I’m not saying she was abducted. I don’t know what happened to her. Nobody does. The fact is she went somewhere. But you can’t assume anything. You have to go with evidence. There is no evidence her parents had anything to do with her disappearance.
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I agree. They were incredibly stupid and reckless to leave the children alone.
The left her alone, she disappeared because of that. Either directly or indirectly it was their fault.
I don’t have any strong feelings about how they behaved or what questions they did or didn’t answer. But I don’t think there’s any evidence they killed her.
Their behaviour hindered an actual investigation. Does that seem normal? They don’t have to have murdered her to be responsible.
That’s true. They could be considered responsible. But there’s no evidence they killed her, whether deliberately or by accident.
If I absolutely had to guess I’d say she woke up, wandered off in search of her parents and either met with foul play or an accident. Abduction seems unlikely but so was Sarah Paynes abduction.
The McCanns - particularly Gerry - were unco-operative with the police enquiry as they quickly realised they were under investigation. Whether that is normal or not, it is not evidence of anything - something you find suspicious is not evidence.
They were careless and negligent in leaving 3x children alone, without doubt, but that is not comparable with concealing a death, murder, or abduction.
They were careless and negligent in leaving 3x children alone, without doubt, but that is not comparable with concealing a death, murder, or abduction.
We will always agree to disagree on this point Nellys mum their behaviour before the police investigation hindered everything, calling sky news before the police, having everyone trash the crime scene when it was them who said it was abduction, writing out an agreed timeline in her colouring book before calling the police, not looking for her themselves, all this before they came under suspicion so their behaviour didnt change when they were asked to answer some questions it remained unhelpful and weird
The parents did search for her.
Having everyone trash the crime scene is a weird comment - they discovered MM was missing and alerted their friends, their friends were concerned and came into the apartment. What else would you expect them to do - they were worried and wanted to help - do you think the McCanns deliberately plotted this?
But yeh, we will always disagree in this
There’s no verified evidence that they called Sky news before they called the police.
To me this is the point where examination of all the weird stuff they did is important. I don’t think you can really just not have an opinion on them and their actions but also think they definitely left the kids alone to wander off. It doesn’t make sense.
Isn’t it a given that when someone goes missing that those closest to them are investigated? So why would they be worried about that? It’s protocol.
If my child had gone missing and the police told me that if I walked down the street butt naked it would help find them, then I’d do it.
I’d tell them ANYTHING they wanted to know as I’d have nothing to hide.
I certainly wouldn’t refuse a reenactment of the nights events.
Where did I say they definitely did anything? I said if I absolutely had to guess.
Of course it's a given that those closest are investigated when a child that goes missing - I said that the McCanns were unco-operative when they realised this - but this is not evidence that they have anything to hide.
When a child goes missing 90% of the time someone close to them is involved, so obviously the McCanns would be investigated. However that leaves 10% of parents who had absolutely nothing to do with their child going missing (beyond leaving them alone in an unlocked apartment in the McCann's case).
Regarding the parents doing a re-enactment - no legal advisor would ever suggest doing this, the police ask people they suspect of being involved in a crime to do a re-enactment as its a great way of making yourself look guilty. Of course you'd want to co-operate but you wouldn't want to end up in prison, and the perpetrator getting away with it, if you hadn't done anything.
eta - when I said 'normal' in my previous comment I meant whether it is normal behaviour to be unco-operative with a police investigation. Of course it is normal practice for the parents of a missing child to be investigated.
Just to clarify.
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I personally think that the McCanns are lying about something and in my personal opinion it's the check ins. I strongly doubt that they were checking on the kids as much as they say they were, if at all. And they know, deep down, no matter how they try and spin it, that the public would be wildly against them if they admitted it. So they behave strangely to cover up that lie.
But they were sitting in public view sitting at the tapas bar, staff and everybody in the vicinity could see who was coming and going to do checks, they could hardly hide this.
I have often wondered if this is the case. They have lied about something because their statements and behaviour were all over the place, but it could be as simple as they lied about checking the children to make themselves look better, but it’s had the unfortunate effect of making them look like they are lying about something much worse.
That said, I’ve always felt that the dog evidence is correct.
This is what I think, they've lied about something relatively minor and now, as lies do, it's spiralled.
I haven't seen anything that verifies that they were checking on the children. What about when they trollied off to the Irish bar, did they go up and down every 30 minutes?!
If we believe that Maddie cried the night before for 90 minutes (which I'm not sure I do, that is a very long time for a child to cry without being sick or exhausting themselves to sleep) then they couldn't have been.
Well, we know for a fact they lied about leaving the door unlocked. And only admitted to it once the police proved there was no way the window had been ‘jemmied’ as claimed.
And lying about leaving a door unlocked in that situation is far from relatively minor.
Who knows what else they’re lying about, if they are only admitting to facts when caught bang to rights.
And lying about leaving a door unlocked in that situation is far from relatively minor.
Who knows what else they’re lying about, if they are only admitting to facts when caught bang to rights.