more) notify parents that someone has chickenpox and to watch out for symptoms. I'd assume the same would be done with monkeypox. Think the bigger problem is in countries where schools don't seem to have the same/similar approaches to keeping parents informed and children healthy though

 

[Emmelina Ball]

Chickenpox isn’t as severe as Monkeypox to certain groups.

There are many viruses that are severe to certain groups that doesn’t mean an entire class should isolate because one person has it.

The more we keep “isolating” and attempting to “contain” viruses, the weaker the populations immunity will be as a whole. Look around at the childrens hepatitis cases - they are linking it to lockdowns. Think of how many more things like this will happen if people aren’t allowed to get sick anymore. Monkeypox for the majority of people is a mild illness and should be treated as such. If someone doesn’t want to take the risk they can stay at home but an entire class shouldn’t lose out on education because one or two are sick.

Apparently there's a vaccine for chicken pox but it's not administered in the UK often. Seems to be more commonly used in the US though, not sure about Canada

Either way, and as my brief Google search suggests, schools/nurseries may (or should? Someone here probably knows more) notify parents that someone has chickenpox and to watch out for symptoms. I'd assume the same would be done with monkeypox. Think the bigger problem is in countries where schools don't seem to have the same/similar approaches to keeping parents informed and children healthy though

We had chickenpox in my sons class a few months ago. We didn’t receive any official warning. It was talked about in the parents group chat. Half the class got it and half didn’t. It’s just part of life! There is a vaccine but it’s not given routinely on the nhs because it isn’t appropriate to do so. Children with chicken pox help adults retain their immunity so it’s helpful for the population for children to get chickenpox whereas if they are vaccinated their immunity can wear off and they can suffer more severely themselves with chicken pox or shingles.

 

[monga]

There are many viruses that are severe to certain groups that doesn’t mean an entire class should isolate because one person has it.

The more we keep “isolating” and attempting to “contain” viruses, the weaker the populations immunity will be as a whole. Look around at the childrens hepatitis cases - they are linking it to lockdowns. Think of how many more things like this will happen if people aren’t allowed to get sick anymore. Monkeypox for the majority of people is a mild illness and should be treated as such. If someone doesn’t want to take the risk they can stay at home but an entire class shouldn’t lose out on education because one or two are sick.


We had chickenpox in my sons class a few months ago. We didn’t receive any official warning. It was talked about in the parents group chat. Half the class got it and half didn’t. It’s just part of life! There is a vaccine but it’s not given routinely on the nhs because it isn’t appropriate to do so. Children with chicken pox help adults retain their immunity so it’s helpful for the population for children to get chickenpox whereas if they are vaccinated their immunity can wear off and they can suffer more severely themselves with chicken pox or shingles.

Like I say it’s the risk to pregnant women I would find more concerning, look up Monkeypox in pregnancy, it doesn’t make for good reading , also kids can’t have the Monkeypox vaccine ( as far as I’m aware) so the damage of sending kids to school with Monkeypox could be great.

 

[Emmelina Ball]

Like I say it’s the risk to pregnant women I would find more concerning, look up Monkeypox in pregnancy, it doesn’t make for good reading , also kids can’t have the Monkeypox vaccine ( as far as I’m aware) so the damage of sending kids to school with Monkeypox could be great.

Most viruses react more severely in pregnant women. It’s because their immune system is weaker which makes them more susceptible to getting sick. I don’t support kids getting a monkeypox/smallpox vaccine. I feel strongly that all children shouldn’t isolate because one person is sick, kids would never be in school if that’s the case. The sick person should stay off school - like they do with every other illness (vomit and diarrhoea/chickenpox/flu). The idea that a whole class should go into isolation as a result of one child being ill is bonkers.

 

[monga]

Most viruses react more severely in pregnant women. It’s because their immune system is weaker which makes them more susceptible to getting sick. I don’t support kids getting a monkeypox/smallpox vaccine. I feel strongly that all children shouldn’t isolate because one person is sick, kids would never be in school if that’s the case. The sick person should stay off school - like they do with every other illness (vomit and diarrhoea/chickenpox/flu). The idea that a whole class should go into isolation as a result of one child being ill is bonkers.

it’s the unborn child’s at severe risk , because of the long incubation period it would be hard to tell how many of the class were infected, as the Quebec school didn’t take any action there could be a lot of consequences from that, milder illnesses should be allowed to spread but those that have dire outcomes in the unborn have further reaching implications imo .
Even the vaccine is not given to adults unless there’s exceptional need

https://www.ema.europa.eu/en/documents/product-information/imvanex-epar-product-information_en.pdf

 

[Emmelina Ball]

it’s the unborn child’s at severe risk , because of the long incubation period it would be hard to tell how many of the class were infected, as the Quebec school didn’t take any action there could be a lot of consequences from that, milder illnesses should be allowed to spread but those that have dire outcomes in the unborn have further reaching implications imo .

