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Sorry to jump randomly into the thread- long time lurker.
My kids are around the same age Maddie would be now, and I remember when they were smaller, 2 or 3 years old, there was a ‘popular’ medication available OTC called Medised. IIRC, it was a children’s paracetamol combined with an antihistamine.
It was used to help with pain but also had a mild sedative effect. I often wondered over the years if this is what the McCanns may have used to help the kids sleep. It was often touted on parenting forums as being good for keeping kids settled on long journeys/ flights.
I don’t think it’s available anymore but most OTC sleeping tablets for adults have the same antihistamine ingredients.
It was exactly the same as Calpol Night.
 
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The dogs alerted in their apartment and in the boot of their hire car.

When asked why that would be - Jerry's response was: 'Ask the dogs Sandra'.

If you believe in the dogs there is only one explanation..........................
 
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The dogs alerted in their apartment and in the boot of their hire car.

When asked why that would be - Jerry's response was: 'Ask the dogs Sandra'.

If you believe in the dogs there is only one explanation..........................
Yes but evidence is needed to support the dogs indication, otherwise all you have is a dog that sat down or barked or whatever. They are trained dogs but without evidence you have nothing.
 
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The dogs alerted in their apartment and in the boot of their hire car.

When asked why that would be - Jerry's response was: 'Ask the dogs Sandra'.

If you believe in the dogs there is only one explanation..........................
The hire care they rented weeks after the disappearance? Did they dig her up and move her or something all while being watched and accosted by the non-stop British press? They are the greatest criminals in the history of criminals according to some on here.
 
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Yes but evidence is needed to support the dogs indication, otherwise all you have is a dog that sat down or barked or whatever. They are trained dogs but without evidence you have nothing.
Agreed but I nevertheless believe in the dogs..........
 
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The hire care they rented weeks after the disappearance? Did they dig her up and move her or something all while being watched and accosted by the non-stop British press? They are the greatest criminals in the history of criminals according to some on here.
Didn't necessary have to be a body, could be anything that came into contact with one. Someone (in my opinion) died in that apartment and there is only one missing person.
 
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Didn't necessary have to be a body, could be anything that came into contact with one. Someone (in my opinion) died in that apartment and there is only one missing person.
How do you think the parents got rid of MM's body when they were at the tapas bar? Do you think this could have happened before they went for dinner - so they disposed of her body, while looking after the twins, then went for dinner? Or they hid her body, while looking after the twins, then disposed of her later with the eyes of the press on them?

I dunno, it sounds a stretch to me, like how and why would they do this?
 
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How do you think the parents got rid of MM's body when they were at the tapas bar? Do you think this could have happened before they went for dinner - so they disposed of her body, while looking after the twins, then went for dinner? Or they hid her body, while looking after the twins, then disposed of her later with the eyes of the press on them?

I dunno, it sounds a stretch to me, like how and why would they do this?
This is where “the McCanns did it” theory loses me, I just can’t fathom how they’d dispose of a body with everything else going on as you said, in a holiday resort, where presumably they wouldn’t be massively familiar with any potential body dumping spots, AND THEN get away with it for this long.

But I would love to hear thoughts on how it could be possible.
 
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The part I always found odd is how the McCann’s immediately dismissed the dogs findings.
If my child had gone missing, apparently abducted, and then the cadaver dogs indicated a dead body had been in that same room I would be inconsolable, wondering if they’d been killed in that room. Yet they immediately dismissed it as being wrong. How do they know it was wrong? Why did they never consider it as a possible option? Surely you would consider ALL possible scenarios?
 
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The part I always found odd is how the McCann’s immediately dismissed the dogs findings.
If my child had gone missing, apparently abducted, and then the cadaver dogs indicated a dead body had been in that same room I would be inconsolable, wondering if they’d been killed in that room. Yet they immediately dismissed it as being wrong. How do they know it was wrong? Why did they never consider it as a possible option? Surely you would consider ALL possible scenarios?
Yes, it’s the outright dismissal itself which is curious. And the McCanns were similarly dismissive of the Smith sighting.
The refusal to participate in a re-enactment - again very strange behaviour.

