Lucy Letby Case #81

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The full transcript of Shoo Lee's evidence to the Court of Appeal has been posted on reddit. Well worth a read the guy comes across as a complete fool.

Yes. Amazingly he hadn't seen any of baby's notes or read any eye witnesses description of the rash, he just insisted that " Lee's sign" seen only twice, was the only rash that counted. He also didn't seem to understand that no one said during the trial that it was diagnostic of an air embolism.
 
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It's incredible how far down the rabbit hole some are prepared to go - Ian Huntley was set up as part of a conspiracy apparently

wtf
He was a self-confessed paedophile, wife beater and rapist with 10 criminal accusations and 5 reports to social services and he admitted Holly and Jessica died in his house (albeit “accidentally”). How can anybody think there is even a thread to be had?!!

I’m all for free speech but I swear these people should not be allowed to post on the f**king internet 😫
 
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wtf
He was a self-confessed paedophile, wife beater and rapist with 10 criminal accusations and 5 reports to social services and he admitted Holly and Jessica died in his house (albeit “accidentally”). How can anybody think there is even a thread to be had?!!

I’m all for free speech but I swear these people should not be allowed to post on the f**king internet 😫
It's always good to challenge popular narratives when 'facts' are released by certain sources wanting to shape opinion but FGS.... I think many people who go down the CT line feel they have to be 'special' in some way and, as others have said, it gives them a sense of power, believing that they possess certain insights when in real life they have little.
 
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More interesting evidence on the Thirwall site today, especially the email from John Gibbs to the consultants.
 
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More interesting evidence on the Thirwall site today, especially the email from John Gibbs to the consultants.
Indeed

I also explained that a problem 'we' have (and I said I thought this applied to all the consultant Paediatricians), was that
we remain somewhat suspicious of Lucy's involvement but we don't know what she did (if anything), nor how she did it
and, obviously, we don't know that she actually did anything untoward. Even so, I made it clear that unlike the
impression given in the full version of the College review that it was only after Steve's first review (at the end of 2015)
happened to highlight an association between Lucy and many of the sudden, unexpected collapses that our suspicions
over Lucy then became aroused, each of us had already started to become worried about this association from our own
personal involvement in various episodes. Initially, we felt Lucy was just unlucky in happening to be involved in more of
these infants than other nurses but this association become steadily more worrying especially with recurrent sudden
collapses at night that stopped when Lucy was moved off nights and then, on one occasion (only that I'm aware of),
when Lucy covered a stable infant during a colleague's coffee break during which that infant unexpectedly collapsed. Ian
again mentioned that Lucy, being a young, single nurse, undertook more sessions than other nurses on the unit and so
would be expected to be associated with more 'events' but I countered that this was true but her involvement still
seemed to be unexpectedly frequent.
I hope that I've made it clear, just in case Ian didn't realise it
already, that we all share the same concerns about the deaths and non-fatal collapses. I suspect I might have made him
feel a little uneasy by mentioning that we all still have suspicions relating to Lucy.
 
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Yes. Amazingly he hadn't seen any of baby's notes or read any eye witnesses description of the rash, he just insisted that " Lee's sign" seen only twice, was the only rash that counted. He also didn't seem to understand that no one said during the trial that it was diagnostic of an air embolism.
Lee is a nincompoop
 
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Urgh there's people at my work who think she is innocent. I actually can't. 🤦‍♀️
I’ve just finished a placement on an NNU and it was mixed feelings but the nurse in charge was all for Letby. My own dad keeps trying to ram it down everyone’s throats she’s innocent because he’s watched the Shoo Lee shitfest. I actually find myself raging when I’m around these people.
 
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That creature will be on legal aid for this so we are all paying one way or another.
This is obscene on every single level.
 
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A lot of the professionals who think Letby is innocent seem to have their own personal axe to grind or be hoping not to be charged with manslaughter.
 
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I’ve just finished a placement on an NNU and it was mixed feelings but the nurse in charge was all for Letby. My own dad keeps trying to ram it down everyone’s throats she’s innocent because he’s watched the Shoo Lee shitfest. I actually find myself raging when I’m around these people.
In many ways nursing as a profession has not come out of this smelling of roses. Eventually the NMC struck her off but there was no comment on the behaviours she showed which have no place in a nurse e.g. the handover sheets hoarded, texting while at work, searching families on social media. One senses a general reluctance to accept what she did and honestly engage with the issues
 
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