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PineappleQueen19

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Did anyone watch finding neverland about MJ or the R Kelly documentary? Both of those were really interesting too I thought.
Both excellent and in the case of R Kelly, fantastic that a documentary can directly lead to justice.

I watched the Bikram Yoga documentary on the weekend, it’s also brilliant and jaw dropping. How the hell is that guy not locked up behind bars?
 
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Hello.am

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That’s based on a true story I think. Remember reading about it
Yeah it's all true and court case as recent as think was Feb 2019 before it got resolved, shows in the court and people's different opinions on it don't want to give it away but good watch
.. I say good watch it's obv very sad but interesting
 
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PineappleQueen19

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Will have to watch Escape from Dannemora.
Try not to google anything about it until you’ve seen it. It is based on a true story and it was on the news in America for weeks while it all unfolded. I had zero knowledge so found it gripping not knowing what was going to happen. The attention to detail and accuracy is said to be incredible. Patricia won a Golden Globe for it I think.

I’m going to have to rewatch it now :D
 
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Chloe123456

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Did anyone else become really invested in this? 😂 does anyone know of similar series/documentaries to watch?
I was obsessed. I bet I watched seasons 1-2, four or five times if not more. It’s unreal !!
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Yes I think the police searched his trailer home several times and on the last time they found the keys to the victims car behind a bedside table I think it was, yet they'd already looked there and found nothing. The implication being that it was planted.
Yeah it was only found on the 8th visit by officer Lenk who shouldn’t have even been as the Calumet county LE shouldn’t have been involved because of the deposition
 
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Peanut0205

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Chuffed I’ve found this thread 🙌🏽

Making a murderer - really uncomfortable viewing, I believe that Avery is a nasty character, and he’s probably guilty of a lot of things but I DONT think he killed Teresa. The state targeted Brendan because he was easy to manipulate. I think the final nail in the coffin of police conspiracy was the phone call basically calling in the green Toyota ‘is it this license plate blah blah blah’. Unbelievable.

Abducted in plain sight was absolutely bizarre but gripping, every time you thought it couldn’t get weirder it did!

Tell me who I am I watched recently and feel like it started really strongly with intrigue but then I sort of guessed what happened to them and could see why the brother had decided to edit the narrative.

The staircase I thought was brilliant but a little long, I also listened to a podcast that went into a lot more detail, he definitely did kill her in my opinion though.

Did anyone watch finding neverland about MJ or the R Kelly documentary? Both of those were really interesting too I thought.
 
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Tui

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I saw the owl theory and then I watched a vid of someone saying why it couldn’t be that .. just different peoples opinions on utube .. I felt he was guilty but still not 100 % definite till I watched a load of body language analysts on utube explaining why he was & some of the things he says reminds me of the mcanns (I got really into statement analysis by a guy called peter Hyatt .. he says people pretty much give themselves away in their language without realising & it’s so true ). The fact his first wife/gf in Germany was found dead at the bottom of the stairs as well 🤔🤔
It was his neighbours wife and she had a brain haemorrhage on the landing and fell down the stairs. She wasn’t murdered. I thought it was atrocious they brought that up given he adopted the dead woman’s children. I think he was innocent simply because I believe the theory she was inebriated, fell and bled out from her scalp injuries. There wasn’t enough evidence for motive. He is a strange man but I don’t think he killed his wife. The fact he has refused to admit guilt in all this time is something which is shared with cases of wrongful conviction.

The two podcast series about the murder of Hae Min Lee are fascinating - Serial and Undisclosed. Absolutely superb.
 
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Tui

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I felt the same I couldn't make my mind up on him. But I'm leaning towards him just being a bit strange and i think she was out of it on alcohol and valium or something.
Only yesterday (after seeing this post!) I have been listening to the BBC podcast 'Beyond Reasonable Doubt'. I didn't realise that although she had alcohol in her bloodstream she was still under the North Carolina (and British) drink drive limit. Diazepam would exacerbate the effect of any alcohol she did drink but it struck me as unusual as I recall the defence making out she was drunk.

I also had no idea that the Petersons were in stacks of debt, something like 140,000 USD of credit card debt alone, and they were trying to help Michael's two sons who couldn't even pay off the monthly interest on their own debt. Kathleen's company was laying off thousands of people and she was literally worth more dead than alive. In contrast, Michael wasn't bring much cash in. Puts a different spin on things.

I think I still have doubt that he killed her, even with the possible financial motive. They allege he beat her to death but if you struck someone half a dozen times with a metal blowpoke surely you would have some sort of brain injury - her brain was not swollen or bruised and she had no skull fractures. I find it odd that her cause of death was deemed to be brain injury from beating when it seems to me it was haemorrhage. I found the scientific evidence from the defence pretty convincing of that, in addition to their evidence that the blood spray along the skirting could be explained by someone coughing or breathing into a pool of blood for a long period.
 
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His nephew was definitely innocent imo.

I think I thought Steven was too- there was something about a key IIRC.
Yes I think the police searched his trailer home several times and on the last time they found the keys to the victims car behind a bedside table I think it was, yet they'd already looked there and found nothing. The implication being that it was planted.
 
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I am a killer is def worth a watch.
Unbelievable is very good too, shocking what happens in the world.
Loved the staircase.. Have any of use looked at the "owl theory?" have to agree tho I have a feeling he's guilty.. But found it interesting to look at the different theories.
Brendan an Steven are both innocent, something dodgy about the other "uncle" feel for the poor men spending their life in jail for something they haven't done 😢
 
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PineappleQueen19

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Not a documentary but The Night Of is a brilliant crime/drama series starring Riz Ahmed. I binged it. Fiction but an eye-opening account of the NYC justice system and racial prejudice.

And Escape From Dannemora is an excellent biographical crime/drama series. All the acting is good but Patricia Arquette is superb.
 
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We were both hooked on Making a Murderer, it really sucks you in doesn’t it as it’s so involved, we both went off googling to see if we could find more info about what’s happening in the cases. Couldn’t get into The Staircase.

when they see Us (about the Central Park five) I watched on my own and got hooked and again went on to YouTube and there are several good docs on there about it too
 
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Has anyone seen the daily wire thing called convicting a murderer? They seem to be blowing MaM out of the water?

I’ve only seen the preview (no idea how to watch daily wire in the U.K. ) but it looks really good and obviously Reddit is on fire.
I’d be surprised if it’s not completely skewed Candace Owens is hard right political commentator
 
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Lars Guinard

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Not a documentary but The Night Of is a brilliant crime/drama series starring Riz Ahmed. I binged it. Fiction but an eye-opening account of the NYC justice system and racial prejudice.

And Escape From Dannemora is an excellent biographical crime/drama series. All the acting is good but Patricia Arquette is superb.
Riz Ahmed was brilliant in The Night Of, I kept thinking he would be a good choice to play Adnan Syed if there ever was a film made of his life. Nightcrawler is another good film starring Riz Ahmed.
Will have to watch Escape from Dannemora.
 
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Lars Guinard

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Try not to google anything about it until you’ve seen it. It is based on a true story and it was on the news in America for weeks while it all unfolded. I had zero knowledge so found it gripping not knowing what was going to happen. The attention to detail and accuracy is said to be incredible. Patricia won a Golden Globe for it I think.

I’m going to have to rewatch it now :D
Thank you for the advice on not Googling, will add to my list now. I think Patricia Arquette is brilliant, so looking forward to watching this.
 
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