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Dolly Daydreaming

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Okay mmbop, I've channelled you whilst writing my update, so here goes 😂. Also, sorry in advance if there's spelling/grammar mistakes, I just wanted to get it all out whilst I remember.

I feel completely drained after today, it’s been an intense day. I was there with our friend who travelled down from Scotland, and we ended up sitting next to a lovely person who used to work with TC, AK, and IH. They had so much to say about the executives, and honestly, none of it was flattering. There were plenty of NHS and healthcare professionals present as well, including some who had worked at COCH during the events in question.

We were sitting quite close to TC, so I had a clear view of him throughout. While we waited for Lady Thirlwall to arrive, I watched him reading through his documents, and it was obvious how nervous he was. His hands were shaking, and the papers trembled in his grip (NGL I reveled in seeing this 😂). During his testimony, the nerves were even more evident: he was sweating profusely and drinking water constantly. Whether it was anxiety or the weight of maintaining his version of events/lies/guilt, it was hard to say.

In some ways, his demeanour reminded me of Dominic West in The Crown, the same way of carrying himself, with an almost performative quality. Early on, KC Poer asked him three separate times whether he would accept personal failure. Each time, instead of answering, he launched into long-winded speeches, full of deflection and generalisations. This was barely 15 minutes into his testimony, and already, he was avoiding responsibility. Most of his responses relied heavily on collective terms like “we,” “the trust,” and “our team,” while he rarely used “I.” It reminded me of Letby’s language, carefully avoiding anything that could pin accountability directly on him. He kept insisting that his actions were correct at the time.

When questioned about why he hadn’t taken the doctors’ concerns seriously, he dismissed it by saying something like, “I can’t just go with a gut feeling.” Later, when safeguarding was brought up, he shifted the blame entirely, asking, “Why didn’t they go to the police?” It was exhausting to listen to, his tone was so obtuse and defensive. He often interrupted the KC Poer with loud, forceful interjections like “AND…” as if trying to dominate the exchange. BNE 2, to his credit, kept control, but clearly looked exasperated by the end. Lady Thirlwall didn’t miss a beat either, stepping in to tell TC off at one point: “Just answer the question" with a stern tone.

At one point, when the bullying allegations came up, I noticed TC clenching his hand into a fist, clearly controlling his anger. It made me think back to Saladi’s evidence, where TC reportedly banged his fist on the table and told consultants they needed to “draw a line under this” (or something to that effect). His anger seemed barely restrained, but it was there, simmering under the surface.

What shocked me the most, though, was his attitude when he started boasting about his successes; completely unprompted and out of context. His face showed unmistakable signs of contempt, and he looked almost proud. It was so inappropriate for the situation, and I felt absolutely disgusted. This was neither the time nor the place for self congratulation 🤬

There was a moment where they discussed his commitment (I think, I didn't take notes so i'm just going from memory), and while his words projected confidence, his body language told a different story. He looked uneasy, as though he didn’t fully believe what he was saying. Ie - for example and words to this effect "Yes, I believe we were all commited to patient safety" but he kept shaking his head, as to say no (incongruence). Like Letby and others, he seemed to have a highly selective memory, conveniently forgetting key details, claiming he hadn’t read reports, or insisting no one had told him. It was an exhausting pattern: deflect, deny, avoid. Rinse and repeat from 10am till just after 6pm.

What struck me most about today was the atmosphere in the courtroom. People who had worked at COCH during that time, or who were familiar with the events, exchanged glances and quietly shook their heads, lots of sighs, etc at some of his responses. You could feel the frustration and disbelief in the air. It wasn’t just his answers, it was the way he carried himself, the interruptions, the deflections, and that misplaced sense of pride. I can't speak for everyone, but the ones I did, it left a bitter taste for us, and a lot of fkn anger.

It’s hard to ignore his over-reliance on “we” and “the trust” rather than “I” highlights how accountability was so often diluted. Decisions were made "collectively", and blame was shared, or avoided altogether. It’s a pattern we’ve seen repeatedly in this inquiry (and LL), and it’s both infuriating and heartbreaking.

By the end of the day, he seemed like a man clinging to his reputation, unwilling or unable to take responsibility for the harm caused under his leadership. It was angering, exhausting and utterly disgusting, and more to come from this scumbag tomorrow! I’ll need to read the transcript to fully process it all but here's what I can remember at the moment x

Ps well done if you've reached this far 😂😘♥
 
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slingo16

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This is clearly an unsafe conviction that needs looking at again. This is a young women’s like we’re talking about.
No amount of feeling sorry for the parents overrules that!
I might be in a minority of one on here, but this is a bit of an echo chamber really.

