So do Freemasons actually engage in child murder, or support the murderers because they are in da club? 
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So I’ve been trying to do a bit of googling. I believe (someone can correct me) as far as I found there is no direct link.So do Freemasons actually engage in child murder, or support the murderers because they are in da club?
I think it’s more about being in an “elite” club and almost banding together to cover stuff over (I think).
I don’t necessarily think being a Freemason makes you a murderer nor that you’d cover for one, but having said that, it appears in this scenario, it may have played a part in why her dad was involved/talking to executives to try push all this under the carpet
One of my colleagues is a high ranking Freemason. He doesn’t try to hide the fact to be fair to him. They certainly do a lot of charity work but ‘secret clubs’ of mainly grown men? Nah, not for me.
A lot of high ranking cops and members of the judiciary have been Freemasons over the years and the perception - whether fair or not - is of shadiness and favouritism.
A lot of high ranking cops and members of the judiciary have been Freemasons over the years and the perception - whether fair or not - is of shadiness and favouritism.
Maybe Lucy's dad just thought she's innocent so asked for help and the hospital bosses tried to sweep it under the carpet. They tried to protect Lucy and keep her happy without really investigating the allegations.So do Freemasons actually engage in child murder, or support the murderers because they are in da club?
The ones I know I think it’s just an excuse to get out the house away from their wives . It does seem to be middle aged men who want to be part of a club or gang who are involved .
Yeah this was the understanding I gained too. I read a few things about there being a potential link back to the occult but I potentially think this may have been many years ago/possibly fictionalised in like films/tv where there are men only elite clubs - a lot of it is conspiracy theories.
I definitely can imagine a lot of them do take the “brotherhood” angle quite seriously though and probably do cover for each other in various scenarios. Interestingly, true masonhood talks about this but has criminal actively as the line they wouldn’t cross. So even if any of them thought she had done it, if they were “true masons” they shouldn’t have tried to brush it under the carpet.
That leaves me settling with what another poster put, that her dad genuinely believed her innocence and used as much of his mason brotherhood to get anyone connected support that too. Again this is all just my own musing thoughts about this.
I remember it being brought up in the first trial and I didn’t really pay much attention to it if I’m honest
Anyone who doubts her guilt should just look at the number of deaths since 2016. It's an open and shut case. If there was a serial killer on the loose, they wouldn't be able to stop just because Letby "took the fall".
The Catholic Church is very anti Freemasons ( not sure which one is the baddie in that scenario) it is a big sin for a Catholic to be a Freemason because whatever they do is considered heresy I think. The church first denounced them in 1700s or something and most recently again in 2023 apparently. My dad once got invited to be a Freemason and used being a Catholic as his excuse not to join though he probably had not set foot in a church for decades.
@craftypudding thats really interesting. Until I started searching I assumed it was almost like a religion it’s own but I read you could still practice a religion and be a Freemason which from an outsider who isn’t religious nor obv a Freemason I didn’t quite get as it talks about a belief in a supreme being and immortality of the soul…sounds pretty culty to me 
I think this. I think Cross defi cutely tried to head off police investigations and possibly had a lot of influence, and if Letby was a mason too, maybe they just didn't believe she was guilty so tried to sweep it all away. I dunno I've always though masons were a pretty odd bunch. Wasn't Saville a mason?
“at the time” being quite important here I think!!
So that’s “deaths” plural in September after ACDE. Crikey
So that’s “deaths” plural in September after ACDE. Crikey
I don’t think any of them believed she could be harming the babies. And I don’t really blame them for that. But whatever the influences were, whether that be own biases, nurses v doctors culture, Freemasons, Letby’s parents - it seemed to make them lose all sense of professional obligations and personal responsibility for patient safety and safeguarding. And that is completely unacceptable and unforgivable.
This is a non indictment baby which Dr Brearey suspects Lucy killed.
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This is why I think they got the right person and Lucy is guilty.
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What is the general opinion from the truthers about the likes of Ian Harvey, Tony Chambers, Eirian Powell etc. Do they think they are heroes for trying their best to protect Lucy?
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From today
www.bbc.co.uk
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From today
Lucy Letby: Doctors' concerns were 'shut down' - ex-police chief
Former Det Ch Supt Nigel Wenham felt executives were "attempting to shut doors on the investigation".
www.bbc.co.uk
Don't they conveniently fall in and out of existence? It's like a weird type of quantum physics. When they are observed to say nice things about Lucy, they pop into existence. When their efforts to protect her contradict the claim that the hospital conspired to blame Lucy, they are not observed and therefore they do not exist.
I notice that that Chris Williams has put a poll up on X asking who is the creepiest, him or Brearey. Shall we all go and vote in it?
Voted creepy Chris. He is doing well so farI notice that that Chris Williams has put a poll up on X asking who is the creepiest, him or Brearey. Shall we all go and vote in it?
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Whatever possessed him to put that poll up! Have you seen the state of that thread he posted it in, he's a truly despicable man the things he says about the poor parentsVoted creepy Chris. He is doing well so far
He is vile and is saying outrageously offensive comments to get attention. He was hinting at the identity of one of the babies earlier on.
Also what the hell is he going on about here
I have no idea. I think he says that sort of stuff because he has nothing else of any interest to say. To a sad, bitter, lonely p like him, any attention is better than no attention. He's getting worse too, he was bang out of order on that thread tonight, he's one sick duck
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