Gerry being unlikeable does not make him guilty of covering up an accidental death. However - the clip of him saying that five or six weeks after Madeleine’s disappearance, they were glad the media attention went quiet so he thought “we’d start to get back to a sort of more normal existence” - not only is that unfathomable to come from the father of a supposedly abducted child, he goes on to say they could then broaden their focus to the wider political issues 🤯



 
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This is where “the McCanns did it” theory loses me, I just can’t fathom how they’d dispose of a body with everything else going on as you said, in a holiday resort, where presumably they wouldn’t be massively familiar with any potential body dumping spots, AND THEN get away with it for this long.

But I would love to hear thoughts on how it could be possible.
One possibility is their connection to Clement Freud. He might have been helpful as a local. But then, were they so familiar with him, to trust him in such an extremely delicate matter, to say the least?

Also, the priest, they confessed to, who later made a remark about what they had told him. There are rumours, her body got cremated in a coffun with another dead person.

But that's all just speculations ofc.

Curious though, what would be your points against my theories.
 
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There was also Gerry’s refusal to comment whether he knew Robert Murat prior to Madeleine’s disappearance



 
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I know im very late to the party but my boyfriend suggested I watch the netflix documentary (I never got round to it at the time) my first thought after watching the first episode was about one of their friends checking in on the children. He stated he only saw the twins and didn't properly check on them. Did he open the window and why? They also left the patio down unlocked which just seems crazy to me. Im unsure if the friend did check on them but even if he did and someone did kidnap her then that's a massive window of opportunity. Ive always been on the fence about it being an accidental overdose or foul play.
 
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Yes, it’s the outright dismissal itself which is curious. And the McCanns were similarly dismissive of the Smith sighting.
The refusal to participate in a re-enactment - again very strange behaviour.

Gerry being unlikeable does not make him guilty of covering up an accidental death. However - the clip of him saying that five or six weeks after Madeleine’s disappearance, they were glad the media attention went quiet so he thought “we’d start to get back to a sort of more normal existence” - not only is that unfathomable to come from the father of a supposedly abducted child, he goes on to say they could then broaden their focus to the wider political issues 🤯



The refusal to take part in the re-enactment may be down to pure embarrassment and shame. It would mean they would have to pretend to have dinner away from their kids while one was being abducted....
 
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The refusal to take part in the re-enactment may be down to pure embarrassment and shame. It would mean they would have to pretend to have dinner away from their kids while one was being abducted....
Possibly although everything else indicates there was zero shame or embarrassment. Quite the opposite if you recall Kate saying - as just two examples - “we felt guilty but only for a few days” and “I know we are very good parents”.

Forget shame or embarrassment - a little humility wouldn’t go astray under the circumstances.

Perhaps one playing devils advocate would then say they were overcompensating. Ok but then you would do the re-enactment (plus other actions that would increase the chances of finding answers).

Whichever way it’s looked at - the McCanns actions and behaviour is tricky at best to square away.
 
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The refusal to take part in the re-enactment may be down to pure embarrassment and shame. It would mean they would have to pretend to have dinner away from their kids while one was being abducted....
Yes, and also any legal advisor would tell the parents not to do a re-enactment - police only ask people they suspect of a crime to do a re-enactment. It's a great way to make yourself look like a guilty criminal, in the same way as attending court in 'on remand' clothing or doing a 'perp walk' into court.

I think the parents careers affected how they behaved following MM's disappearance - from the outset they were very defensive, bullish, they sought to limit reputational damage and they were litigious etc.
They handled it like the two middle-class professionals that they are, not surprising really.
 
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I'm keeping up to date with this stalking case on the BBC. news.

Ive got to say now that I do find it odd that they wouldn't just do a dna test to get this woman off their backs. She doesn't come
Across (from her statements in court) totally crazy like I expected her to.
 
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I don't think it would have been a wise move to indulge in a dangerous fantasist in an attempt to get her off their backs.
 
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