I, along with a growing number of people, sincerely hope she gets the case reopened, just like many people before her have, who have been wrongly convicted.
I just hope it doesn’t drag on for years!
Nothing more to say on this. Over and out!
🤣 hahahaha, it really amazes me how many people who know absolutely nothing about the case will happily disrespect murdered babies and their families online. Like you’re defending a baby murderer, wtf is wrong with you?
 
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sebanna

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Nipped over to Twitter, the truthers feel the police are possibly bringing more charges to close down the reporting of Lucy's innocence. One feels it was insensitive to question her in the run up to Christmas and the police should have waited until the festivities were over.
 
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IGiveUp22

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Let’s find out which variety of butterfly wanker someone is-
Is it
A) antiestablishment thicko

SewAgE on Hedz
NurSes takE fIngZ home all the tiMe
My Nan had shit care so Letby is innosent
I have a sad pathetic life and this has given me something to do and to belong to

B) faux intellectual oddball

Have you never heard of (insert statistical theory with zero relevance to the case) you simpleton

You haven’t read the actual experts evidence - translates loosely from incel nerd into: I fell for a load of junk science from certified nutjob Sarrita Adams and Loony nurse fapper Gill and have read the New Yorker but followed no evidence from the trial.

C) beige serial baby killers is my type
I have a fetish for big chinned bang average nurses that I think might shag me it I shout on the internet about her
This is the thing, we get called an echo chamber on here because I’d say 99.9% of us think she is guilty and the reason for that is because we sat through every day of the trial. We discussed the evidence at the time, we discussed other possible theories, we reviewed the live reporting, heck some people even went and listened in person.
There was so much evidence, so much information that we all took in and came to the conclusion that she is guilty.

Not one part of any of the bits in these articles or papers or appeals actually offer any doubt when you’ve followed the trial so closely.

I will happily hear someone else’s opinion though and have a discussion about it but if your opinion is based purely on the recent media articles then you genuinely have half an opinion…half is actually generous considering how much of their information is cherry picked too.
 
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oldjamfan

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The beautiful docmum spotted this tee shirt on Saturday’s Kitchen earlier and wanted to share it with all you Twattlers. 😱

She also hopes everyone has a wonderful Christmas. Xx
 

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raspberryjuice

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The transcript for Alison Smelly (yeah I know 🤣) is absolutely toe curling.

Really reminding me of Letby at times!!! Drops herself in it so..then can’t recall!
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Honestly all of this “didn’t read the email” “didn’t open the attachment” “didn’t have time to look at documents” from everyone is sickening. It’s not an email inviting them to a cake sale or bitching that the staff canteen hasn’t been cleaned. They’re emails about (at the time) a potential murderer working in the hospital. Attachments detailing evidence supporting the suspicions around the deaths of tiny babies. Didn’t have time? You make time for that. It should be your absolute priority. You should be sat at your screen waiting for that email to drop so you can go through those attachments asap.

These people deserve to rot alongside LL.
 
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Lucy Letby quizzed over MORE baby murders: “Nurse is interviewed in jail over further fatalities at Countess of Chester site where she killed seven newborns - AND incidents at Liverpool Women's Hospital where she trained”

Cheshire Police said tonight: ‘We can confirm that, following agreement, Lucy Letby has recently been interviewed in prison under caution in relation to the ongoing investigation into baby deaths and non-fatal collapses at the Countess of Chester Hospital and the Liverpool Women’s Hospital. Further updates will follow.’
 
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Tofino

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Momentum building for her case to be re opened. I hope it doesn’t take years like so many other cases!

She isn’t going anywhere sweet cheeks! She will rot in prison, as she deserves.



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Ps ‘Momentum’ doesn’t get people out of jail. Fresh evidence does. Which they have none. Anyone on Team Letby should be embarrassed by what was said today. It’s like they never even read the medical records or court transcripts.

Oh wait…
 
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OoglyBoogly

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I'm a bit behind, but they wanted to put NHS occy health support in... FOR HER MUM? Who isn't employed by the NHS as far as I know.

And that email from Ravi Jayaram made me well up. I'm so glad they didn't give up.
 
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starpaws

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I’m still on Sue Hodkinson. She’s such a whopper.
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No no no no no. Not at all the trust supporting Letby’s mother. How on Earth could anyone jump to that conclusion. Merely that Occupational Health, so NHS resources and staff, were going to liaise with Letby’s mother’s GP. That’s sooo different. Bergerac concerning herself with Letby’s mother’s wellbeing is really really different to OH support being offered.
Unbelievable- imagine Child C’s mother reading that Management were concerned for Letby’s parents, in view that Alison Kelly had ‘no recollection’ of actually meeting her to discuss her dead baby.
 
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