Model gossip #2

[Millais]

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Nicole Kidman's daughter walking for Miu Miu. I'm saying nothing.

Princess Anne’s looking well.

 

[LaraQ]

Nicole Kidman's daughter walking for Miu Miu. I'm saying nothing.

 

[Lorelai heart]

Ok so am i the only one who doesn’t understand the obsession with Bella Hadid’s face? She needs to stop with whatever procedure is sucking the fat out of her face cause it’s ageing her so much.

 

[HoneyNed]

Just found this thread! Love model chat.

My claim to fame, Erin O'Connor called me a "r etard" when I was 13 and went on a shopping trip to London. I bloody loved Vogue and fashion, tried to be an Olsen twin with my huge disgusting Starbucks etc like a pretentious teen, and did probably stare like a weirdo (Topshop Oxford circus). The worst part was she rolled her R's for ages when she said it and laughed with the friend she was with. Mortified.. never looked at her the same again and I didn't even speak to her

 

[consumerism makes u free]

If my supermodel mom's face skipped me and went to my cousin instead I'd probably take it less well than Grace.

 

[SqualorVictoria]

I mean, in some ways you might even feel a tiny bit sorry for Lottie- imagine trying to live up to your sister when that sister is Kate Moss. There's two options, you can either just accept your sister is one of the most iconic supermodels of all time or you can try to compete. Lottie chose the latter and let's face it, most people are going to be on a losing battle if they try to compete with Kate Moss

And not only did she try to compete, she actually felt that Kate should have given her a big break, that Kate owed her something. Instead of being happy for her big sister on her wedding day, her and her mother seemed to enjoy their (totally imaginary) theory that Lottie stole the limelight off the bride. The nerve and sense of entitlement is just off the scale!

The jealousy and spite is unreal

 

[SqualorVictoria]

I know, it's hilarious that Lottie thinks she is owed anything by Kate. Lottie, you're trash. Oh and the part about how she apparently outshined Kate at her wedding and Lottie's mom was like "your sister won't be happy"- ridiculous

“It was so funny,” Lottie recalled. “My mum was like, ‘Your sister is going to be so p***ed.

"No one noticed her, everyone was like, ‘Who’s that?’.”

No way did that happen

 

[LaraQ]

Must be nice to have famous parents.

 

[thegirlscout]

They both look tragic. I know Bella is a nepo too, but this cover was breathtaking

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All I see is a rich girl who stole Carla Bruni’s face haha. Really don’t get the Bella hype

 

[thegirlscout]

I don’t know about this designer but this is really worrying that he did this and lied multiple times why

 

[SqualorVictoria]

I love this part:

She said: 'Every person's house I go to they have some sort of Kate Moss poster, Kate Moss book, Kate Moss Diet Coke can, and everyone brings her up. I've felt for a very long time that nothing I did was ever going to be as good as what she's done.

'I can't top that, so where does that leave me?'

Why do you have to top that? If your sister was a renowned accountant would you feel the need to try and top it? Lottie just wanted Kate's fame and money without having any of the talent

 

[Clytemnestra]

Some fashion is generally quite odd. I keep getting ads for this Johanna Ortiz print:

Which just reminds me of this:

 

[SqualorVictoria]

Imagine the uproar if that was printed today!!
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I don’t find it offensive. It’s a women’s magazine aimed at women talking about how a woman has a great mind and legs. What’s the big deal? We talk about how we like models looks here, that’s not us reducing women to their looks and nothing else
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I find this era fascinating- I was 20 in 1996 (I probably bought this very issue!) and we just thought it was entirely normal. Women were so heavily sexualised, it was horrendous when you look back on it. My boyfriend at uni and all his friends had posters of women all over their walls from magazines, lads’ mags etc and we just accepted it - women just treated as tits and ass, basically.

Posters on the wall are pretty innocent compared to the constant 24/7 porn that’s available on devices nowadays though

 

[tobaccolungss]

Besides the few favoured nepo babies, models are drab. This bloke believes it's deliberate. I wonder if there's any truth to what he says.

high fashion model here - 100% truth to it. It's bloody frustrating, esp. since I constantly see people saying models today are 'giving us nothing'. True, I can't say I'm particularly impressed with my own body of work but it's completely out of our control. We get shown moodboards and I always make a point to try things out that align with the concept, but 99% of the time the image that's used is the one where I'm just standing still looking pissed off. It's particularly frustrating if you're a model that has a real interest in/love for the art of fashion because every shoot/show you do you're just told to stand still, if you try and move around or look like you have any kind of personality they (art directors, photographer, etc.) tell you to stop and go back to being boring. Bella has a good body of work in my opinion but of course she does - she first of all does all the big campaigns with huge budgets, and they're booking her because she's HER. For the rest of us they just need 1x blonde model, 1 black (Sudanese most of the time) model with short hair just to fill out the clothes. It works well for brands because they don't have to pay nearly as much, but for the average model who does not come from money, to shoot with a high end brand is a huge opportunity and most of us aren't used to getting paid that much money, so of course we say yes when a luxury brand offer you £3000 for a global campaign when our peers from years ago would get millions for the same job.

