Yeah it is very interesting, especially since it was BNE who was the defence - now we don’t know if he advised JV not to have their pathologist take the stand and it was JV who insisted but again, similar to Letby’s experts, they largely agreed with the prosecution. I also think if I remember correctly, it was only some babies they could offer an alternative for and not all of them which of course is extremely damning for Letby.I know many here are also on the Preston Davey thread. From a legal / justice perspective I’ve found it fascinating seeing what happens when the defence do present a medical expert on the stand.
And the 29 unanimous guilty verdicts in that case shows that it doesn’t mean that even when there is an expert for the defence (who was actually a highly regarded forensic pathologist of 40 years) doesn’t mean their evidence is enough for the jury to think there is reasonable doubt. Clearly with the Preston case, the jury found all the other evidence alongside the medical evidence, far too compelling to think there’s any doubt.
Something the Letbyists don’t see to understand that an alternative medical opinion is not enough to be considered reasonable doubt. It has to be tested in court and weighed up against all evidence as a whole. Letby could present everthing Shoo Lee et al are saying and still be found guilty.
And their evidence isn’t even new anyway.
Not only that but I fear there is a chance their child was harmed by Lucy only for her to play saviour. Though the police ruled this out so maybe I’m being paranoid. I think Lucy had a strong compulsion to appear unflappable and in control and where her skill and intellect let her down she engineered situations where she could appear that way.“We feel the jury wasn’t given the full information about that unit.”
Carl said he and Claire came to that conclusion after watching a documentary about Letby’s case.
“It was obvious from that documentary that the condition and state of that unit wasn’t really a factor in the conviction,” he said.
So they didn’t actually follow the trial then? A ten month trial reduced to a single - biased - 1hr documentary and they concluded the jury weren’t told stuff?
Little to nothing to do with the Letby case.![]()
Final Reports - National Maternity and Neonatal Investigation
About the Investigation. Including links to the Secretary of State’s announcement, Terms of Reference, Methodology, Family engagement strategy.www.matneoinv.org.uk
going to delve into this later today…
Wow why on earth are they even entertaining this?! (I don’t know how these debates get decided). Surely the police conduct in her investigation is only up for debate if a MoJ was ever proven (which it won’t.)David Davis having another debate in the commons this week - 26th March "Conduct of Cheshire Police in the case of Lucy Letby"
it's the last thing before the Easter break so interesting to see how many attend. A feel sorry for the junior minister who is compelled to be there to respond to his BS.
If he's available he can't really turn the job downAnyone brave enough to follow the trial for poor baby Preston currently going on? To my absolute horror our BNE is KC for the defence.
I think it was emails from Steve that he could no longer find in his sent itemsOh wasn’t it suspected emails from IH were going missing, or something? I’m sure we had a discussion about this at the time.
Oh wow. The celebrities have spoken. She must be innocent after all. Free Lucy!You spoke too soon. Apparently has ‘hundreds of messages of support from celebrities’![]()
Good on him.Chief Constable of Cheshire writes to the Speaker of the Commons accusing Sir David Davis of misleading the house
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