Lucy Letby Case #76

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It must be a hard job, Ben Myers is literally sticking up for the rum of the earth. Letby the baby killer, Samantha's murderer and the man killed a child in the swimming pool changing rooms.
 
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Book extract in the independent

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Also first 100 pages of the audiobook have been uploaded to YouTube by google books

Interesting. I've worked with lots of people with Borderline Personality Disorder and I don't think it fits with what we know about Letby at all, apart from perhaps using unhealthy methods to gain attention (though murdering and harming babies to get attention is obviously beyond extreme). Will the inquiry consider her mental state like the Shipman inquiry did?
 
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Read the whole book now. Richard Gill will be annoyed he was not mentioned once and the authors don't appear to have offered to interview him.
 
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Read the whole book now. Richard Gill will be annoyed he was not mentioned once and the authors don't appear to have offered to interview him.
I’m about 70% in. I think it’s an excellent book, really well written and researched.
 
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Does it indulge the truther rit at all?
It goes into a lot of detail about their interview with Mike Hall. But he does seem like a sensible person and he has never said he thinks she’s innocent and fully acknowledges that a number of the babies are hard to find an alternative explanation for. I think they’ve explored the concerns of the right people if that makes sense but it’s still clear that expert-wise they are the minority. It has been written very fairly.
 
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It goes into a lot of detail about their interview with Mike Hall. But he does seem like a sensible person and he has never said he thinks she’s innocent and fully acknowledges that a number of the babies are hard to find an alternative explanation for. I think they’ve explored the concerns of the right people if that makes sense but it’s still clear that expert-wise they are the minority. It has been written very fairly.
I find it frustrating how Mike Hall keeps claiming that Letby didn't have a fair trial because he didnt have the opportunity to give evidence, when he admits that he couldn't find alternative explanations for some of the collapses. He must realise that she is charged with 7 murder charges, even if he agreed with the prosecutions case with just 1 of them, that is extremely damning and it would be too risky for the defence to call him up.
 
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I find it frustrating how Mike Hall keeps claiming that Letby didn't have a fair trial because he didnt have the opportunity to give evidence, when he admits that he couldn't find alternative explanations for some of the collapses. He must realise that she is charged with 7 murder charges, even if he agreed with the prosecutions case with just 1 of them, that is extremely damning and it would be too risky for the defence to call him up.
Mike Hall said he found babies O and P's death the hardest to explain.
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Does it indulge the truther rit at all?
It addresses most of the alternative theories and looks at them in details. The book is neutral it doesn't say Lucy is definitely guilty or innocent. It sensibly sums up the evidence which debunks the majority of the NG's theories. Concluding that while some people maybe concerned she not guilty It's far from clear that she's actually innocent.
 
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I find it frustrating how Mike Hall keeps claiming that Letby didn't have a fair trial because he didnt have the opportunity to give evidence, when he admits that he couldn't find alternative explanations for some of the collapses. He must realise that she is charged with 7 murder charges, even if he agreed with the prosecutions case with just 1 of them, that is extremely damning and it would be too risky for the defence to call him up.
I'm not sure of the law here and whether the defence could have called him to give evidence solely on the charges for which he believed the prosecution case was wrong. Or whether having called him he could then be cross-examined more widely for the other charges - and by calling him would that bring all his reports for all the babies into the trial?
 
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I didn’t realise that the unmasking Letby book is available as an audio on Spotify. If you happen to pay the premium ( which I do for work purposes) it’s included. Just started listening while trying to get some housework done 😅
 
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Oh wow what a great find!! We get to see Myers and BNE in action!!!
Myers looks NOTHING like i thought he would even though I've seen pictures of him. He doesn't look at all convinced by what he's saying!
 
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Myers looks NOTHING like i thought he would even though I've seen pictures of him. He doesn't look at all convinced by what he's saying!
I agree. I thought they both looked pretty done with the whole thing tbh, like they’re just going through the motions.
 
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Myers is very scathing of Dr J here!!!
(Video should start in the right place)


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Myers looks NOTHING like i thought he would even though I've seen pictures of him. He doesn't look at all convinced by what he's saying!
BNE does not come across anything like I imagined!! I only really saw Myers when I went to the trial as he was doing all the questioning of Letby.
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BNE starts here for anyone interested

 
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OMG this bit is hilarious - you have to watch!! BNE pausing after the Beige home headline and then asking what’s worse, being referred to as a serial killer of babies which had been proved, “or being called beige” 😂😂 honestly don’t know how the court didn’t burst out laughing but maybe it’s a tattle thing. He’s so deadpan when he says it 😂


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No wonder the trial took ten months with all of BNE’s long pauses for dramatic effect 😂
 
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