It's beyond frustrating because a lot of us would LOVE to be able to actually be good performers, but as mentioned in that text the designers don't want the models to be recognised. When models are recognised their rates go up. They stop tolerating shit from people and designers/creative teams have to start treating models like actual people and not just figurines they can shove around, waste hours and hours of their time, shove pins into (yep this has happened to me, the person had the cheek to say "oh no, your blood's on the clothes" ) and all the rest of the nonsense your average model deals with.

I think now the only way non-nepo / celebrity models can actually have some sort of fulfilling career where they get to show their personality is if they have other interests or ventures that do well/essentially gets them the following that will bring awareness to brands they work with. You just have to have clout. On paper it sounds lucrative - my non-fashion friends gasped when I told them some of my rates (which are considered low compared to what they used to be) but since they only care about looks and are obssessed with finding 'new faces' there's no guarantee when your next job will be, you can easily go months with no work. But the second you're proactive and get a real job you lose it because your agent starts calling you at 11pm to say you need to get a eurostar to paris the following morning to go see some designer (you end up going - at your own expense btw - and don't even get the job lol.)

Frustrating times but since I'm a chronically young looking and lanky person in their mid twenties I'm still trying to make the most of it whilst I can and using it to (just about cover) essentials whilst I build my other freelance income streams. I used to get so confused when I read about models complaining about the industry because it seemed so easy, but now I'm in it I'm like OHHHHHHHH.

 

[TrolleyParton]

Make it look like you've just carried yer nan's handbag in from the car, took your shoes off and flopped down on her sofa. But in Paris.

 

[EnjoyingTheShow]

Kate gets her looks from her mum. Lottie only has the same dad as Kate, and looks exactly like him.

Kate's (full) brother Nick had a brief attempt at modelling in the 90s. Looks like Kate has always tried to help her family get modelling jobs.

You’re absolutely right, Kate and Nick are the spitting image of their Mum, Linda. Nick absolutely had what it took to be a model, especially the 90s variety of model. I don’t know why he didn’t stick it out, he would have made a fortune. Wonder if he had a serious drug problem or something. Dipping in to him over the years, seems like he was a drifter, odd job kind of guy, turning his hand to something different on a whim. I think his latest venture was some foodie van, only successful because Kate promoted it.

I just can’t get over skanky Lottie. The other difference between her and Lila is that like her mum, Lila keeps her mouth shut, or only gives exclusive interviews, and always for an A List product or designer. Lottie blabs away to any five pence publication and puts absolutely everything (literally!) on show. Absolutely no mystery or intrigue to her whatsoever, which was always Kate’s asset.

https://www.archive.is/oldest/https...Lottie-Moss-steps-lookalike-mother-Inger.html

Lottie I think also looks like her mother who is a rather harsh looking Scandi, unfortunately.

Kate, in her younger modelling days could also look somewhat ‘Japanese’ almost, it was the most captivating, exquisite thing. I think she got this quality from her dad, Peter, his eye area is very similar. I remember reading a journalist’s description back in the day of Kate, like early 2000s, Who said Kate’s features somewhat ‘float’ in her face, which sounds bonkers but actually is the perfect description! I think it’s this visual that makes (made) her breathtaking.

Sorry, I sound a bit obsessed! I was always very hypnotised by Kate’s unusual beauty!

 

[Patrickthewonderdog]

I find this era fascinating- I was 20 in 1996 (I probably bought this very issue!) and we just thought it was entirely normal. Women were so heavily sexualised, it was horrendous when you look back on it. My boyfriend at uni and all his friends had posters of women all over their walls from magazines, lads’ mags etc and we just accepted it - women just treated as tits and ass, basically.

 

[Patrickthewonderdog]

I hadn’t seen Nicole Kidman’s daughter so looked her up. Wtaf - she’s not a model at all! I don’t want to slag off a 16 year old girl, but she is NOT a model. She’s the most mid-looking 16 year old around.

 

[SqualorVictoria]

I don’t hate her either, far from it. I think she’s pretty and seems like a lovely person but I also think we’d be kidding ourselves if we said that it wasn’t her name giving her all these gigs

 

[SqualorVictoria]

It honestly is a bit depressing that all these nepo babies got opportunities handed to them but women who genuinely have the model factor are getting ignored. Besides, is it not a more exciting story that a model was plucked from obscurity, e.g Kate Moss at an airport coming back from holidays, rather than "she's such and such's granddaughter, daughter etc"