You could say the same about the risk of chickenpox, slapped cheek and even cold sores affecting the unborn baby severely having dire outcomes.

 

[monga]

You could say the same about the risk of chickenpox, slapped cheek and even cold sores affecting the unborn baby severely having dire outcomes.

Still not as severe as Monkeypox, we know how severe German Measles is in pregnancy so we take action to try and eliminate the risk.

 

[Emmelina Ball]

Still not as severe as Monkeypox, we know how severe German Measles is in pregnancy so we take action to try and eliminate the risk.

Chickenpox, CMV (cold sore virus) and slapped cheek syndrome can cause stillbirth I’m not sure how much more severe you can get!

 

[monga]

Chickenpox, CMV (cold sore virus) and slapped cheek syndrome can cause stillbirth I’m not sure how much more severe you can get!

Isn’t that my point ! we don’t send kids to school with these illnesses on advice of public health, even impetigo isn’t acceptable so why should we send them with Monkeypox

 

[Emmelina Ball]

Isn’t that my point ! we don’t send kids to school with these illnesses on advice of public health, even impetigo isn’t acceptable.

My point is we don’t isolate the whole class, we only keep the sick one at home. Most of the time with chickenpox, children mix before they know they have it. Most of the time slapped cheek is spread before they know they have it, no one stays off for a coldsore unless it’s accompanied by other symptoms. Fact is you can’t stop a virus in its tracks if you could they wouldn’t exist now. Best you can do is keep the sick one off and treat their symptoms.

 

[monga]

My point is we don’t isolate the whole class, we only keep the sick one at home. Most of the time with chickenpox, children mix before they know they have it. Most of the time slapped cheek is spread before they know they have it, no one stays off for a coldsore unless it’s accompanied by other symptoms. Fact is you can’t stop a virus in its tracks if you could they wouldn’t exist now. Best you can do is keep the sick one off and treat their symptoms.

But my point was from the tweet above where they weren’t isolating even the infected case ,so letting it rip through the schools is crazy imo.Monkeypox is not as transmissible as chickenpox or other diseases so there is a chance of containment.

 

[Emmelina Ball]

But my point was from the tweet above where they weren’t isolating even the infected case ,so letting it rip through the schools is crazy imo.

So for clarity do you support and suggest an entire class isolate (because your comments seemed to be advocating that in order to protect others outside the classroom they should all isolate), or is your issue that the sick one isn’t isolating? I’m lost.

Most responsible parents would keep a sick child at home whether it was a public health requirement or not.

 

[monga]

So for clarity do you support and suggest an entire class isolate (because your comments seemed to be advocating that in order to protect others outside the classroom they should all isolate), or is your issue that the sick one isn’t isolating? I’m lost.

Most responsible parents would keep a sick child at home whether it was a public health requirement or not.

If they’re a close contact ( within 1mtr) yes they should isolate, this disease is containable compared to other more transmissible infections.

 

[Emmelina Ball]

If they’re a close contact ( within 1mtr) yes they should isolate, this disease is containable compared to other more transmissible infections.

Ok thanks for clarifying, that’s were I disagree with you. I feel that only sick people should stay at home and they should have freedom to return when they feel better - like they do with other illnesses.

 

[monga]

Ok thanks for clarifying, that’s were I disagree with you. I feel that only sick people should stay at home and they should have freedom to return when they feel better - like they do with other illnesses.

That’s fine ,we all have different opinions .

 

[monga]

https://news.sky.com/story/monkeypo...gland-uk-health-security-agency-says-12624236Monkeypox: 71 additional cases identified in England, UK Health Security Agency says

 

[monga]

 

[Warpaint]

Doesn't seem to be getting on any of the main news thankfully

 

[monga]

Doesn't seem to be getting on any of the main news thankfully

Hopefully it stays that way we can't be doing with anymore surprises

 

[Prefrontalmedialcortex]

The more we keep “isolating” and attempting to “contain” viruses, the weaker the populations immunity will be as a whole. Look around at the childrens hepatitis cases - they are linking it to lockdowns. Think of how many more things like this will happen if people aren’t allowed to get sick anymore. Monkeypox for the majority of people is a mild illness and should be treated as such. If someone doesn’t want to take the risk they can stay at home but an entire class shouldn’t lose out on education because one or two are sick.

That was one hypothesis of many. It has not been linked to lockdowns, it has not been linked to anything as of yet. They’re still investigating it with the most probable cause being adenovirus or a Covid-19 infection.